Wortox KNABSACK more range

[SebsiaX]

I saw post where someone had good idea with increased range for knabsack. Also giving wortox new instrument would be cool pls klei add new instrument 

[Echsrick]

still wish knapsack was never designed to be a weapon in the first place

[Master_NiX]

I feel like "Whip" like range could work, or at very least a bit shorter.

[Ugur01]

The post you see could be mine, I suggested that. Link

On 2/7/2025 at 9:50 PM, Ugur01 said:

Looking at its design, it seems like it has more range than a normal weapon. Maybe giving it a range of 1.5 would make it compete with the darksword.

Alternative idea - The weapon now has 4 storage slots and can be repaired with souls or silk. A soul jar can be placed in this storage slot. Its damage increases for each full soul jar placed. We can save space in the inventory by placing soul jars on the weapon.

 

[WilsonHiggs]

10 hours ago, SebsiaX said:

increased range for knabsack

Pls no more whips and range weapons until combat is fixed

10 hours ago, SebsiaX said:

Also giving wortox new instrument would be cool pls klei add new instrument

Pan flute is called like that because is from Pan which is a satyr. It wouldn't make sense for wortox to have another instrument, he has pan flute perks for a reason

[Echsrick]

4 hours ago, WilsonHiggs said:

Pls no more whips and range weapons until combat is fixed

explain how combat is broken?

[Hollow soul 3]

6 minutes ago, Echsrick said:

explain how combat is broken?

The way I see it, the more combat options we have, the better. I would like to see more enemy diversity in the game, I think that opening up more mid to long range options will make it a little easier to add that in.

[Dyzrespect]

I'm not gonna lie, as someone who has played a lot of Wanda, whip range is really overpowered. You become immune to shadow creatures (just hold F), you can kite everything 50x easier, even Klaus (he doesn't even cast spells), and a whole mountain of cheese opens up by hitting things over walls/statues.

I'm not one to gatekeep mechanics, but I honestly think whip range should've been kept to the Cat o' Three Tails and Bull Kelp Stalks.

[Echsrick]

6 minutes ago, Dyzrespect said:

but I honestly think whip range should've been kept to the Cat o' Three Tails and Bull Kelp Stalks.

the things no one actualy uses

[Dyzrespect]

5 minutes ago, Echsrick said:

the things no one actualy uses

y..yes... exactly my point..

[Echsrick]

1 minute ago, Dyzrespect said:

y..yes... exactly my point..

so whip range is only good if no one uses it...makes perfect sense

[Dyzrespect]

1 minute ago, Echsrick said:

so whip range is only good if no one uses it...makes perfect sense

I mean feel free to re-read my original post for the reasoning, and refute them if you like.

[Echsrick]

6 minutes ago, Dyzrespect said:

I mean feel free to re-read my original post for the reasoning, and refute them if you like.

not every boss has to be dark souls level or what ever it is this time super complex, if you dont like to use certain tools then so be it

[Dyzrespect]

18 minutes ago, Echsrick said:

not every boss has to be dark souls level or what ever it is this time super complex, if you dont like to use certain tools then so be it

What?

If everyone commonly had a longer range melee weapon, they'd have to redesign shadow creatures, fix cheese for a ton of bosses, and generally rebalance the whole game. That's it, that's all I'm saying.

Walter is already stressing the boundaries of the limits of the design of current enemies.

[Hollow soul 3]

 

57 minutes ago, Echsrick said:

the things no one actualy uses

I think he's just saying range makes a lot of the combat unfun because of how safe it is. The kelp and tails make up for it a bit by giving enemies a chance to catch up to you.

[Jakepeng99]

If you mean increasee range attack, it isnt a good idea.

[Peasant]

Wantox with alarm sack

[Ugur01]

In my own post I suggested giving it a range between a normal weapon (1 range) and a whip (2 range) 1.5 range

If it has a range like Wanda's weapon, it could be overpowered, so something in between could be given.

 

[ApoIIo]

19 hours ago, Echsrick said:

not every boss has to be dark souls level or what ever it is this time super complex, if you dont like to use certain tools then so be it

No no they have a point, it trivializes things so much it makes them boring. And even in public servers I had bosses devolve to "let wanda do wanda things" e.g. she can *still* cheese klaus if no one else attacks him.