And It repeats.

[DVGMedia]

There was a situation before 2 years back klei was restructuring alot of things to try and optimize Don't starve togethers network.
Them doing this broke alot of mechanical things that existed in the game. And alot of people felt like the game felt worse because of it
Please for those people coming in new I know you are heated but learn from our past interactions.
So that way hate is not repeated.

I sacrificed myself to be a rage bait so that way that the concern could be heard and since then Ive learned to try and not make rage posts because it really doesn't do much and it removes the ability to have proper constructive critisim on works..However now adays it feels like this cycle has repeated with the discourse that has occurred.
And so i really wanted to bring this back so that way people can come back down to earth.

Spoilered is a post from that time That I feel really speaks volumes again to this situation for those that are angry and for those calling for peace.
 

Spoiler

What one should be doing to get their voices heard to the developer team at all, especially in situations where the developer team seems to be content with the end results while a part of the community thinks that there is a game-breaking issue or an intended/unintended design that raises concerns where a certain aspect of the game is headed towards. 

The OP did get their answers in the end, and ironically we can see how this happened. No one expects a full transparency from Klei's side, but had the community have gotten an answer sooner, even a small one, I doubt this whole conversation would start in the first place. The core issue here is that a certain part of the community feels like their ideas don't matter at all, and to be honest I can relate to this. Even when we make a suggestion or post a bug report in the most civilised manners, the default result is either getting completely ignored (not even getting a "known issue" tag for example), or getting made fun of or sometimes even getting flamed by other forum users. When the staff stays silent in these scenarios, how is it even possible for the side with the "controversial" arguments to even get their voices heard, or to prove that their arguments are not controversial in the first place?

The playerbase needs the feedback from the developer's to make their suggestions, and I don't think pointing out every aspect that we think is relevant is going to create the environment for a constructive discussion, exactly because of the situation I explained earlier. However, since we are going over to the forums to give our feedback and we keep on doing this despite the negativity and/or the indifference, I think it should be clear that we are doing this because we care about how the game developes, and seeing just a small amount of support from the staff for "controversial" people like us would not only help a lot in building a healthy environment for constructive discussions, but would also help us feel to be a part of a larger community.

I hope I was clear enough in voicing my concerns here, and hope for any kind of feedback because I'm starting to feel like joining the forums and expecting to get heard by the staff was a big mistake on my part

 

 

[Yaorin yon]

Thank you for your suggestions and thoughts.

I also want to share my own feelings. From the very first day I came here, I posted and expressed my long-accumulated ideas with a serious and responsible attitude.

However, the result at that time was a coldness that reached freezing point. To exaggerate a bit, there wasn't even a single mocker. I was bewildered, and I hopefully thought, “Maybe my ideas are too mediocre, so I didn't get any response.”

But when I carefully read some other people's ideas, I felt a great sense of disparity and incomprehension. And when the developers adopted that part and announced some information that clearly contradicts the game content, I couldn't help but feel furious.

No one starts out intending to post rudely. It only happens when civility and politeness don't work, and even worse, when polite opinions are accused of being “greedy,” “ungrateful,” or “lies” by the real troublemakers.

I couldn't do it anymore; I couldn't treat the other party as someone with whom I could communicate peacefully.

 

From “posting with high hopes to make this game better and better” to now “not regretting my former indifference,” this is my entire journey of thoughts.

During this time, I have also constantly reflected on myself, questioning, “Is what I’m doing really appropriate?” “Am I overestimating the situation?” “Am I being too extreme?” Meanwhile, the development team and its supporters have proven to me, through their actions, that “There is no better way, unless I want to see my efforts continue to turn into endless disappointment and come back to me.” The development team has never used even a single piece of their work to make me feel that I should apologize.

 

This is not my first time here, and it might be my last.

 

Once again, thank you for your suggestions. They may not be able to completely change my mind, but I will certainly give them more thought.

[Steorra]

I personally guess this thread would be moderated later since it's "off topic".

I just understand something, the players who already paid could be "ignore-able" by economy aspect. Yes it may cause potential income decreasing in future, but what if the game is already been "cutted off"? Nobody would care about its' future then.

2 hours ago, DVGMedia said:

or getting made fun of or sometimes even getting flamed by other forum users. When the staff stays silent in these scenarios, how is it even possible for the side with the "controversial" arguments to even get their voices heard, or to prove that their arguments are not controversial in the first place?

Just for highlighting it. "Someone are innocent."

[Peasant]

I remeber people already said similar things several months ago multiple times?

[Hollow soul 3]

15 minutes ago, Steorra said:

I personally guess this thread would be moderated later since it's "off topic".

I just understand something, the players who already paid could be "ignore-able" by economy aspect. Yes it may cause potential income decreasing in future, but what if the game is already been "cutted off"? Nobody would care about its' future then.

That's not really how it works with video games. Really not how Klei operates at all. I don't love all their creative decisions, but their continued support on a game this old is outstanding. The real money in games is micro transactions. You can certainly spend some money on cosmetics, but the daily and weekly freebies are pretty awesome. The BOGO is so wholesome too.