Echsrick Posted February 11, 2025 Share Posted February 11, 2025 new nice/naughty idle animation, its a cool little thing but in the end not anything mechanicaly neutral skills workin for the locks....its....a niche i would say, a small one and thats everything that happend with wortox as far i can remember.....so ahm....not alot or realy meaningfull and still alot of feedback that been givin still not addressed at all, like the knapsack ugh the knapsack...its bad so so bad Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163993-total-changes-that-happend-to-wortox-skill-tree/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingle Posted February 11, 2025 Share Posted February 11, 2025 The alignment/inclination change was big! I want to point that one out. That was really good. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163993-total-changes-that-happend-to-wortox-skill-tree/#findComment-1796315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y0sH Posted February 11, 2025 Share Posted February 11, 2025 You probably don't remember because it hasn't been anything in months unfortunately. However, to add to what you have they took away Planar from the Knabsack, they re-nerfed self naughty Inclination (only lasted a week), gave us the ability to jump with heavy stuff and welp... Since November that's been about it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163993-total-changes-that-happend-to-wortox-skill-tree/#findComment-1796321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SebsiaX Posted February 11, 2025 Share Posted February 11, 2025 8 minutes ago, Echsrick said: new nice/naughty idle animation, its a cool little thing but in the end not anything mechanicaly neutral skills workin for the locks....its....a niche i would say, a small one and thats everything that happend with wortox as far i can remember.....so ahm....not alot or realy meaningfull and still alot of feedback that been givin still not addressed at all, like the knapsack ugh the knapsack...its bad so so bad I realy like the concept of naughty nice side but his skill tree is just bad for me it doesnt give anything creative. And yea every wortox post is ignored. I realy want rework of his skill tree beacuse right now thats preety underwhelming that character who have realy creative mechanics have so boring and bad skill tree Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163993-total-changes-that-happend-to-wortox-skill-tree/#findComment-1796323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted February 11, 2025 Author Share Posted February 11, 2025 oh yea i forgot some things said above, but alsol...nice animation not even workin because of the tail....wich....is not good if the new idle cant even work because of a short tail Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163993-total-changes-that-happend-to-wortox-skill-tree/#findComment-1796329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y0sH Posted February 11, 2025 Share Posted February 11, 2025 I think the Skilltree being designed well was confused as it being completed early on. The look of the Skilltree and the Inclinations ARE great but that doesn't take away from the amount of filler "nothing" skills the tree has. Then the Devs are like super focused on a Bugnet Knabsack when no one really cared about that. That suggestion was just things being throwed out to give the Knabsack something to make it better not a definitive need by the community. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163993-total-changes-that-happend-to-wortox-skill-tree/#findComment-1796330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingle Posted February 11, 2025 Share Posted February 11, 2025 37 minutes ago, Y0sH said: You probably don't remember because it hasn't been anything in months unfortunately. However, to add to what you have they took away Planar from the Knabsack, they re-nerfed self naughty Inclination (only lasted a week), gave us the ability to jump with heavy stuff and welp... Since November that's been about it. The heavy item teleport was great, too! Though I think it was mostly done so they didn't have to support soul hopping on a beefalo. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163993-total-changes-that-happend-to-wortox-skill-tree/#findComment-1796342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty_cookie Posted February 11, 2025 Share Posted February 11, 2025 27 minutes ago, Echsrick said: oh yea i forgot some things said above, but alsol...nice animation not even workin because of the tail....wich....is not good if the new idle cant even work because of a short tail Despite it being completely irrelevant to gameplay it just shows that klei have higher priorities that making wortox idles work with all the skins he has. And their overall care for wortox related things. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163993-total-changes-that-happend-to-wortox-skill-tree/#findComment-1796344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SebsiaX Posted February 11, 2025 Share Posted February 11, 2025 Just now, salty_cookie said: Despite it being completely irrelevant to gameplay it just shows that klei have higher priorities that making wortox idles work with all the skins he has. And their overall care for wortox related things. I agree klei dont even slightly care about wortox and his players Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163993-total-changes-that-happend-to-wortox-skill-tree/#findComment-1796345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty_cookie Posted February 11, 2025 Share Posted February 11, 2025 2 minutes ago, SebsiaX said: I agree klei dont even slightly care about wortox and his players I wouldnt go that far yet. We need to give klei a chance at least. If they dont do anything. I will atleast know to not have high hopes for klei products. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163993-total-changes-that-happend-to-wortox-skill-tree/#findComment-1796347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SebsiaX Posted February 11, 2025 Share Posted February 11, 2025 6 minutes ago, salty_cookie said: I wouldnt go that far yet. We need to give klei a chance at least. If they dont do anything. I will atleast know to not have high hopes for klei products. ok lets wait Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163993-total-changes-that-happend-to-wortox-skill-tree/#findComment-1796352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollow soul 3 Posted February 11, 2025 Share Posted February 11, 2025 We also have confirmation that control changes are on the way. I've said it before, but it's pretty obvious his team was absorbed into Wendy's tree. Just now, SebsiaX said: ok lets wait Bad strat, call out garbage. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163993-total-changes-that-happend-to-wortox-skill-tree/#findComment-1796354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVGMedia Posted February 11, 2025 Share Posted February 11, 2025 reduced the amount of required soul jars for knabsack as well as providing some new skills Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163993-total-changes-that-happend-to-wortox-skill-tree/#findComment-1796355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidankocherhans Posted February 11, 2025 Share Posted February 11, 2025 Wortox's tree was by far the most complete and well received at the start of the beta, so comparing the total number of changes is kinda meaningless 17 minutes ago, SebsiaX said: I agree klei dont even slightly care about wortox and his players Creating the most high concept skill tree means they don't care? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163993-total-changes-that-happend-to-wortox-skill-tree/#findComment-1796356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul7k Posted February 11, 2025 Share Posted February 11, 2025 14 minutes ago, aidankocherhans said: Wortox's tree was by far the most complete and well received at the start of the beta, so comparing the total number of changes is kinda meaningless Creating the most high concept skill tree means they don't care? I don't appreciate being gaslit when there are dozens upon dozens of Wortox threads as well as a megathred that had all of them linked in it that got deleted. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163993-total-changes-that-happend-to-wortox-skill-tree/#findComment-1796362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollow soul 3 Posted February 11, 2025 Share Posted February 11, 2025 10 minutes ago, aidankocherhans said: Wortox's tree was by far the most complete and well received at the start of the beta, so comparing the total number of changes is kinda meaningless Creating the most high concept skill tree means they don't care? I mean not really. The scales are an interesting idea, but until they made changes for the inclination it was poorly implemented. Even with that in mind, it's not free. If you want to avoid the nerf, you have to hold yourself back. The number of viable builds are directly impacted by this, making it the most limiting skill tree released to date . Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163993-total-changes-that-happend-to-wortox-skill-tree/#findComment-1796364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingle Posted February 11, 2025 Share Posted February 11, 2025 16 minutes ago, aidankocherhans said: Wortox's tree was by far the most complete and well received at the start of the beta, so comparing the total number of changes is kinda meaningless Creating the most high concept skill tree means they don't care? Still a lie, that keeps getting repeated. The Naughty section, and Neutral, were completely screwed up at start of beta. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163993-total-changes-that-happend-to-wortox-skill-tree/#findComment-1796365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted February 11, 2025 Author Share Posted February 11, 2025 17 minutes ago, aidankocherhans said: Wortox's tree was by far the most complete and well received at the start of the beta, so comparing the total number of changes is kinda meaningless Creating the most high concept skill tree means they don't care? at the start sure...but now time passes it very well is not like at all, alsol i never compared it to anyone else CONCEPT big word, its a concept, wich means its not real, and yes, again nothing big of what many have said before has been acknowleged Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163993-total-changes-that-happend-to-wortox-skill-tree/#findComment-1796366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidankocherhans Posted February 11, 2025 Share Posted February 11, 2025 3 hours ago, Soul7k said: I don't appreciate being gaslit when there are dozens upon dozens of Wortox threads as well as a megathred that had all of them linked in it that got deleted. 3 hours ago, Hollow soul 3 said: I mean not really. The scales are an interesting idea, but until they made changes for the inclination it was poorly implemented. Even with that in mind, it's not free. If you want to avoid the nerf, you have to hold yourself back. The number of viable builds are directly impacted by this, making it the most limiting skill tree released to date . 3 hours ago, Dingle said: Still a lie, that keeps getting repeated. The Naughty section, and Neutral, were completely screwed up at start of beta. What about my comment was inaccurate? I didn't say the tree was complete and perfect, I said it was more complete than the others, which is obviously true based on the lack of brand new skills introduced later. I was there at the start of the beta, the feelings on the tree were generally positive. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163993-total-changes-that-happend-to-wortox-skill-tree/#findComment-1796451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingle Posted February 11, 2025 Share Posted February 11, 2025 1 minute ago, aidankocherhans said: What about my comment was inaccurate? I didn't say the tree was complete and perfect, I said it was more complete than the others, which is obviously true based on the lack of brand new skills introduced later. I was there at the start of the beta, the feelings on the tree were generally positive. I don't get the "obviously true because they didn't add anything" part. If Walter never got his scouting tree, and was still stuck with the Woby badges and mostly slingshot skill tree, would you be saying the same thing? By the same logic, is the Wendy skill tree completely perfect, because they even removed skills? I don't remember people being generally positive on: Requiring 5 100% filled soul jars for the knabsack to do max damage. The Neutral talents all being worthless. Pierce and Decoy doing tiny bits damage unless you had 5 100% filled soul jars. Overflowing greed giving +2 soul cap per jar. There's more I'm forgetting, I think. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/163993-total-changes-that-happend-to-wortox-skill-tree/#findComment-1796454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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