Lets talk about cloudy Carmen wortox skill

[SebsiaX]

Did u guys know a situation where u can use it? Or its just another bad filler skill

[aidancode]

It's kind of a filler skill. It's not a weak effect for niche situations. It just means you don't have to spam flute as much sometimes. Due to pan flutes being a somewhat rare resource I don't particularly care for it but it's not that it needs to be removed. Wortox is just really lacking on mini skills. His skills are way too focused into the trees.

[Dingle]

It's not filler, it's way worse.

"Filler" is supposed to be at the bottom of a skill tree, so you have to pick it to get to the top. This is one of the two top perks of the Neutral section.

[aidancode]

Just now, Dingle said:

It's not filler, it's way worse.

"Filler" is supposed to be at the bottom of a skill tree, so you have to pick it to get to the top. This is one of the two top perks of the Neutral section.

No, this is better. I don't want to be forced to pick bad skills. It's just an excuse to not make genuinely interesting smaller perks. Cloudy Carmen is underwhelming but so is the grass suit. But I'm sure you agree it's better that the grass suit isn't required for the log suit.

[Soul7k]

Maybe if the effect didn't only work on Wortox and worked in multiplayer it might have some use case against swarms, but like aidancode said pan flutes are kind of rare. I kind of wish he could craft his own unique one. Maybe with a smaller raidus or tanked his sanity/ used some souls idk.

[SebsiaX]

9 minutes ago, Soul7k said:

Maybe if the effect didn't only work on Wortox and worked in multiplayer it might have some use case against swarms, but like aidancode said pan flutes are kind of rare. I kind of wish he could craft his own unique one. Maybe with a smaller raidus or tanked his sanity/ used some souls idk.

New exclusice music Item would be cool but klei dont mind about wortox and his players...

[Dingle]

58 minutes ago, aidancode said:

No, this is better. I don't want to be forced to pick bad skills. It's just an excuse to not make genuinely interesting smaller perks. Cloudy Carmen is underwhelming but so is the grass suit. But I'm sure you agree it's better that the grass suit isn't required for the log suit.

An empty slot would be better.

Or how about: any different perk would be better.

[Hollow soul 3]

They talked about it being synergistic with the change to his neutral. Really a wasted spot

[aidancode]

1 hour ago, Dingle said:

An empty slot would be better.

Or how about: any different perk would be better.

more skills > replaced skills. If they want to make better skills they can add them separately imo

[ApoIIo]

3 hours ago, SebsiaX said:

Did u guys know a situation where u can use it? Or its just another bad filler skill

You can spam it to cheese any sleepable boss. AG takes around nine uses. Not a good strat by all means but still hilarious.

2 hours ago, Dingle said:

An empty slot would be better.

Or how about: any different perk would be better.

It's undertuned, but really not THAT bad.

[Dingle]

2 hours ago, ApoIIo said:

You can spam it to cheese any sleepable boss. AG takes around nine uses. Not a good strat by all means but still hilarious.

It's undertuned, but really not THAT bad.

I do have to admit that "joke perk you can waste a point on for amusement" is better than "empty slot that does nothing".

I'd rather have had something better than those two options, though. Oh well. Maybe they'll make it work in multiplayer, if the devs are stuck with it, like we are.