Numerical Issue of Cursed Vexation

[Yifei_]

Cursed Vexation increases Wendy's physical damage multiplier from 0.75 to 0.75 * 1.3 * 1.6 = 1.56. Without Cursed Vexation, the physical damage multiplier is 0.75 * 1.1 * 1.4 = 1.16. It seems to have no effect on planar damage.

The 1.56 multiplier causes Dark Sword's damage to exceed 100, reaching 106. Does this value seem a bit too outrageous?

This potion becomes easy to mass-produce after the Rift, but it’s difficult to make before the Rift (especially on multiplayer servers). Its intended use seems to be against enemies with Planar Entity Defense after the Rift. However, it provides an extremely high boost to physical damage but no boost to planar damage. Planar Entity Defense means the potion's benefit against post-Rift bosses is rather limited, while it provides an excessively strong boost against pre-Rift bosses.

I think adjusting the physical damage multiplier to 0.75 * 1.2 * 1.5 = 1.35 might be more appropriate, and adding a boost to Wendy's planar damage could be considered. For example, when Wendy uses a melee weapon with planar damage, increase her planar damage by 5 or 10 points (the exact value is open to discussion).

 

暗影易伤药剂能够将温蒂的物理伤害倍率从0.75提升至0.75 * 1.3 * 1.6 = 1.56。而没有暗影易伤药剂时，物理伤害倍率为0.75 * 1.1 * 1.4 = 1.16。它似乎对位面伤害没有影响。

1.56的倍率使得影刀的伤害突破了100，达到了106，这个数值是否有点过高？

该药剂在裂隙后容易量产，而在裂隙前很难制作（尤其是在多人服务器中）。它的定位应当是针对裂隙后具有位面实体抵抗的敌人。然而，它对物理伤害的提升极为强大，但对位面伤害没有提升。位面实体抵抗意味着这个药剂在面对裂隙后的boss时提升较为有限，而对裂隙前的boss提升则过于强大。

我认为将物理伤害倍率调整为0.75 * 1.2 * 1.5 = 1.35可能会更加合适，并且可以增加对温蒂位面伤害的提升。例如，当温蒂使用带有位面伤害的近战武器时，增加她的位面伤害5点或10点（具体数值可以进一步商榷）。

 

[DaDa_waw]

It is indeed necessary to make improvements to the environment it should face when acquiring time, just like the design of the W.A.R.B.I.S. Head Gear, which is very unsatisfactory. Its function is to face the "past" rather than the "present"“

[Dingle]

17 minutes ago, Yifei_ said:

Cursed Vexation increases Wendy's physical damage multiplier from 0.75 to 0.75 * 1.3 * 1.6 = 1.56. Without Cursed Vexation, the physical damage multiplier is 0.75 * 1.1 * 1.4 = 1.16. It seems to have no effect on planar damage.

The 1.56 multiplier causes Dark Sword's damage to exceed 100, reaching 106. Does this value seem a bit too outrageous?

This potion becomes easy to mass-produce after the Rift, but it’s difficult to make before the Rift (especially on multiplayer servers). Its intended use seems to be against enemies with Planar Entity Defense after the Rift. However, it provides an extremely high boost to physical damage but no boost to planar damage. Planar Entity Defense means the potion's benefit against post-Rift bosses is rather limited, while it provides an excessively strong boost against pre-Rift bosses.

I think adjusting the physical damage multiplier to 0.75 * 1.2 * 1.5 = 1.35 might be more appropriate, and adding a boost to Wendy's planar damage could be considered. For example, when Wendy uses a melee weapon with planar damage, increase her planar damage by 5 or 10 points (the exact value is open to discussion).

 

暗影易伤药剂能够将温蒂的物理伤害倍率从0.75提升至0.75 * 1.3 * 1.6 = 1.56。而没有暗影易伤药剂时，物理伤害倍率为0.75 * 1.1 * 1.4 = 1.16。它似乎对位面伤害没有影响。

1.56的倍率使得影刀的伤害突破了100，达到了106，这个数值是否有点过高？

该药剂在裂隙后容易量产，而在裂隙前很难制作（尤其是在多人服务器中）。它的定位应当是针对裂隙后具有位面实体抵抗的敌人。然而，它对物理伤害的提升极为强大，但对位面伤害没有提升。位面实体抵抗意味着这个药剂在面对裂隙后的boss时提升较为有限，而对裂隙前的boss提升则过于强大。

我认为将物理伤害倍率调整为0.75 * 1.2 * 1.5 = 1.35可能会更加合适，并且可以增加对温蒂位面伤害的提升。例如，当温蒂使用带有位面伤害的近战武器时，增加她的位面伤害5点或10点（具体数值可以进一步商榷）。

 

For possessed varg above, what are the numbers with brightshade helm on?

The absurd numbers really explain for me why I killed fuelweaver so easy haha.

[Yifei_]

4 minutes ago, Dingle said:

For possessed varg above, what are the numbers with brightshade helm on?

63 (without Abigail), 73 (with Abigail, no potion), 81 (with Abigail, cursed vexation).
This potion increases 8 points of damage.

[Steorra]

Glad to see more people awared this issue. Yes the Cursed Vex has a weird design which is it seems like a post-rift item but only work effective for pre-rift. It should not be a thing like this.

Shadow Sisterhood III has already been fixed for same issue, it got planar damage buff in last patch. I think Shadow Sisterhood II should get similar fix to ensure its effect in endgame.

[SilverSpoon]

+20% damage boost is definitely too high. It feels like it was tweaked based on Abigail's performance when she was too vulnerable.

[Steorra]

15 minutes ago, Dingle said:

For possessed varg above, what are the numbers with brightshade helm on?

The absurd numbers really explain for me why I killed fuelweaver so easy haha.

AFW was never a tough problem for Wendy tbh. And this is another side of how Wendy's tree broken from the beginning to now - Her tree always helps a lot on what she already good at, like Cursed Vex for pre-rift (Wendy was already strong for pre-rift without tree), like Bigspook for Bee Queen (or AFW, Dragonfly, whatever. Wendy was already easy mod for these boss without tree).

But Wendy's tree always lack of helps to what hard for Wendy (this was be better due to the Blessed Sisturn III from latest patch but unfortunately, the Sisturn III become debatable) and always lack of potential playstyles which means lack of fun.

[Yifei_]

Damage test of beefalo:

Ornery + War Saddle, Tree Guard
66 (Without Abigail), 101 (With Abigail), 137 (With Abigail and Cursed Vexation)

Ornery + Nightmare Saddle, Possessed Varg
55 (Without Abigail), 68 (With Abigail), 79 (With Abigail and Cursed Vexation)

[Yifei_]

Problem of Cursed Vexation is still not solved. The numerical value is crazy.

[Yifei_]

No one wants Wendy to become a character with crazy numerical values like Wolfgang. I hope someone can take this issue seriously.

[Catapult 2.0]

Wendy's physical vulnerability is reduced by layers of dimensional resistance and dimensional weapons, and less than 20% is left, and the original combat logic of 1+1=3 of sister co-operation has not improved after opening the rift.

Wendy的物理易伤在位面抵抗和位面武器的层层削减下，只剩下不到20%，原本的姐妹协同作战1+1=3的战斗逻辑在开启裂隙后被摧毁的情况依旧没有改善。