Wilson's skill tree concept (V3).

[Anis5240]

1 minute ago, AriaMain said:

I'm talking about the 1 meat to 2 morsel transmute, allowing you to effectively cook more pierogis, converting 3 meats to 6 morsels nets you enough to cook two pierogis instead of one, granted you have the vegetable

Well that's a food thing. What the medical tree encompasses is for healing/medical items - healing salve, honey poultice, tillweed salve, etc. Just because food can heal doesn't mean other means of healing should be shunned.

[AriaMain]

35 minutes ago, Anis5240 said:

Well that's a food thing. What the medical tree encompasses is for healing/medical items - healing salve, honey poultice, tillweed salve, etc. Just because food can heal doesn't mean other means of healing should be shunned.

I agree with that! What i'm trying to tell you is that the medical skills you suggested should be stronger, so there's incentive to use said others healing method because currently most players would just stick with the Pierogis spam that is still undeniable the better healing option

[Anis5240]

3 minutes ago, AriaMain said:

the medical skills you suggested should be stronger, so there's incentive to use said others healing method

Look, I know you meant well, but I'm basing this whole skill tree on what he had achieved - one that doesn't stray far from what his whole character had. Yes, I like the concept of Wilson being a full accomplished doctor and such but remember, he hadn't finished his studies. So him getting some medical-based skills that are just a bit better compared to everyone else already suits me just fine.

And it's not like I hadn't put such things in said tree. The slot 4 for the medical tree already allows him to not lose HP when crafting items like meat effigy and telltale heart. Of course, this is just a concept and that's alright by me.

[AriaMain]

2 hours ago, Anis5240 said:

Look, I know you meant well, but I'm basing this whole skill tree on what he had achieved - one that doesn't stray far from what his whole character had. Yes, I like the concept of Wilson being a full accomplished doctor and such but remember, he hadn't finished his studies. So him getting some medical-based skills that are just a bit better compared to everyone else already suits me just fine.

And it's not like I hadn't put such things in said tree. The slot 4 for the medical tree already allows him to not lose HP when crafting items like meat effigy and telltale heart. Of course, this is just a concept and that's alright by me.

i'm not asking to make him a full blown healer though? i like your concepts, i just said they need to be a little bit stronger to warrant someone actually using them.

[Anis5240]

1 hour ago, AriaMain said:

a little bit stronger

Well no one asked for Wigfrid to have resurrection perks for her skill tree yet she had it anyway.

Again, I know you meant well but sometimes people just want simple things. What, you want 50% more healing? 150%? I'm doing lesser values so that players (be it new or old) learn to appreciate the small things. Just look at Wurt's skill tree - it being so full of combat-based skills that people start to dislike how OP she turned to be.

[Dr.Webber]

You should put this in suggestions and feedback

[Anis5240]

5 minutes ago, Dr.Webber said:

You should put this in suggestions and feedback

Already did, man.

[Anis5240]

Changed a bit of the design and some stuff.

[Anis5240]

Some addition to the 'new' torch toss perk: INCREASE the range for the torch to be thrown from 8 wall tiles to at least 16 or 20 wall tiles. Also allows Wilson to throw the torch WITHOUT holding it cuz that one is so stupid.

[Just_fil]

Can you send it via text? I'm a modder, but not a native English speaker, and may be able to implement some of the features you want.

[Anis5240]

1 hour ago, Just_fil said:

Can you send it via text? I'm a modder, but not a native English speaker, and may be able to implement some of the features you want.

Hi!  Yes, sure! I'll be very grateful if you do! 

Light

Tier 1 - Equippable light sources give more light radius and durability by 25%. Torch is now can be refueled via grass or twigs.

Tier 2 - Allows morning star to be refueled via nitre (25% per nitre).
Increase other usable light sources' radius and durability by 50%.

Branch 1 - Torch toss, when thrown will emit a small heat radius and can gradually set fire onto items and mobs. Increase range of torch toss to 20 wall tiles.
Able to cook food using the thrown torch.

Branch 2 - Create endothermic torch. Crafting materials: 2 nitre, 2 grass and 2 twigs. Can set trees on cold fire, turning them into petrified trees. Other burnable items are turned into ash.

 

Beard

Slot 1 - Insulation. (10%, 25%, 50% according to the beard stage.

Slot 2 - Growth. Capped at 2/6/10 days.

Slot 3 - Beard storage. (Works the same as the original perk)

Slot 4 - Beard shield. Your beard will protect you for 5%, 10% and 15% at each beard stage.

Downsides for beard shield - Wilson will lose part of his beard (dropping 1 beard hair) after getting hit for over 100 damage in quick succession each.

 

Heal/Medical

Slot 1 - Restore 25% more health when you apply healing items onto yourself.

Slot 2 - Gains 50% chance for healing items' duplications.

Slot 3 - Have access to Adrenaline shot. Crafting materials -> 1 tillweed, 2 stingers, 2 nitre.

Allows yourself to be jabbed with the shot to gain more speed and slight damage boost (5%) for 4 minutes, at the cost of your hunger and sanity (drains gradually at the rate of -5 sanity and -25 hunger/min).

Slot 4 - Gains the Plague Doctor Mask (Crafting materials -> 2 pig skins, 4 gold, 1 tusk) and Medical Pack (Crafting materials - 2 boards, 1 rope).

Return to your medical roots. Healing crafts that initially can damage your health will no longer affect you, and allows you to distribute your healing perks to other players.

Information about the Plague Doctor Mask: 65% armor protection, 30% wetness protection. Durability: 425.

Bonus perk for Plague Doctor Mask: Allows Wilson to gain 50% more health when applying medical items while wearing it
(stacks with the previous perks - Perk stacks only work onto himself while others will only get 25% more health) and gives miasma protection.

Medical Pack can store 4 medical-based items and stop the spoilage for tillweed salve.

 

Inventor

Slot 1 - Prototypes restore 50% more sanity.

Slot 2 - Tools and weapons created by you lasts 25% longer. (Perks are not distributed to other characters)

Slot 3 -  Able to duplicate a blueprint using 2 papyrus and 1 feather pencil.

Slot 4 - Liquid gold. Crafting items -> 1 red gem, 4 gold, 2 nitre, 1 Empty Flask trinket.

Gains Empty Flask trinket craft - 4 flints.

Can restore disposable items back to one previous stage. Has 5 uses.
Can use the residue (20%) with added ice for a small light source or explosive concoction.

 

Alchemy/Transmutation

Tier 1 - Twig-log-board transmutation. Add 1 board -> 3 logs.

Branch 1 - Gem transmutation.

Slot I - red-blue-purple gem transmutation.
Slot 2 - orange, yellow, green and iridescent gem transmutation.

The amount of the gems needed are the same as in the original skill tree.

Branch 2 - Ore transmutation.

Slot 1 - Common ores' transmutation (flint-rock, nitre-gold, cut stone-marble). Add 2 gears-1 scrap.

Branch 3 - Icky transmutation.

Slot 1 - meat-morsel, lesser glow berry-glow berry, and beefalo wool-beard hair.
3 lesser glow berries-1 glow berry/1 glow berry-2 lesser glow berries.

Slot 2 - bunny puff-fur tuft, mosquito sack-pig skin, hound tooth-bone shard-fossil.

3 beefalo wool-1 bunny puff/1 fur tuft-2 bunny puffs.

4 mosquito sack-1 pig skin.

2 hound teeth-1 bone shard/2 bone shard-1 hound tooth. 8 bone shards-1 fossil piece.

 

Ancients transmutation. (marble-moon rock-moon glass shard, nightmare fuel-pure horror).

2 marbles-1 moon rock.

2 moon rocks-1 glass shard/2 glass shards-1 moon rock.

6 thulecite fragments-1 thulecite.

3 nightmare fuel-1 pure horror/1 pure horror-2 nightmare fuel.

 

Shadow Courtier (Must defeat Ancient Fuelweaver)

Deals 10% more damage to lunar foes and receives 10% less damage from shadow creatures/enemies.

Gains the ability to turn pure horror into dreadstone.
2 pure horror-1 dreadstone/1 dreadstone-2 pure horror

Get a 10% chance to summon a shadowy version of yourself (Shadow Comrade) to help in combat for your brief stint as the Shadow King.

Downside for Shadow Comrade - Only works at 50 sanity and below, lasting until 4 minutes at 0 sanity.
DOES NOT WORK while wearing Nightmare Amulet or Bone Helm.

 

Lunar Innovator (Must defeat Celestial Champion)
Deals 10% more damage to shadow foes and receives 10% damage less from lunar enemies/creatures.

Gains the ability to convert infused glass shard into pure brilliance.
2 infused glass shards-1 pure brilliance/1 pure brilliance-2 infused glass shards.

Learns Explosionator (4 pure brilliance, 4 gunpowder, 2 frazzled wires, 2 ropes, 3 boards). Has 3 uses. Range: 5
Does 250 planar damage per use, and can be combined near each other up to 5 items.

Damage boost from affinity perk doesn't count.
Will cause Antlion-based sinkholes on surface/earthquake in caves.

Downsides - If Wilson doesn't wear protective head gear while using it, he will get groggy and
gradually lose 50 sanity for 4 minutes.

[Just_fil]

This shouldn't be too difficult to implement code-wise, but I'm not skilled in art/animation work（not at all）. I'll try to implement your ideas as a mod, though the visual elements might need some adjustments or a collaborator.

[Anis5240]

10 minutes ago, Just_fil said:

This shouldn't be too difficult to implement code-wise, but I'm not skilled in art/animation work（not at all）. I'll try to implement your ideas as a mod, though the visual elements might need some adjustments or a collaborator.

Thank you so much!!!  If you want, I can draw some of the concept arts for the items.

[Just_fil]

PM me your discord or something

[Anis5240]

Some concept arts for the stuff. @Just_fil @MarcoReverie

[MarcoReverie]

Just some ideas, feel free to use them or not. 

10 hours ago, Anis5240 said:

Some concept arts for the stuff. @Just_fil @MarcoReverie

Regarding shadow and lunar affinity, what do you think about this:

Shadow courtier
Instead of Shadow Comrade.

• Franken Wilson (Homunculus): A reanimated meat effigy ready to fight. Stats: 3600 health, 90 planar damage, 2 speed (similar to a Rock Lobster but you can change it). Recipe: Meat Effigy x1, Telltale Heart x1, Nightmare fuel x7.

Lunar innovator
Instead of explosionator

• Moon blaster (Ghostbuster proton pack): Craft a portable lunar collider to create a moonbeam fired by a particle thrower. Durability of 100% and has 4 uses (fire 1 moonbeam per use), Range 5. Does 250 planar damage per use. Can be reload with Moon Shards. Recipe: Infused Moon Shard x1, Insulated Pack x1, Morning Star x1.

[Anis5240]

2 minutes ago, MarcoReverie said:

Shadow courtier
Instead of Shadow Comrade.

• Franken Wilson (Homunculus): A reanimated meat effigy ready to fight. Stats: 3600 health, 90 planar damage, 2 speed (similar to a Rock Lobster but you can change it). Recipe: Meat Effigy x1, Telltale Heart x1, Nightmare fuel x7.

Not a bad idea to be honest. Maybe the HP is rather too much though, since even Willow's big BERNIE only has 2000 HP. I will only justify the big HP if dreadstone is also added to the mix lol.

That said, the reason why I did the whole Shadow Comrade thing was as a 'reference' to the old Shadow Wilson figure (and his one-time appearance back when DS was still in beta in which he was known as the "Pelontrix") so that's that lmaoooooo.

5 minutes ago, MarcoReverie said:

Moon blaster (Ghostbuster proton pack): Craft a portable lunar collider to create a moonbeam fired by a particle thrower. Durability of 100% and has 4 uses (fire 1 moonbeam per use), Range 5. Does 250 planar damage per use. Can be reload with Moon Shards. Recipe: Infused Moon Shard x1, Insulated Pack x1, Morning Star x1.

So basically the 'ray gun' Scrappy Werepig used? Not sure to be honest. Reload with the infused glass shards seems more suitable though, and letting him to use his lunar transmute skills more often.

[MarcoReverie]

1 hour ago, Anis5240 said:

So basically the 'ray gun' Scrappy Werepig used? Not sure to be honest. Reload with the infused glass shards seems more suitable though, and letting him to use his lunar transmute skills more often.

Haha, I did not figured out. I just thougth because recently I watch a movie of Ghostbuster and I thougth that Wilson would be look cool with that gun. 

1 hour ago, Anis5240 said:

Not a bad idea to be honest. Maybe the HP is rather too much though, since even Willow's big BERNIE only has 2000 HP. I will only justify the big HP if dreadstone is also added to the mix lol.

It is true, HP it is too much. It could be similar to BERNIE, but I'm not sure if that is fair for that level of creation. I just propose Nigthmare fuel for make it accessible for early-mid game, but could be Dreadstone and be boosted (healing) with Pure Horror.

[Anis5240]

12 minutes ago, MarcoReverie said:

I thougth that Wilson would be look cool with that gun. 

lol people been there at least once in their life: imagining their fave characters with cool items 

13 minutes ago, MarcoReverie said:

It could be similar to BERNIE, but I'm not sure if that is fair for that level of creation.

To be honest, I kinda have a mixed feeling on this. Mainly cuz as you said, similar to Willow. The characters in the game have plenty of the same-y skills by now and we want to make something unique for Wilson, right?

I think if we start the golem with the base (crafting materials as you suggested) with maybe perhaps, 1000 HP? Then we can upgrade it via adding dreadstone as the 'armor' or pure horror for extra damage. Maybe by adding 5-10 dreadstone we can have the golem to be at least 2500 HP.

[MarcoReverie]

5 hours ago, Anis5240 said:

lol people been there at least once in their life: imagining their fave characters with cool items 

To be honest, I kinda have a mixed feeling on this. Mainly cuz as you said, similar to Willow. The characters in the game have plenty of the same-y skills by now and we want to make something unique for Wilson, right?

Super yes! The idea is based in the alchemy golem or something like a frankenstein, which are ideas that fit (in my POV) to Wilson. I just used BERNIE as a example for the stats because I'm lack of experience for assign that.

5 hours ago, Anis5240 said:

I think if we start the golem with the base (crafting materials as you suggested) with maybe perhaps, 1000 HP? Then we can upgrade it via adding dreadstone as the 'armor' or pure horror for extra damage. Maybe by adding 5-10 dreadstone we can have the golem to be at least 2500 HP.

5 dreadstone instead the nightmare fuel sounds better for my and justify the high HP. And use Pure Horror to boost or healing the Alchemical Golem. But, I believe you have more experience in balance the stats.

[MarcoReverie]

16 hours ago, Anis5240 said:

Some concept arts for the stuff. @Just_fil @MarcoReverie

There are some usable stuff on Steam for Endothermic torch and in the fandom for plague hat.

Endothermic torch

Endothermic torch gold version

Plague Mask

Willrick the plague doctor

[Anis5240]

53 minutes ago, MarcoReverie said:

There are some usable stuff on Steam for Endothermic torch and in the fandom for plague hat.

Endothermic torch

Endothermic torch gold version

Plague Mask

Willrick the plague doctor

very cool but to be honest resorting to mods for even the smallest things is just I don't know man, kinda sad.

[MarcoReverie]

8 minutes ago, Anis5240 said:

very cool but to be honest resorting to mods for even the smallest things is just I don't know man, kinda sad.

Wilson deserves an all better well-design skill tree able for all his fans

[Anis5240]

How would you think on this 'simplified' version of the skill tree concept?

Basically:

Light - Either remove endothermic torch or torch toss.

Medical - Combine the Adrenaline Shot, Plague Doctor Mask and Medical Pack as one skill.

Alchemy - No changes but require the Mad Scientist Lab for better efficiency. (For example, Wilson will use the regular transmute exchange rate but if he did it at the Mad Scientist Lab station, he will only need ⅔ of the items needed.)

Beard - Adding the Beard Whip (Tail o' Three Cats + 4 beard hairs). Damage: 51. Uses: 100. Increase the percentage of mobs panicking OR change the state of rabbits/pigs/bunnymen.

Affinity - 1st slot is for Ancients' transmutations. (No changes.)

Shadow (left-side)

Tier 1 - The pure horror-dreadstone transmute.

Tier 2 - The Shadow Golem.

Lunar (right-sided)

Tier 1 - The infused glass shards-pure brilliance transmute.

Tier 2 - Explosionator/Photon Ray-Gun

@mkemal23@MarcoReverie

[EatenCheetos]

I love this