Bigspooks vs. Dragonfly

[Giovirtual79]

The video was too long to just put the file in, so I uploaded it onto YouTube to send it. It was originally hit or miss at first, but I blamed it on my myself. I placed the walls on a lava pond too close to the water, making it so I had no way for me to run when Dfly is attacking or in the chance I cannot stop the stomp attack. I moved the walls to another pond and the fight went much better. Another problem was that Abby would take a lot of damage if I am unable to stop the stomp, which is very much possible thanks to the amount of Bigspooks stunning her out of she sleep animation. My solution was to let Dfly use her stomp and use Escape to allow Abby to dodge the stomp. Since Bigspooks respawn pretty quickly, them dying isn't really an issue and their sacrifice allows me to have a free window to panflute without worrying about Abby or myself. After my refinements, I do think Bigspooks are very decent for this fight. I used the entire world's populations of graves for the sake of testing, but I do think you only really need 6-10 graves to allow this to work.
 

 

And yes, this would be a bit better if my walls were better or if I was better at kiting, which I am not the best at.

 

[Dingle]

Oh nice, you got a scale on first knockdown with 5 ghosts and murder abby. Can you get a scale with less ghosts?

I also did this in my first playthrough I posted in another thread. But without the murder buff, and only 3 ghosts. I also had the lune blossom buff on. The main benefit was that the bigspooks would take a hit instead of abby sometimes, but this was complete overkill with the player tag. Dragonfly even got to stomp abby, and I never had to use anything but a revenant restorative.

It is interesting if it lets you get a scale with less ghosts. Less worth it than on Bee Queen, otherwise. Especially since if you did this on both, it does start being a lot of flowers.

[Mike23Ua]

Hey can you just clarify one thing for me with this please?

in the old days of Dont starve you used to could “haunt” a grave as a dead player to force ghosts out of them as followers before they later removed it as a feature, Now that Wendy has that as her own “skill” can you “haunt” the graves to force ghosts out?

I can see myself and an Army of 50 ghosties taking down Dragonfly 

[Giovirtual79]

2 minutes ago, Dingle said:

Oh nice, you got a scale on first knockdown with 5 ghosts and murder abby. Can you get a scale with less ghosts?

I also did this in my first playthrough I posted in another thread. But without the murder buff, and only 3 ghosts. I also had the lune blossom buff on. The main benefit was that the bigspooks would take a hit instead of abby sometimes, but this was complete overkill with the player tag. Dragonfly even got to stomp abby, and I never had to use anything but a revenant restorative.

It is interesting if it lets you get a scale with less ghosts. Less worth it than on Bee Queen, otherwise. Especially since if you did this on both, it does start being a lot of flowers.

You probably just need 4 ghost to get a scale on the first cycle, which is doable. I don't think it's doable without more than 5 after the first drop since you need a lot of damage for Dfly to drop the scale and ghosts only do 15 damage. As stated in another thread, Flower petals aren't really an issue imo, especially since Wendy can craft butterflies now. 1 Pipspook Hunt bascially grants you 10 petals from the butterflies you craft. You don't need all the graves I had, I only did it for max potential, only 6-10 seems reasonable. I also elected not to use the player tag since I wanted to do the run with stuff you can get on the mainland, but I can definitely see how that can be useful. Can you link your run so I can see it for myself, I do think yours is more optimal compare to mines

3 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

Hey can you just clarify one thing for me with this please?

in the old days of Dont starve you used to could “haunt” a grave as a dead player to force ghosts out of them as followers before they later removed it as a feature, Now that Wendy has that as her own “skill” can you “haunt” the graves to force ghosts out?

I can see myself and an Army of 50 ghosties taking down Dragonfly 

I can quickly check. I don't think it's the case, but it doesn't hurt to see

[hyoton123]

Yeah dfly was the one I was also interested in because only a few bigspooks plus dark sword will pop the scale. Makes scale farming without using gems a bit less of a hassle than bunnies because the graves are all portable and it doesnt matter if the ghosts die.

 

Random other thoughts:

-reminds me of tentacle traps; pretty much any boss should be extremely safely killable using continually respawning ghosts to draw aggro, but safer to fight and get the drops 

-I imagine holding CC is no problem with them

-probably dont want them on nightmare werepig til the pillars go down. scrappy can probably be slowly afk killed by standing outside the arena.

-toadstool?!

-antlion will now super die instead of just die

-the portability is the really important part here, which is in line with wendy’s design

[Dingle]

14 minutes ago, Giovirtual79 said:

Can you link your run so I can see it for myself, I do think yours is more optimal compare to mines

I can quickly check. I don't think it's the case, but it doesn't hurt to see

That was my first playthrough so far. I'm slowly working on a second one, that is already going way better.

For flowers, I really wouldn't bother with resurrecting butterflies, ever. Like I said in the bigspook vs bee queen thread, you can either use a bug net to get butterflies directly, or just catch normal bees directly and drop them in a flower field.

This makes "homeless bees". Big summary: homeless bees will make new flowers constantly if there's at least 6 flowers in an area you visit frequently. Like your base.

They even do this in Winter off top of head.

 

[Giovirtual79]

11 minutes ago, Dingle said:

That was my first playthrough so far. I'm slowly working on a second one, that is already going way better.

For flowers, I really wouldn't bother with resurrecting butterflies, ever. Like I said in the bigspook vs bee queen thread, you can either use a bug net to get butterflies directly, or just catch normal bees directly and drop them in a flower field.

This makes "homeless bees". Big summary: homeless bees will make new flowers constantly if there's at least 6 flowers in an area you visit frequently. Like your base.

They even do this in Winter off top of head.

 

Yeah, I know crafting butterflies isn't the best option. I mainly bring it up because people fear about petal shortage. Thanks for the link, I'll be sure to look at it.