WenericMember Posted December 12, 2024 Share Posted December 12, 2024 Wendy's potion skills have had a weird history in the beta. Initially, they were three skills that doubled the 1 day potion duration. Then, it was considered to be condensed to two tiers, with the third becoming the potion casket. In the end, strong brew was compressed to one skill, while a new potion and the casket became tiers 1 and 2. With the advent of flower crown synergy, these skills are fine, but the tier four skill needs work. The skill adds a chance to produce double potions when cragting, loosely based on a potion durability concept. This, in a vacuum, is fine - if not a little plain for a tier four skill. Theres just one issue. Pipspook quest 3 exists. That skill doubles MG generation (equivalent effecy in potions), is usable with the new MG crafts, is 100% reliable, and is a tier 3 skill, not a tier 4. Sure potions IV can occassionally save a heart or dreadstone, but it is not worth a cost of insight. As I thought the beta was ending, and the skill was usable, I elected not to discuss it, opting for more critical skills to the tree, but with the beta extended, theres room to improve this skill. Perhaps, instead of doubling potion yield, it could instead give some buffs to Abigail while under the effects of potions, such as increased light radius, or passively producing MG, thus recouping the cost of potions. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162301-since-beta-veen-extended-please-have-a-look-at-potions-iv/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catuna_ Posted December 12, 2024 Share Posted December 12, 2024 35 minutes ago, WenericMember said: That skill doubles MG generation (equivalent effecy in potions), is usable with the new MG crafts, is 100% reliable, and is a tier 3 skill, not a tier 4. Sure potiins IV can occassionally save a heart or dreadstone, but it is not worth a cost. its a 42% chance for two potions and a 9% for three, gathering mourning glory is the worst part of playing wendy and i would take anything to have to go out for mourning glory less. you are more likely to produce more than 1 potion than not, so i'd much rather this perk stays as is. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162301-since-beta-veen-extended-please-have-a-look-at-potions-iv/#findComment-1774487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted December 12, 2024 Author Share Posted December 12, 2024 1 minute ago, Catuna_ said: its a 42% chance for two potions and a 9% for three, gathering mourning glory is the worst part of playing wendy and i would take anything to have to go out for mourning glory less. you are more likely to produce more than 1 potion than not, so i'd much rather this perk stays as is. Then just take the doubled mg reward from Pipspook Quest... Its so much more efficient for mg. Sure you can stack them, but having two final tier skills just effectively boost mg efficiency is so boring. Its a problem sure, but it robs so much creative potential from the tree Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162301-since-beta-veen-extended-please-have-a-look-at-potions-iv/#findComment-1774489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catuna_ Posted December 12, 2024 Share Posted December 12, 2024 Just now, WenericMember said: Then just take the doubled mg reward from Pipspook Quest... Its so much more efficient for mg. Sure you can stack them, but having two final tier skills just effectively boost mg efficiency is so boring. Its a problem sure, but it robs so much creative potential from the tree it doesnt need to be creative if it solves the issue well if you want to be creative then make wendy have more sources of mourning glory that are more passive, i think the perk is fine and it's a pretty powerful perk that fixes a pretty big issue with wendy Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162301-since-beta-veen-extended-please-have-a-look-at-potions-iv/#findComment-1774492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted December 12, 2024 Author Share Posted December 12, 2024 1 minute ago, Catuna_ said: it doesnt need to be creative if it solves the issue well if you want to be creative then make wendy have more sources of mourning glory that are more passive, i think the perk is fine and it's a pretty powerful perk that fixes a pretty big issue with wendy Except she already has a skill line dedicated to fixing thay exact issue, they dont need to co-opt another skill line into it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162301-since-beta-veen-extended-please-have-a-look-at-potions-iv/#findComment-1774493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catuna_ Posted December 12, 2024 Share Posted December 12, 2024 18 minutes ago, WenericMember said: Except she already has a skill line dedicated to fixing thay exact issue, they dont need to co-opt another skill line into it. hardly fixes it considering all the new crafts that require mourning glory... i'll take the current strong brew over any rework any day per 10 potions you'd get 6 extra on average, that is an entire pipspook worth of mourning glories sometimes perks dont really need to be creative, especially considering that the rest of her perks typically are Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162301-since-beta-veen-extended-please-have-a-look-at-potions-iv/#findComment-1774498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peasant Posted December 12, 2024 Share Posted December 12, 2024 I still think it would be better if allow 2 potions can work at the same time, or, maybe allow healing potions work separately from others? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162301-since-beta-veen-extended-please-have-a-look-at-potions-iv/#findComment-1774500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted December 12, 2024 Author Share Posted December 12, 2024 7 hours ago, YXukun said: I still think it would be better if allow 2 potions can work at the same time, or, maybe allow healing potions work separately from others? I imagine they dont want to do that for balance, as that would probably significantly increase Abbys strength, the super potions were a compromise so they were relevant post rift. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162301-since-beta-veen-extended-please-have-a-look-at-potions-iv/#findComment-1774789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
layangan putus Posted December 12, 2024 Share Posted December 12, 2024 8 hours ago, YXukun said: I still think it would be better if allow 2 potions can work at the same time, or, maybe allow healing potions work separately from others? I have great plan if they'd implement two elixirs simultaneously, just take the affinity slot for the second elixir. Please dev! Let us do it, everyone could benefit from this. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162301-since-beta-veen-extended-please-have-a-look-at-potions-iv/#findComment-1774803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grove Posted December 12, 2024 Share Posted December 12, 2024 It's fine as is. A good suggestion I saw is to swap it with the second skill in the same line, which would be neat and nice for experienced players that don't need the new elixir Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162301-since-beta-veen-extended-please-have-a-look-at-potions-iv/#findComment-1774826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted December 12, 2024 Author Share Posted December 12, 2024 42 minutes ago, Debruh said: It's fine as is. A good suggestion I saw is to swap it with the second skill in the same line, which would be neat and nice for experienced players that don't need the new elixir Ughhh that would be awful for insight builds. 4 insight for the potion would completely destroy build diversity if you want the potion. Wendy's already the most insight intensive survivor, with many tier 1 filler skills and basically no standalone skills except for the flavour of vengeful ghost. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162301-since-beta-veen-extended-please-have-a-look-at-potions-iv/#findComment-1774835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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