Limits should be added to atmo suit

[X_mumu]

When the bionic puts on the atmo suit and does not take it off again, the atmo suit will not require maintenance.

Because bionics can store large amounts of oxygen, not taking off their atmo suits has almost no effect on them.

My suggestion would be to add a time limit to the pneumatic pressure suit, just like the lead suit.

[Tigin]

…the lead suit has a time limit?

Anyway, another proposal would be to not be able to perform oxygen chores (BionicMassOxygenAbsorbChore and FindAndConsumeOxygenSourceChore) when inside suits, instead using the built-in suit O2.

[X_mumu]

Lead suits require oxygen and electricity, and electricity provides 200s of thermal protection

[mitboy]

Suits are pretty finnicky, yeah. 

20 minutes ago, X_mumu said:

Lead suits require oxygen and electricity, and electricity provides 200s of thermal protection

Oh interesting, I always thought that yellow bard under lead suits was about radiation protection.

[Tigin]

26 minutes ago, X_mumu said:

Lead suits require oxygen and electricity, and electricity provides 200s of thermal protection

Is there a trick to get it to work properly? The "battery" has always been 100% for me

[X_mumu]

6 minutes ago, Tigin said:

Is there a trick to get it to work properly? The "battery" has always been 100% for me

Lead suits are recharged at the same time as they are replenished with oxygen. Takes up to 60s to fully charge

[Tigin]

8 minutes ago, X_mumu said:

Lead suits are recharged at the same time as they are replenished with oxygen. Takes up to 60s to fully charge

It still eludes me. I've never seen the battery go down. 

 

Both battery charge and duration are still full after use

[X_mumu]

Lead suits provide superior insulation to atmo suits, but they slowly lose their charge when the replicant wearing them is exposed to temperatures above 66°C. Once the suit is fully insulated, it loses all of its insulating power. Once depleted, the suit loses all insulation.

7 minutes ago, Tigin said:

It still eludes me. I've never seen the battery go down. 

 

Both battery charge and duration are still full after use

 

[Tigin]

2 minutes ago, X_mumu said:

Lead suits provide superior insulation to atmo suits, but they slowly lose their charge when the replicant wearing them is exposed to temperatures above 66°C. Once the suit is fully insulated, it loses all of its insulating power. Once depleted, the suit loses all insulation.

 

Oh, that is very cool. I did not realize it decreased based off thermals! (Sorry for derailing, this is a very fun factoid)

[X_mumu]

6 minutes ago, Tigin said:

Oh, that is very cool. I did not realize it decreased based off thermals! (Sorry for derailing, this is a very fun factoid)

Yes, with a slight modification to the lead suit code introduced into the atmo suit, such as a change in duration to 600s, it would be possible to place restrictions on bionics not needing to take off their atmo suits.

[dez3940]

3 hours ago, X_mumu said:

When the bionic puts on the atmo suit and does not take it off again, the atmo suit will not require maintenance.

Because bionics can store large amounts of oxygen, not taking off their atmo suits has almost no effect on them.

My suggestion would be to add a time limit to the pneumatic pressure suit, just like the lead suit.

not until bionics have resistance to eye irritation popped ear drums and some temp rang (-38c - 90c)

[X_mumu]

Late in the game, once I provided atmo suits for the dupes, I didn't need to worry about anything at all anymore especially the bionic dupes. I found this to be so pointless. It feels like some restrictions should be added, like putting on the atmo suit for a long period of time will cause the pressure to go up, and they should also be given the chance to relax in a comfortable environment

[Pproy]

On 12/9/2024 at 3:43 PM, X_mumu said:

Lead suits are recharged at the same time as they are replenished with oxygen. Takes up to 60s to fully charge

...Well, today I learn...

What about as a nerf atmosuit like lead suit would need a charged battery? The battery could last a cycle or two before needing a recharge and if the suit get depleted it would give the dupe wearing it a large athletism debuff? On normal atmosuit set up, it wouldn't change anything but would deter the current "equip and forget" strategy on bionic dupe

[missasch]

If you don't like that they can wear atmo suits indefinitely can't you just set up your base so that they go through checkpoints just like the normal dupes? Why do you need them to change the game instead of just not using them in a way you don't like?

[Pproy]

On 1/28/2025 at 4:31 PM, missasch said:

If you don't like that they can wear atmo suits indefinitely can't you just set up your base so that they go through checkpoints just like the normal dupes?

Because it is actually counter productive. Not only would I need to deal with suit degradation, but my bionic dupe could actually be exposed to water, high pressure gas or anything from the enviroment.

Them having the ability of wearing the suit at all time just promote lazy game play. Why should i make sure that my base is clear of water puddle? Once my bionic dupe have a suit, it doesn't matter anymore.

If we want invincible dupes, they should at least cost more than 300 kg of refined metal and two reed fiber. The soldering station could have upgrade for bionic dupe that make it so they are more resistant to the enviroment, at the cost that they consume more power.