yinjiu019 Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 I started playing this game in July this year. So far, I have only witnessed one major version update. I have always had high expectations for this game. Since I was diagnosed with mental illness, DST has almost become all my time. I have played DST for about 1700 hours, of which more than 1000 hours were spent playing Wendy. I have deep feelings for this character... I am like a sister and want to take care of Wendy's every move. I really, really like this character... Before this beta version update, Gestalt Abigail could effectively face boss creatures with Wendy, and even rarely get hurt. But this update makes it extremely difficult for Gestalt Abigail to face boss creatures. Gestalt Abigail can survive by using confusing operations, but this completely turns into the two sisters dragging each other down, and there is no feeling of cooperating and surviving together before. It makes people feel very... lonely and disappointed. It is reasonable for the two sisters to cooperate with each other... In the worst case, Wendy is just a vase with no fighting power, and even less powerful than Wes. Then I will still choose Wendy. What I want is simply to let Gestalt Abigail survive most boss battles, sisters together... If possible, don't weaken any Gestalt Abigail and Wendy's stats and mechanics Let them deal with bosses and other creatures as easily as in the last beta version... Most players are very dissatisfied with Wendy's skill tree. It can be completely redone, but this will probably bother the developers. But even so, I sincerely hope that you can consider it... I apologize for my excessive request...... Hope DST can get better and better Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161986-a-depressed-wendy-player-who-has-played-for-1000-hours-has-some-weak-thoughts-on-the-beta-version-of-wendy/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiceMilk Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 I support your idea. Gestalt Abigail sacrificed AOE capability and had a long conversion cycle. If this cannot improve her survival ability, then I would rather use her original form. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161986-a-depressed-wendy-player-who-has-played-for-1000-hours-has-some-weak-thoughts-on-the-beta-version-of-wendy/#findComment-1770331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzzzzzzzzz Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 up Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161986-a-depressed-wendy-player-who-has-played-for-1000-hours-has-some-weak-thoughts-on-the-beta-version-of-wendy/#findComment-1770340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
renamoe Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 First of all, I'm deeply sorry to hear about your mental health struggles. Playing close to 2000 hours in just a few months shows incredible dedication, but it also seems very intensive. Please consider taking time for yourself—seeing a doctor, taking prescribed medicine, or even spending time outside might bring some relief. Your well-being is the most important thing. Regarding Wendy's beta update, I completely understand your concerns and your strong connection to her character. Your hope for Wendy and Abigail to work together harmoniously, as they did before, resonates with many of us. The bond between the sisters is what makes playing Wendy so special, and it's disheartening to see that connection feel weakened in this beta. Please don't feel burdened by the beta changes. I'm hopeful that Klei will address our feedback and refine Wendy's skill tree further before the live release. Let me reassure you—this is a collaborative effort, and your voice, along with others, is making an impact. I'll make sure to keep you updated on any improvements, and I believe we'll see a better Wendy by the time the updates go live. Take care of yourself. 抱抱~照顾好自己，温蒂交给我们吧。 Edit: Personal Reflections After reading your post, I feel compelled to share a little more about my thoughts. Wendy resonates deeply with many players because her character evokes kindness, warmth, and vulnerability. These traits connect us to her on a personal level—they make her feel like more than just a character in a game. This is why posts like yours matter. They show that the changes to Wendy's mechanics have emotional consequences for players who identify with her. Seeing someone share their struggles in such a heartfelt way has been deeply moving for me, and honestly, it's also made me feel a little pressured and saddened. These updates aren't just tweaks to gameplay; they affect real people who care about this game and its characters on a profound level. I hope the developers recognize the weight of posts like these and offer kind words and comfort, alongside thoughtful updates. And I encourage everyone in this community to leave kind words, free from quarrels or arguments—just warmth and understanding. This isn't just about game mechanics; it's about protecting and supporting players' emotional well-being. Hurtful changes and dismissive attitudes can leave real scars, and I hope we all do our best to care for each other. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161986-a-depressed-wendy-player-who-has-played-for-1000-hours-has-some-weak-thoughts-on-the-beta-version-of-wendy/#findComment-1770353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzzzzzzzzz Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 11分钟前，renamoe说： 首先，听到你的心理健康问题，我深感遗憾。在短短几个月内演奏了近2000个小时，这显示了令人难以置信的奉献精神，但似乎也非常紧张。请考虑给自己一些时间——看医生、服用处方药，甚至花时间在外面可能会带来一些缓解。你的健康是最重要的。 关于Wendy的测试版更新，我完全理解你的担忧以及你与她角色的强烈联系。你希望Wendy和Abigail能像以前一样和谐地合作，引起我们许多人的共鸣。姐妹之间的纽带是扮演温迪如此特别的原因，看到这种联系在这个测试版中感觉减弱，令人沮丧。 请不要因测试版的变化而感到负担。我希望Klei能在直播发布前解决我们的反馈，并进一步完善Wendy的技能树。让我向你保证——这是一项合作努力，你的声音和其他人一起正在产生影响。我会确保随时向您通报任何改进情况，我相信在更新上线时，我们会看到更好的Wendy。 照顾好自己。 抱抱~照顾好自己，把温蒂交给我们吧。 It's so touching. I don't know how to say something very warm, but your words make me feel warm. I think this is the tenderness of Wendy players. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161986-a-depressed-wendy-player-who-has-played-for-1000-hours-has-some-weak-thoughts-on-the-beta-version-of-wendy/#findComment-1770362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SullyD Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 2 hours ago, yinjiu019 said: In the worst case, Wendy is just a vase with no fighting power, and even less powerful than Wes. HA HA.... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161986-a-depressed-wendy-player-who-has-played-for-1000-hours-has-some-weak-thoughts-on-the-beta-version-of-wendy/#findComment-1770376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiko24 Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 Just now, SullyD said: HA HA.... i seriously don't get it how they can say something even remotely similar she is better than wolfgang, she has his dps and has aoe, what's there more to want? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161986-a-depressed-wendy-player-who-has-played-for-1000-hours-has-some-weak-thoughts-on-the-beta-version-of-wendy/#findComment-1770377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzzzzzzzzz Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 3分钟前，Reiko24说： 我真的不明白他们怎么能说一些非常相似的话 她比wolfgang好，她有他的dps和aoe，还有什么想要的呢？ If you don't understand, start your head and think about it carefully. Don't cause a fight under this post. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161986-a-depressed-wendy-player-who-has-played-for-1000-hours-has-some-weak-thoughts-on-the-beta-version-of-wendy/#findComment-1770381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edible Coal Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 1 minute ago, SullyD said: HA HA.... 6 minutes ago, SullyD said: HA HA.... i mean the video have so many end game gear lol Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161986-a-depressed-wendy-player-who-has-played-for-1000-hours-has-some-weak-thoughts-on-the-beta-version-of-wendy/#findComment-1770382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SullyD Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 2 minutes ago, Edible Coal said: i mean the video have so many end game gear lol And you've been expecting a strong character since day 1 of the game? You can do the same thing normally, it just takes 2-3 minutes longer. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161986-a-depressed-wendy-player-who-has-played-for-1000-hours-has-some-weak-thoughts-on-the-beta-version-of-wendy/#findComment-1770384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacco Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 Wendy's skill tree is very interesting and makes her strong but not op. It's totally fine,nit doesn't need any change. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161986-a-depressed-wendy-player-who-has-played-for-1000-hours-has-some-weak-thoughts-on-the-beta-version-of-wendy/#findComment-1770395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edible Coal Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 16 minutes ago, SullyD said: And you've been expecting a strong character since day 1 of the game? You can do the same thing normally, it just takes 2-3 minutes longer. also this post is talking about gabi nerf not shabi ( shadow abi) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161986-a-depressed-wendy-player-who-has-played-for-1000-hours-has-some-weak-thoughts-on-the-beta-version-of-wendy/#findComment-1770397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
renamoe Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 56 minutes ago, zzzzzzzzzzz said: It's so touching. I don't know how to say something very warm, but your words make me feel warm. I think this is the tenderness of Wendy players. Thank you so much for quoting my reply in translated Chinese. I truly appreciate it. I assume the original poster, @yinjiu019, might be Chinese based on the nickname, and I hope my words can bring them some comfort and be understood more easily. Your response is also a part of that comfort—you're doing a wonderful job in showing kindness and warmth. This, I believe, reflects the tenderness and empathy that Wendy players often carry. Together, we're creating a space of support, and that means a lot. Thank you. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161986-a-depressed-wendy-player-who-has-played-for-1000-hours-has-some-weak-thoughts-on-the-beta-version-of-wendy/#findComment-1770404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yinjiu019 Posted December 7, 2024 Author Share Posted December 7, 2024 Sorry, my words have caused some ambiguity and misunderstood everyone... What I want to say is: If Wendy becomes a weaker character than Wes in the subsequent updates, then I will still insist on playing Wendy. In fact, after the second beta update, Wendy is not weak. Even her upper limit can reach the top of the game. But it needs to meet a series of very troublesome conditions to meet this height, so it is not practical in most cases. Perhaps the skill tree update is to solve the various weaknesses of the character and strengthen the strengths of the character. But can we also do the opposite? Wendy’s biggest weakness is that she is extremely bad at facing shadow creatures such as terrorbeak. Here are some immature suggestions: when Wendy’s sanity value is low, increase Abigail and its related strengths. That’s it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161986-a-depressed-wendy-player-who-has-played-for-1000-hours-has-some-weak-thoughts-on-the-beta-version-of-wendy/#findComment-1770443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yinjiu019 Posted December 7, 2024 Author Share Posted December 7, 2024 5 minutes ago, Sacco said: i have never said something racial bro. Why? It's just a fact that a lot of chinese players entered the forums to attack devs (NOT ALL OF CHINESE PLAYERS, BUT I SAW A GOOD AMOUNT) Bro is going to call the police for what? ah yes, having an opinion on a charcter. I don't want everyone to quarrel... We want a relaxed and happy exchange We also hope that everyone will not make too many insulting remarks. It will make everyone unhappy... Everyone must have gathered together with love for the characters and DST, right? So... let's play games happily together? This is the meaning of the existence of this game~ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161986-a-depressed-wendy-player-who-has-played-for-1000-hours-has-some-weak-thoughts-on-the-beta-version-of-wendy/#findComment-1770453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzzzzzzzzz Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 4分钟前，Maxposting说： 我讨厌这个主题中的每一个帖子 Omg, make such a statement under this post Omg, make such a statement under this post, No one wants to know your opinion, especially under this post. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161986-a-depressed-wendy-player-who-has-played-for-1000-hours-has-some-weak-thoughts-on-the-beta-version-of-wendy/#findComment-1770456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxposting Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 6 minutes ago, Sacco said: me too... Just for an opinion i got called racist... dude you were acting odd in one of the threads As for the gestalt abigail, I don't think it is necessary or health to worry. I think they'll change how she plays out so it becomes fine. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161986-a-depressed-wendy-player-who-has-played-for-1000-hours-has-some-weak-thoughts-on-the-beta-version-of-wendy/#findComment-1770457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacco Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 52 minutes ago, Maxposting said: dude you were acting odd in one of the threads As for the gestalt abigail, I don't think it is necessary or health to worry. I think they'll change how she plays out so it becomes fine. i just said that a lot of chinese players just joined the forums to attack devs, which is true. I don't cara about their nationality tho, they can be finnish, italian, canadian or i don't know, but i don't care about nationality. About lunar abi i just think she needs a bit of her damage back. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161986-a-depressed-wendy-player-who-has-played-for-1000-hours-has-some-weak-thoughts-on-the-beta-version-of-wendy/#findComment-1770458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxposting Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 1 minute ago, Sacco said: i just said that a lot of chinese players just joined the forums to attack devs, which is true. Yeah, so? Most players actually want the game to fit them, just try to ignore and report inflammatory posts. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161986-a-depressed-wendy-player-who-has-played-for-1000-hours-has-some-weak-thoughts-on-the-beta-version-of-wendy/#findComment-1770459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uedo Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 2 hours ago, renamoe said: This is why posts like yours matter. They show that the changes to Wendy's mechanics have emotional consequences for players who identify with her. Seeing someone share their struggles in such a heartfelt way has been deeply moving for me, and honestly, it's also made me feel a little pressured and saddened. These updates aren't just tweaks to gameplay; they affect real people who care about this game and its characters on a profound level. I hope the developers recognize the weight of posts like these and offer kind words and comfort, alongside thoughtful updates. And I encourage everyone in this community to leave kind words, free from quarrels or arguments—just warmth and understanding. This isn't just about game mechanics; it's about protecting and supporting players' emotional well-being. Hurtful changes and dismissive attitudes can leave real scars, and I hope we all do our best to care for each other. I'm so sorry to say this but this is incredibly unfair to place in the hands of the developers, I completely get where you're coming from, I really really do. But the devs are not intentionally harming anyones wellbeing, and I think putting that level of stress on someone is not fair or appropriate at all. They're not counsellors, therapists or resilience coaches. As someone with a MH diagnosis myself, this is something that should be spoken through with the appropriate services and support and not burdened on the developers of a computer game. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161986-a-depressed-wendy-player-who-has-played-for-1000-hours-has-some-weak-thoughts-on-the-beta-version-of-wendy/#findComment-1770460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacco Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 Just now, Maxposting said: Yeah, so? Most players actually want the game to fit them, just try to ignore and report inflammatory posts. I just said that it was irrespectful to the devs, that's it. Because they did not give any constructive criticism and just attacked them. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161986-a-depressed-wendy-player-who-has-played-for-1000-hours-has-some-weak-thoughts-on-the-beta-version-of-wendy/#findComment-1770461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uedo Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 21 minutes ago, cyjs said: But this is not a reason for you to issue racial discrimination. You ask us to be polite, but you are one of the barbarians. I don’t want to say anything more to you. I have already started collecting evidence. Sir, this is a Wendys. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161986-a-depressed-wendy-player-who-has-played-for-1000-hours-has-some-weak-thoughts-on-the-beta-version-of-wendy/#findComment-1770462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidankocherhans Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 23 minutes ago, Maxposting said: dude you were acting odd in one of the threads As for the gestalt abigail, I don't think it is necessary or health to worry. I think they'll change how she plays out so it becomes fine. They were acting odd because they were being harassed relentlessly, don't act like no one else was the problem Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161986-a-depressed-wendy-player-who-has-played-for-1000-hours-has-some-weak-thoughts-on-the-beta-version-of-wendy/#findComment-1770474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
renamoe Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 14 minutes ago, Uedo said: I'm so sorry to say this but this is incredibly unfair to place in the hands of the developers, I completely get where you're coming from, I really really do. But the devs are not intentionally harming anyones wellbeing, and I think putting that level of stress on someone is not fair or appropriate at all. They're not counsellors, therapists or resilience coaches. As someone with a MH diagnosis myself, this is something that should be spoken through with the appropriate services and support and not burdened on the developers of a computer game. I'm truly sorry to hear about your own challenges, and I sincerely wish you well. Thank you for sharing your perspective—it's an important reminder of how nuanced and personal these discussions can be. You're absolutely right—it's not fair to place such responsibility on the developers. Games aren't medicine, and they shouldn't be relied on for healing. That's why I suggested in my earlier reply that the original poster take a step back and try not to carry the weight of the beta changes alone. That said, posts like this emphasize how deeply connected players feel to characters like Wendy and how much they value the game. While it's not a direct cause-and-effect situation, there is certainly a connection between the emotional investment players have and the impact changes can have. Approaching Wendy's updates with thoughtful care can help avoid any unintended effects on her dedicated fanbase. I trust that the developers are listening and will address these concerns with care and attention. Lastly, I want to thank you again for contributing to this discussion and sharing your thoughts. Wishing you all the best! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161986-a-depressed-wendy-player-who-has-played-for-1000-hours-has-some-weak-thoughts-on-the-beta-version-of-wendy/#findComment-1770478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxposting Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 6 minutes ago, aidankocherhans said: don't act like no one else was the problem I am aware there was a flood of players who were harassing and trolling (and then there were reactionary trolls to these trolls who were not new posters altogether). It is genuinely not productive to point these trolls out in every thread as the trolls will actually say just inflammatory stuff and derail any thread. Putting the trolls as *mainly* or *only* chinese does just fuel actually bigoted sentiments. Peace Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161986-a-depressed-wendy-player-who-has-played-for-1000-hours-has-some-weak-thoughts-on-the-beta-version-of-wendy/#findComment-1770483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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