marshyds Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 1. The child abduction bonus The knabsack may capture mobs, INCLUDING ones outside of bugnet ones. For example : Frogs, lunar frogs, moonquay crabs and everything else you can put in a trap. 2. The genocide bonus The more souls you nab from dead mobs the more powerful it gets, however, not grabbing a soul after a while (4 minutes?) makes the buff start diminishing . This is more comfortable than clogging your inventory with soul jars, atleast in my opinion. This buff would also work with killing creatures in your inventory to get souls. (soul jars have made it easier to hoard souls, so giving killing living creatures in inventory a duel purpose in buffing your weapon would be nice.) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161867-knabsack-suggestions/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copyafriend Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 1 minute ago, marshyds said: 1. The child abduction bonus The knabsack may capture mobs, INCLUDING ones outside of bugnet ones. For example : Frogs, lunar frogs, moonquay crabs and everything else you can put in a trap. 2. The genocide bonus The more souls you nab from dead mobs the more powerful it gets, however, not grabbing a soul after a while (4 minutes?) makes the buff start diminishing . This is more comfortable than clogging your inventory with soul jars, atleast in my opinion. This buff would also work with killing creatures in your inventory to get souls. What if wortox got a stackable buff from gathering souls that expires after a few minutes. Like +1 damage per soul gathered, resets upon not gathering a soul in 5 minutes Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161867-knabsack-suggestions/#findComment-1769001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicPotato97 Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 Soul bonus thing is cool, bit unsure just because Knabsack's damage balancing has been all over the place. But with the soul jars it'd be a neat excuse to do the old way of bringing small animals with you to murder once again. I really like the abduction thing, idk if Klei would want to do that just because then the mobs would need the treatment that spiders got with Webber's rework. And it seems a bit OP to me if you can do it while they're awake (clearing an entire frog rain that way for example. Maybe only if they're sleeping/passive?) but Iove the concept of scooping up things. That bit of flavour would go a long way IMO. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161867-knabsack-suggestions/#findComment-1769005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshyds Posted December 5, 2024 Author Share Posted December 5, 2024 23 minutes ago, CosmicPotato97 said: Soul bonus thing is cool, bit unsure just because Knabsack's damage balancing has been all over the place. But with the soul jars it'd be a neat excuse to do the old way of bringing small animals with you to murder once again. I really like the abduction thing, idk if Klei would want to do that just because then the mobs would need the treatment that spiders got with Webber's rework. And it seems a bit OP to me if you can do it while they're awake (clearing an entire frog rain that way for example. Maybe only if they're sleeping/passive?) but Iove the concept of scooping up things. That bit of flavour would go a long way IMO. 1) In terms of soul bonus, the main idea is encouraging you to use the capture part of the sack to store up a boost when you need it most. Or just slowly slowball damage like a madman in that hound wave or bee slaughter, your choice. 2) Capturing hostile creatures means you'd have other frogs and spiders on your tail, potentially. Also would give Wortox a more unique niche in being able to capture unique mobs i guess. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161867-knabsack-suggestions/#findComment-1769022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingle Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 Grass gekkos please Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161867-knabsack-suggestions/#findComment-1769037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 1 hour ago, marshyds said: 1. The child abduction bonus The knabsack may capture mobs, INCLUDING ones outside of bugnet ones. For example : Frogs, lunar frogs, moonquay crabs and everything else you can put in a trap. yes....PLEASE, the one thing i have problems with wortox skill tree is the knapsack it being a bad weapon, a not makin sense weapon even...like PLOEASE this NEEDS to change the knapsack, makin it more sense and more in line with krampus Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161867-knabsack-suggestions/#findComment-1769042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Giggio Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 I like the possibility of being able to grab bugs with this a lot. It can be easily seen as a bug net. Would love that honestly. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161867-knabsack-suggestions/#findComment-1769068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingle Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 5 minutes ago, Mr Giggio said: I like the possibility of being able to grab bugs with this a lot. It can be easily seen as a bug net. Would love that honestly. Especially since it bwcones obsolete as a weapon once you get a rift open, due to lunar and shadow alignment. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161867-knabsack-suggestions/#findComment-1769072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshyds Posted December 6, 2024 Author Share Posted December 6, 2024 7 hours ago, Dingle said: Especially since it bwcones obsolete as a weapon once you get a rift open, due to lunar and shadow alignment. my main issue is that its just kinda boring as a weapon, not how useful it is lategame Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161867-knabsack-suggestions/#findComment-1769179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted December 6, 2024 Share Posted December 6, 2024 11 minutes ago, marshyds said: my main issue is that its just kinda boring as a weapon, not how useful it is lategame if i think of wortox i dont think of having his special weapon, if i think of an bag like thing, i dont think of it as using it as a weapon but you know, store things in it Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161867-knabsack-suggestions/#findComment-1769181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_NiX Posted December 6, 2024 Share Posted December 6, 2024 I agree with using Knabsack as a net, but as a portable trap it would make things complicated. Spiders can be captured, sure. But Frogs die when they are captured. If anything I think it should be able to capture small passive critters like Rabbits, Birds(that are sleeping or stuck with sticky ammo of Walter) and Butterflies. Maybe Spiders, but that's a big maybe. What if instead of aoe Gather with "Space" hotkey, he had Right Click short leap that would collect anything around aoe? That would allow you to collect items in aoe similar to the way we have now, and use the capture feature for small critters. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161867-knabsack-suggestions/#findComment-1769202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollow soul 3 Posted December 6, 2024 Share Posted December 6, 2024 I would love for it to be useful to pick up some of the sleeping critters. It would make a pretty strong case for the neutral skill tree Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161867-knabsack-suggestions/#findComment-1769284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingle Posted December 6, 2024 Share Posted December 6, 2024 9 hours ago, marshyds said: my main issue is that its just kinda boring as a weapon, not how useful it is lategame I'm ok with it as a weapon. I use it on some bosses, then switch to a hambat so I can use my souls for teleporting affer. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/161867-knabsack-suggestions/#findComment-1769290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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