walter ACTUAL skills

[IAmAFurrz]

copying from a comment since ive already said this before (also i wouldnt have made this had his skill tree not emphasize the worst thing about slingshot: it being a WEAPON)

ive seen some people that are like 'yea the cheese is what makes him good', and when i argue 'good but not well designed' they just dont get risk-reward ratio that the slowdowns give/bad design of the slingshot in general

i personally think he should get more special rounds, some that promote active combat rather than slowing it to a halt as the only debuff they have is either freeze or slow (and the slow is way overtuned with icker, and unless klei starts making 'charge' attacks where enemies move with a hitbox like with eye of terror, all mobs can be outranged/cheesed or just beaten on woby)

the way i see walters slingshot is now just a cheese factory. the way to change this is to change the slingshot to be more ultility than just a weapon as his range is way too high for there to be any risk (and it incentivizes not fun OR creative fights). make some debuffs like attack down, make enemies' special attacks slower (do not make this a 'reset' special attack timer), rounds that have a small spore AOE damage effect (idea was inspired by a friend). skills tied to these can be 'effects last longer' and such

side note: splash from moonglass rounds are fine as is, but buff stinger rounds.

also give his special long ranged shot a CD. i dont rlly know why thats even a thing, to just give players an extremely safe shot on bosses that are extra far away (literal cheese factory in this)

as for 'boyscout themed' skills, make it so his sanity loss from taking dmg is lessened, promotes melee/active combat, make it so the hat actually does smthn (make it take %damage from him losing sanity, while negating that sanity loss), the HP threshold before he starts having a constant sanity drain be lowered. all this can be themed around bravery

some more ideas for boyscout skills can be make campfires/firepits last longer, sleeping helps gain stats faster, foraging goes faster (idk why they gave woodie faster picking but they certainly did), he can put out fires (or just smouldering entities) with some item/just bare hands without taking damage (can make ice rounds useful by making it AOE and also takes out ongoing fires). 

  13 hours ago, Bluepugjr said:

Which is why I think his tree needs the woodie/wolfgang treatment where we give him new things to do. Some suggestions I for perks I’d like to see would be improved mapping, traps, boating, healing and upgrades to the pine tree pioneer hat.

amazing idea dude, maybe allow him to be better on the ocean with a more personalized boat, maybe something smaller than a grass raft (and since its lighter in weight, rowing makes it move faster). healing perk can be faster animation for using healing items, and more efficient use of healing items. traps, i dont got much for, and mapping he already has good mobility in woby's riding

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16 minutes ago, IAmAFurrz said:

rounds that have a small spore AOE damage effect (idea was inspired by a friend).

Worth mentioning that horror rounds already do this using the thulecite's magicial effect and brilliant rounds give a planar debuff that makes planar weapons do more damage to enemies.

[S.Gallows]

Using the slingshot as a debuff tool while still using melee weapons does sound more fun and it gives Walter a more "interactive" fighting style than just spamming rounds from a distance, which would still be viable, but it opens more ways for Walter to combat enemies.

Walter being able to craft a portable campfire would be nice and more crafts that are not just slingshot/round related but still boyscout themed, and even gaining a buff after sleeping (like attacking faster "well rested buff") and gaining stats faster would give more use for the tent.

[IAmAFurrz]

On 12/1/2024 at 10:09 AM, S.Gallows said:

Using the slingshot as a debuff tool while still using melee weapons does sound more fun and it gives Walter a more "interactive" fighting style than just spamming rounds from a distance, which would still be viable, but it opens more ways for Walter to combat enemies.

Walter being able to craft a portable campfire would be nice and more crafts that are not just slingshot/round related but still boyscout themed, and even gaining a buff after sleeping (like attacking faster "well rested buff") and gaining stats faster would give more use for the tent.

revisitting this and gonna necro bump cuz these are such good ideas, and simple too. itd make slingshot even 1 bit interesting

also add some other ideas like a 3 way shot mod for slingshot so that it actually can be used for melee and rewards it, while also being viable against bq/fw/ck stuff (something with a constantly dropping spore round can work, so that he doesnt need to use slingshot constantly to crowd control like with moonglass rounds)