Since we have already planned to balance Wendy's skill book. Can we balance with Wigford

[Dreamers250]

Wigford's skill book, your Korey Entertainment also made it very sloppy. Is there still a possibility of balance in the future? Please consider us. Wigford's skills, the tree is really weak. Is that impressive

[Catapult 2.0]

It's a shame that Wegford's skill tree is a shame, and many players are not satisfied with it until now. It wouldn't have been possible if players had been able to come to the forums with a lot of feedback like Wendy, while the players focused on weakening Willow for balance

[renamoe]

It seems the Klei devs already recognize that Wendy’s skill tree may need rebalancing, which is a positive sign. Rebalancing every character to make them more fun and engaging for their fans and players would be a fantastic step forward.

If you feel strongly about Wigfrid’s skill tree, now is an excellent time to share your thoughts. With three characters currently in beta and still in development, posting your suggestions and feedback here can make a difference. However, after the beta updates go live, it might also help to post in the General Discussion forum. This could increase visibility and make it more likely for Klei to notice the voices of Wigfrid’s fans.

I agree that it’s a shame and pity Wigfrid hasn’t received the attention she deserves, and I understand how disappointing it must feel for her fans. Let’s hope Klei considers this feedback in the future to ensure all characters feel balanced and exciting to play.

[Your Chester]

我非常同意，Wigfrid 的技能树很差，大部分 Wigfrid 粉丝都不满意，我觉得，KLEI 应该为 Wigfrid 设计一个更完美、更符合玩家需求的，让每个玩家都能玩得开心，而不是敷衍玩家，这是 KLEI 的责任！我也为每一个 KLEI 周边皮肤 CDK 购买了支持，我真诚地希望 KLEI 能够照顾好 Wigfried 技能树！很重要的问题是，各个分支的装备值太低，与同时期的其他装备相比，盾牌和指挥官头盔、公牛训练分支、次元防御等根本没有选择;因此，Wigfrid 的游戏玩法没有太大变化，也没有创新！

[cropo]

Honest question here, is Wigfrid's skill tree really that bad? I personally think she got a really great skill tree. She got two signature weapons, unique to her with their own unique special attacks; she got buffs to her helm so that it is updated for lunar content, she got a large optional Beefalo skill tree for Beef-awesomeness if one persists on using those hairy little time-sinks.

Isn't she what a skill tree should aim for? I don't like pure number adjustments in skill trees, or skills that lower their weaknesses. Like the refreshes, I like stuff that actually adds new and unique stuff to the character; Willow being able to shoot fire out of her hands is way cooler than "being on fire does more damage to the enemy" so I considered Wigfrids skill tree to be really cool and in-line with her character.

I guess I just like skill trees that add flat-out new skills and abilities rather than skill trees that "fix" problems for a character.

[lio516]

我也是这么认为的，驯牛技巧真的让人看不懂，他真的需要吗，整体缺乏乐趣

[iamxyy]

agree

[Xiang001]

Agree with you.Most wigfrid players who truly love her are dissatisfied with her skill tree. The skill tree almost never change the gameplay of the character before beating Celestial Champion and Celestial Fissure.It's almost same gameplay for wigfrid before release of her skill tree.

For Battle Rond,it has an expensine cost and low durable in the early stage of game (unopen Celestial and shadow Fissure) .Based on my gaming experience ,the only useful battle is dragonfly. In other cases , it's less better than positioning battle use other weapons  (I can perform positional attacks,why use shield?? Too much use of shield will make your skills worse). Another point, after opening fissure ,the shield will cause less damage to planar biology.

 

For Elding spear , it looks like great,uh??  NO , opposite , it has an awkwead damage   ( this means that you can't only attack once and then kill a bee ,frog , spider , mosquito, moonrock pengull, blued hound red hound and horror hound  )   and poor using experence.  Due to the spear with zero durablity will disappear. SO when you battle with bosses , you have to always pay attention to the durability of Elding spear. In battle , you will always use the sprint to fix your spear (At most , it is 4% . But when you solo battlle with a boss , it is 2%. ) This means that you will reduce your DPS , even less than DPS of Brighthade Sword with Helm and Shadow Reaper with cowl.(In others words , killing a boss need more time than using Brighthade Sword with Helm and Shadow Reaper with cowl)  You may not know that using Elding spear to attack once will cause less than using  Brighthade Sword with Brighthade Helm for attack planar biology . It ' so sad and ridiculous ........ But if durability of Brighthade Sword became zero, you only need to use a repair kit to fix it well (100%). Opposit,repair low durability spear need to waste your much time......

There's one more thing ,  the use of spear includes forward and backward swinging , which may make you be attacked by biology. 

Embarrassing damage , troublesome and inconvenient repair method , delayed obtaining time. This is the spear you Klei invented.

 

For Commander's Helm . Only when you have 100% heath ,you can repair the Helm. But ,that I wear the Helm is to protect myself ,not to protect the Helm !! 

Knocking off protection is of some use , but not necessary . Dreadstone Armor is easier to repair and higher defense capability . Why will I choose Commander's Helm rather than Dreadstone Armor

 For beefalo skills , it is almost useless for wigfrid . Wigfrid can cause more damage by herself than beefalo . Wendy needs this more .

So designer of wigfrid skill tree , are you really playing game?  Do you really understand wigfrid ?

Can you see us?Klei?

[arubaro]

Outside of the fun weapons her skill tree is pretty bad. The alignment skills are the most uninteresting content ever added by klei, the unnecessary flat planar defense instead of something interesting like throwing the spear, the beef branch which is useless if you dont plant to use beefalos, the canister being a 1 time use perk...

[Dingle]

5 hours ago, cropo said:

Honest question here, is Wigfrid's skill tree really that bad? I personally think she got a really great skill tree. She got two signature weapons, unique to her with their own unique special attacks; she got buffs to her helm so that it is updated for lunar content, she got a large optional Beefalo skill tree for Beef-awesomeness if one persists on using those hairy little time-sinks.

I think it was pretty bad. For me and other wigfrid players I talk to, you get the spear (post rift), the planar protect perk, and the two battle helmet perks that give 20% more durability. Maybe the song container. Then the rest of the tree is just: "Well, I have to spend my remaining points on something..."

Even for people that like the shield, they admit its useful for 2-3 fights, tops.

I don't use the commanders helm at all. Battle helms seemed better, or at least close enough that commanders isnt worth the slight extra hassle.

I get the beef talents for a rider, but skip the saddle. It really should have been a speed saddle alternate, as beefalo don't get her damage bonus.

With some slight tweaks I think it would be a good tree. Right now, I struggle to spend the last two points. Not because of too many choices, but because of a lack of viable ones.

[Vasz_]

Like others have said, I think it's pretty clear that Wigfrid's skill tree is bad, the alignmet skills are particularly disappointing for how utterly boring they are. I feel like no matter how strong a character is, they should have fun (not necessarily good) alignment skills to choose from. I hope the skill tree gets revisited in the future, but I'm not holding my breath

[abc59766]

Wigfrid's skill tree is so bad and utterly boring.

[hyoton123]

8 hours ago, cropo said:

Honest question here, is Wigfrid's skill tree really that bad? I personally think she got a really great skill tree. 

It’s fantastic IMO, although I think it really asks her to respec at least once because they’re swap skills or weak pre/post rifts. Which I think is good- if you aren’t going to swap, you have to think carefully about what you’re doing.

Beef inspiration let her do Shenanigans (punching bag, stingers); the spear gives her a huge powerspike and doesnt even require rift content to be turned on (and can veeeerrrry slowly dupe horns, i guess); shield is a ton of fun pre rift and occasionally even good; additional planar defense in good in general because flat reduction. Her saddle is underpowered and requires winter but is reasonable for the cost, and the alignment songs are bad solo but whatever, theyre reasonable in a group I guess. Also resurrection song. Commanders helm is fun and and pretty cheap knockback resist for beefalo players, or taking out frustrations on the crappy werepig. (lol)

A lot of the tree’s power is in the unlocked spear true, but you can get it early enough in a world with plenty of game left to play, especially pre rift where you get big electrical numbers. New players also don’t need a cc/afw kill on the account, which a lot of the skill trees benefit from.