azTuT Posted November 23, 2024 Share Posted November 23, 2024 The lowquality updates (even feeding ****) during this period - Valkyrie Skill Tree, Shadow Claws, Shark Shadow Monsters, an increasing number of uninspiring Flying Monsters, and nauseating Otters and Cave Snakes that far outweigh their effects - are truly indescribable. Valkyrie Skill Tree is what I would call the most garbage of famine, and even Fish Girl and Female Worker, I have infinite longing for Wendy's Skill Tree. Until today, when I woke up, Wendy's player's previously unsettled heart finally died. In contrast, Valkyrie's Skill Tree is even terrifyingly practical, even if it is copied directly. Even a cow training acceleration and potion box are not like this. The sentence is:, Is a designer with a tough mouth really playing Wendy? If Vila's skill tree makes her a fire magic player, then Wendy's skill tree is just making players fire up with limited imagination, so there's no need to cram skills, even if it's copied by the community? Has this skill tree really achieved the goal of increasing intensity, enhancing fun, and improving gaming experience? Holy medicine jar, Abby attacks shadow monsters, increases Abby's immunity/maximum life, and enjoys two kinds of potions at the same time, more and more useful potions (sisters Heart to Heart - Wendy's multiplier temporarily changed to 1.1, but can't summon sister; protect sister - Wendy will resist damage for sister, etc.) Such a vast creative space, yet you have written a pile of garbage A series of small surprises can easily obtain more mourning glory, which can be optional. It can be considered a small optimization. With careful planning, you don't need too many potions on weekdays, but why can't you click on assistance like Okako to directly obtain mourning glory? The key is to spend three skill points (Wolfgang only needs to spend one), but when you see Wendy's other skills, you will find that Wendy's skill points are terrifying (there is nothing good about them at all). Secondly, the duration of the elixir increases (limited to one day's duration). Firstly, the elixir lasts for one day is already sufficient to deal with most situations, and the large blood potion that really needs to extend the duration does not have any gain. Moreover, Wendy's commonly used potions are very cheap. It is known that when the skill points of the Little Scare series are full, one Little Scare can receive 20 mourning glories. So why don't I make more bottles of stackable potions? It is completely unnecessary to click on the third item or the urn series. After clicking on it, Abi's maximum health can be increased to 700, and the sister's recovery speed next to the urn can be accelerated, as well as the fear aura can be reduced. It cannot be denied that Abi's additional 100 health is useful, but is the "sister next to the urn" recovery speed really meaningful? Given the simplification of obtaining mourning glory, why don't I just apply medicine? Moreover, the urn of ashes is not portable (why not?). What I want to complain about most is that the aura of fear is reduced! Designer, are you really playing Wendy? The Queen Bee can be considered Wendy's best boss to fight. Fighting Bull and Bee Crown to fight bosses won't lose San at all. Reducing the Fear Halo is almost a negative benefit for Wendy, and it's necessary to increase Abby's health limit. Isn't that clear? Feeding feces. Fourth, petal purification and flower armor are not affected by the demon flower's descent San. May I ask? What about my overflowing queen bee crown and the demon flower made control san factory? The purification of petals is even more hilarious. I spent nine oxen and two tigers rubbing everything on the ground? Sisters's feelings can span death, so it is more useful and more appropriate to turn ordinary flowers into devil flowers or flowers into butterflies (you can quickly lift the butterfly saddle and brush naughty value)? And flowers and clothes, let sister give Wendy some protection??? I didn't read it wrong. Was it Wendy OK who was hit by the boss a few times? It is said that wearing it can save you from eating or prevent you from getting too cold or too hot. I can only say that it is in one direction, but this clothing takes up the body barrier and has a 15% deceleration, which is really practical. After resembling teammates/oneself, it can transform into a ghost and continue to attack for about 1 minute (the damage varies at different time periods, but the highest night does not exceed 30). May I ask? Bring a bunch of Rebirth Talisman to scratch the boss? 6、 The most humorous little girl who excavates graves can dig graves (similar to tree branches, picked up in the inventory and not stackable), build graves by herself, but only on the skeleton (further easy to obtain mourning glory, clicking on the "Little Scare" column can bring up to 20 at a time, it's really not that lacking), decorate the monument with three petals, and during the decoration period, demon flowers will be generated every period of time (picking will generate the next one, decoration will fall in a few days, and demon flowers are basically useless), summon ghosts (neutral to players), almost impossible to skip classes, need to improve the previous planting, and it's very fragile and will be killed in seconds, at most brush rabbits and pigs (it seems that some factories need to) In short, it's useless, Wishing Kore's tombstone skin great success (doge seven, sister's skill, there are three, the first one is to make Abi follow closely and eliminate the enemy's hatred towards Abi (useful but not much, because if Abi attacks again, this effect will be ineffective); The second one - Abi sprint, allowing Abi to charge to the designated position. Some people say there was damage from a regular attack, but it was not detected in actual testing (it may also be judged to be relatively small, and due to the perspective, it is not as effective as the Valkyrie, and Abi is already an AOE); The third Abi intimidates nearby ordinary creatures, as the saying goes, Abi is not AOE. Intimidating and running around is actually troublesome, with unclear meaning (hitting the key point, these three skills share a CD, which is not fast in about 6 seconds). 8. Moon affinity, sister gains up to 5 points of surface defense, which can be used to make potions to give sister a huge 5 points of surface damage (at this time, using other potions will lose these 5 points of damage). The highest playability is - Moon Circle can make sister transform into Moon Spirit form, damage x10, attack frequency decreases and becomes a single body (if you want to transform back, you can only wait until the moon is dark), and the vulnerable buff cannot be hung up (some people have developed it, saying they are standing next to it). Watching my older sister fight, she keeps using big drugs like EMMM (some say it's convenient for newbies to fight bosses, but in daily life, it's more like frogs, dogs, and spiders. My older sister's sprint skill CD is too long to rely on; Why don't we have an additional potion that can transform our sister into a Moon Spirit form for a period of time, and the material needs to be obtained in the early stage of Moe Xin, otherwise it's meaningless? 9. Shadow affinity, killing "once" (once! No matter how many murders) in the backpack will cause Abi to kill 30 planes and 50 ordinary AOEs. Can fighting really take care of these? You can also make a bottle of medication that increases the duration of the vulnerable buff. Shouldn't this medication be given to the Moon Line? In summary, I don't know what happened to this skill tree. The pain points (Wendy's own weakness, sister's low fault tolerance, and limited practical potions) still exist. Even the worst Valkyrie skill tree before has a horn jar and a new weapon, the Thunder Spear (which can be called the most versatile weapon), as well as a reduced commander helmet for repelling attacks. The five point plane defense combined with her own damage reduction is also fine. Please make sure to completely redo Wendy's skill tree and optimize Valkyrie's skill tree 新建 Microsoft Word 文档 (2).docx Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160981-completely-redo-wendys-skill-tree/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyoton123 Posted November 23, 2024 Share Posted November 23, 2024 lol Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160981-completely-redo-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1759835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacco Posted November 24, 2024 Share Posted November 24, 2024 Bro's yappin' king. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160981-completely-redo-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1760439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyjs Posted November 24, 2024 Share Posted November 24, 2024 2 hours ago, Sacco said: 兄弟是个狂吠的国王。 The guy with the dog's avatar is talking about someone else's dog barking Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160981-completely-redo-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1760531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacco Posted November 24, 2024 Share Posted November 24, 2024 Just now, cyjs said: The guy with the dog's avatar is talking about someone else's dog barking bro please, it's not even fun... Instead tell me some arguments to your favour Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160981-completely-redo-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1760534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyjs Posted November 24, 2024 Share Posted November 24, 2024 Just now, Sacco said: 兄弟,拜托,这根本不好玩…… 相反,请告诉我一些对你有利的论据 Your comments are hateful, I'm just responding to you Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160981-completely-redo-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1760535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacco Posted November 24, 2024 Share Posted November 24, 2024 1 minute ago, cyjs said: Your comments are hateful, I'm just responding to you no, it's just for the funny. In these days i've seen too many posts of people who just yap about how bad wendy skill tree is and start insulting the devs. I didn't even understand what he's trying to say, yea i know translators aren't the best, but i can't do anything about it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160981-completely-redo-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1760538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyjs Posted November 24, 2024 Share Posted November 24, 2024 1小时前,萨科说: 不,这只是为了搞笑。 这些天我看到了太多的帖子,人们只是大喊大叫温迪技能树有多糟糕,然后开始侮辱开发人员。 我什至不明白他想说什么,是的,我知道翻译不是最好的,但我对此无能为力。 So many Chinese players have put forward constructive suggestions, but you choose to ignore them? Do you not understand or are you just pretending to be confused? We risked language barriers to express ourselves only for the characters we loved. Many people are not good at English and can only express brief attitudes, but my friend, you belittle our efforts because of someone's remarks in the forum that were taken out of context. You make fun of us and you still want me to treat you in a peaceful manner? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160981-completely-redo-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1760543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacco Posted November 24, 2024 Share Posted November 24, 2024 3 minutes ago, cyjs said: Tanti giocatori cinesi hanno avanzato suggerimenti costruttivi, ma tu scegli di ignorarli? Non capisci o fai solo finta di essere confuso? Abbiamo rischiato le barriere linguistiche per esprimerci solo per i personaggi che amavamo. Molte persone non sono brave in inglese e possono solo esprimere brevi atteggiamenti, ma amico mio, tu sminuisci i nostri sforzi a causa delle osservazioni di qualcuno nel forum che sono state estrapolate dal contesto. Ci prendi in giro e vuoi comunque che ti tratti in modo pacifico? i am not taking joke of you. It's just that a lot of chinese players lately treated this skill tree as something horrible, and they went full rage. Some made good feedbacks, but others... I honestly got bored of people crying for a game... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160981-completely-redo-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1760547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudf Posted November 24, 2024 Share Posted November 24, 2024 4 minutes ago, Sacco said: got bored of people crying for a game Well, I'm not saying rage and insulting is justified. But a lot of people have over 5k hours or even more playing time. They did invest a lot time and emotion into the game. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160981-completely-redo-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1760551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyjs Posted November 24, 2024 Share Posted November 24, 2024 1 hour ago, Sacco said: i am not taking joke of you. It's just that a lot of chinese players lately treated this skill tree as something horrible, and they went full rage. Some made good feedbacks, but others... I honestly got bored of people crying for a game... We Chinese players have paid a lot for the continued operation of this game, so please don’t ignore us, brother. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160981-completely-redo-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1760605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mima_ Posted November 25, 2024 Share Posted November 25, 2024 15 hours ago, cyjs said: We Chinese players have paid a lot for the continued operation of this game, so please don’t ignore us, brother. is this why you make the other post ? your voice is not ignored but it might if you put something like . "we great number country will ruin this developer if we dont get what we want" might not resulting the respect that you desired .... On 11/23/2024 at 10:13 AM, azTuT said: Such a vast creative space, yet you have written a pile of garbage this is so unnecessary, to see it have its own paragraph make other who at first want to try to read that long post stop and ignore it instead .. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160981-completely-redo-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1761041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel867 Posted November 26, 2024 Share Posted November 26, 2024 17 hours ago, mima_ said: is this why you make the other post ? your voice is not ignored but it might if you put something like . "we great number country will ruin this developer if we dont get what we want" might not resulting the respect that you desired .... this is so unnecessary, to see it have its own paragraph make other who at first want to try to read that long post stop and ignore it instead .. We spend money on this game and have our rights to argue and give suggestions. And we cannot ruin the developers in any way, but we can decide to give negative comments on steam and no longer buy skins or DLCs. Apologize if we are acting rude, we played this game for thousands of hours and we don't think we are respected with this design. Developers are not Gods, and they are not doing charity activities, they are paid to do this. If they are dummies and assume all players are, they should be scolded. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160981-completely-redo-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1761729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
azTuT Posted November 26, 2024 Author Share Posted November 26, 2024 17 hours ago, mima_ said: 这就是你写另一篇帖子的原因吗? 你的声音不会被忽略,但如果你把 .“如果我们得不到我们想要的东西,我们伟大的国家会毁了这个开发商”可能不会带来你想要的尊重...... 这太没有必要了,看到它有自己的段落让其他人一开始想尝试阅读那个长篇帖子停止并忽略它.. I don't know if the machine doesn't accurately convey what we want to express, or if you pretend to be confused At least 50% of Chinese players have invested a lot of time and most of them love this game deeply, hoping that it will develop better and better. When we seriously provide demands, what we get is censoring and ignoring, then we will denounce it What if I think I'm describing the truth? Wendy's skill tree doesn't see the sincerity of the designer, and it is very impractical, very hip pulling, and even makes me feel that the designer doesn't have a deep understanding of Wendy's role Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160981-completely-redo-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1761738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyjs Posted November 26, 2024 Share Posted November 26, 2024 让我们使用中文好吗,让那些眼睛不好的先生看看什么叫只会抱怨,我们明明不断的在提建设性的文章而视而不见,Let us use Chinese, okay? Let those gentlemen with bad eyesight see what it means to complain. We are clearly turning a blind eye while constantly mentioning constructive articles. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160981-completely-redo-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1761790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mima_ Posted November 26, 2024 Share Posted November 26, 2024 7 hours ago, Castiel867 said: We spend money on this game and have our rights to argue and give suggestions. we all do spend money on this game surely and noone here stopping you to give you feed back what really happen here is simply an interaction that sparked because u decided you need to be so arrogant by placing things to say "we spend money and time on this game so klei should listen to us" what everybody hear is "oh we pay you so i own u and u should be listening to us" i bet that slot of people DO spend money on this game and i many here even play DS series from very beginning as well and noone really think klei owe us anything this doesnt mean that all of your suggestion need to be implemented and doesnt mean that all of your suggestion need to be fully supported by everyone in the room and being supported doesnt mean it will make it into the game because its simply need to be align to game vision. not get support on any post you made is not a bad thing people simply have different opinion from you and that normal you are the one who simply differentiate yourself and another forumite by saying "our community" "our country" "let us,chinese,okay?" noone really think any of ur post was from outsider. but really we might think so if u keep boxing your self from the outside u the only one thinking that "your people" that hate how wendy tree were there might be alot of people think that it should be tweaked but we simply make post, state out opinion and let the developer works. u guys keep yapping on how you dont get heard when its simply weekend and noone working on it not even a patch here yet constructive opinion with intro oh i pay you so you are my slave not really a constructive post Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160981-completely-redo-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1761969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lio516 Posted November 26, 2024 Share Posted November 26, 2024 2024 年 11 月 25 日凌晨 1:02,Sacco 说: 他们只是大喊大叫 wendy 技能树有多糟糕,然后开始侮辱开发者。 There are a lot of posts that say what Wendy's players are suffering and want, but you don't read it Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160981-completely-redo-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1761978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacco Posted November 26, 2024 Share Posted November 26, 2024 34 minutes ago, lio516 said: There are a lot of posts that say what Wendy's players are suffering and want, but you don't read it I read a ton of them, but a lot of them are pretty stupid Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160981-completely-redo-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1762002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lio516 Posted November 26, 2024 Share Posted November 26, 2024 27 分钟前,Sacco 说: 我读了很多,但很多都非常愚蠢 好吧,让我们看看我的。希望你能感受到 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160981-completely-redo-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1762020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sy Posted November 26, 2024 Share Posted November 26, 2024 让-我-们-说-中-文- 看一大段长英文太费劲了,更别说是机翻的版本,如果你有原文,可以附在后面。 即使是中文,如果要考虑可读性,添加一些小标题或者尝试更多的分段吧。 Let's speak Chinese! It's hard to read such long article, further more a translation, try to attach the original text at the end. Add subheadings or break it up into more paragraphs to enhance readability even for Chinese text. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160981-completely-redo-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1762088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacco Posted November 26, 2024 Share Posted November 26, 2024 2 hours ago, lio516 said: Ok, diamo un'occhiata al mio. spero che tu possa sentirlo i am not just talking about your opinion... bruh I'm saying in general. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/160981-completely-redo-wendys-skill-tree/#findComment-1762129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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