Mariolo Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 Cooking 2 Deep fried steaks for 3200kcal of meat gives you 1600kcal more than barbeque for 4 kg of tallow. We can convert 1 kg of tallow to 400kcal. Making fish tacos this is 240kcal/kg. With 1 kg of tallow you can make 2800kcal of pemmican, so 1200kcal per kg (I'm not comparing this with barbeque as this recipe has other uses) and making squash fries adds 1200 kcals for 1 kg as well A spigot seal produces 50 kg of tallow when they die. So 20000kcal of Deep fried steak, 12000 of fish taco or 60000 penmican or squash fries if you can provide the other resources A happy spigot seal reproduces with a 17%/cycle reproduction rate, the same as a Hatch, they produce 15 eggs in total for 750kg of tallow or 7.5 kg/cycle. This means that a single seal can provide 3000kcal/cycle of Deep fried steak, 1800kcal/cycle of fish tacos, or if you cook everything into penmican or squash fries 9000kcal per cycle. For steak, you need 800kcal of meat per kg of tallow, or 4500kcal per seal. You'd need 9.5 hatches to match a single seal, but adding tallow to the meat you are already producing increases its efficiency by 50% (making in into barbeque increases its calories by 25%, and making it into steak by 75%). So 8 hatches being cooked into barbeque produces 4800kcal per cycle, but into steak 6720kcal/cycle. A 40% increase with the upkeep of a single seal. This is the value of the new critter. One seal can provide tallow to cook 67.5 plume squash plants In terms of etanol, a fully fed seal provides 40kg/cycle of etanol or 66.6g/s. This is slightly worse than the 70g/s of an abor tree. To keep a petroleum generator running full time you'd need 30 seals, which means every seal produces 66.6 watts. If you want to provide your power through ethanol arbor tres ar better imo. One seal can sustain 2.6 plum squash plants, which provide for a little over 3 Bammoth. You could also feed 2 nosh sprouts. This is a better use case for the ethanol as it's probably easier to set up than a big arbor tree farm and has less heat production and byproducts to manage. The power draw of a sunlampo to provide nectar is intense. I've estimated that with the natural light of the map the plants would produce at an average of 43.75% efficiency. You would need 10 plants for a ranch of 8 critters, which I don't think you can feed. If you want to use the natural light I'd recommend 7 trees with 6 critters TLDR: Spigot seals can increase the efficiency of your food production and are the easiest source of ethanol to grow the new crops and ranch Bammoth with minimal resource intake Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157546-spigot-seal-math/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
goetzjam Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 Is it possible to provide enough light from shinebugs for the plants to grow? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157546-spigot-seal-math/#findComment-1729366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
imazined Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 19 minutes ago, goetzjam said: Is it possible to provide enough light from shinebugs for the plants to grow? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157546-spigot-seal-math/#findComment-1729371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goetzjam Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 First those are limited, second this footprint takes up too much space, you effectively half the total number of animals in the ranch, if you do that you might as well mix ranch? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157546-spigot-seal-math/#findComment-1729379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
imazined Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 Sure they are limited but still there is lot of them. And for the footprint they don't need pedestals. You can put them on the floor and later with window tiles it could be a neat replacement. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157546-spigot-seal-math/#findComment-1729384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goetzjam Posted June 26, 2024 Share Posted June 26, 2024 13 minutes ago, imazined said: Sure they are limited but still there is lot of them. And for the footprint they don't need pedestals. You can put them on the floor and later with window tiles it could be a neat replacement. Ok this might work and is probably what they are designed for. I think this setup might work well, as far as those plants go, I think I'm going to put them in planter boxes instead and run the ranch with mesh tiles to easily capture the liquid from the creatures. Would be really cool if we could create these somehow. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157546-spigot-seal-math/#findComment-1729385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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