I Return Again, Morning Star Recharge

[Mr Giggio]

1 hour ago, BeeClops said:

It is objectively the best weapon in many situations early to mid game,

Except the fact that even hambat outclass this cuz "the many situations" means raining what does not happen that often but spring and we need stuff done every day u can't be waiting for rain and if u co op with wicker:

- synergy should be a good thing;

- the weapon u use doing fights is redundant, game can't handle multiplayer damage regardless it's too much even for bosses if all of them know what they r doing is always easy what makes it redundant if weapon has some bigger numbers or not (except wolf and max cuz that guy can get ridiculous numbers and caging when multiplayer just kicks a dead dog)

10k hours here by the way so no "u don't play enough" card please

[arubaro]

6 minutes ago, Mr Giggio said:

Except the fact that even hambat outclass this cuz "the many situations" means raining what does not happen that often but spring and we need stuff done every day u can't be waiting for rain and if u co op with wicker:

It rains during spring so you can do other stuff while waiting. In every run, except with warly. I do BQ in spring to take advantage of this weapon 

Also the caves are most winters permanently wet which means more dps for FW and toadstool at a cheaper cost (because is cheap even if the other user thinks other wise)

As wurt i like a lot to bundle scorchfish and clean the ruins with a single morning star

Is a niche weapon as a niche weapon does his job which is being the best option in the scenario designed for it

Precisely the problem i have with the new rift year is how you can get more dps than these niche weapons in any scenario. Choosing gear was one of the funnier things for me from this game but now seems like we will get the same treatment of every other unispired rpg camouflaged as sandbox

[Mr Giggio]

1 minute ago, arubaro said:

most winters permanently wet

Depending the day it rains FW already killed specially with the DST alone mod which is honestly IMO a must have due not as good optimization in the game. It goes around day 30 ish and that day u need to be back surface to not mess clops spawn unless u went out your way to get gloomer

 

That's why I didn't include caves

[arubaro]

4 minutes ago, Mr Giggio said:

Depending the day it rains FW already killed specially with the DST alone mod which is honestly IMO a must have due not as good optimization in the game. It goes around day 30 ish and that day u need to be back surface to not mess clops spawn unless u went out your way to get gloomer

 

That's why I didn't include caves

But the weapon, if works well, shouldn't be balanced arround people that kills FW that soon and never again

You can kill FW multiple times and you can kill fw in day 30, 40 or 100000 and for that the weapon works like a charm

[Mr Giggio]

Just now, arubaro said:

But the weapon, if works well, shouldn't be balanced arround people that kills FW that soon and never again

Fair but neither in people that change their whole route just to make the weapon work. It's gameplay style decisions nonetheless cuz out that it s not that big of the deal as a weapon and the whole point in the post is -it ain't broken at the point we shouldn't be able to recharge it using Winona perks, what I agree with OP

[Gotheran]

1 hour ago, BeeClops said:

do you also hold dark swords at all times once you craft them? Isn't that a huge disadvantage compared to a ham bat? 

No, but I don't hotswap it to save on sanity or durability once i am in a combat scenario, once i have a target i equip it fight and unequip when the fight is over and not before. And i prepare sanity restoration for using a weapon with a large disadvantage like that, dark sword is well balanced for what it is in cost and return on investment. Even in the season it is most relevant for the morningstar will fail to survive a whole night of use as a lightsource all while you lose out on the potential damage that time wasted, no other weapon in the game has damage that goes to waste because you weren't actively slapping something while holding it, save maybe the hambat but that lasts 10 whole days without preserving effects. So you get MORE damage out of a hambat during winter due to it spoiling slower but the morningstar gets no benefit in spring with all the free electricity dropping from the sky?

32 minutes ago, arubaro said:

Is a niche weapon as a niche weapon does his job which is being the best option in the scenario designed for it

It does its job only in the bare minimum sense, its easily outclassed by dropping a lantern for light and using a stronger weapon, and adding volt goat jelly if you want electric bonus damage without dealing with the excessive gold stone and nitre cost for a spicy torch whose damage is only relevant 1/4th of the time.

[Castiliano]

yes

[arubaro]

5 hours ago, Mr Giggio said:

Fair but neither in people that change their whole route just to make the weapon work. It's gameplay style decisions nonetheless cuz out that it s not that big of the deal as a weapon and the whole point in the post is -it ain't broken at the point we shouldn't be able to recharge it using Winona perks, what I agree with OP

Im not against winona having this perk of recharging it, just pointing that the item is great. Not expensive,  designed for people with ridiculous levels of skill or that should be good in any scenario 

[Radicaljoe]

We lost, it's joever.