Jakepeng99 Posted Sunday at 09:38 AM Share Posted Sunday at 09:38 AM This would make WX’s drones better and also fix one of the biggest problems that planar damage has introduced to the game. 1. Now WX drones use this modifier, so they actually scale into late games planar damage without having to attach any planar stuff. 2. Wolfgang and Wigfrid could use these modifiers. For Wolfgang, his 5 skills that just increase planar damage should be removed since they are on purpouse filler skills. 3. Warbis armour should use this. Once Wanda gets some sort of planar damage, the headgear can be argued to be one of the weakest riff items despite having the highest cost of the armours. 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171195-add-a-type-of-damage-modifier-that-increases-both-planar-damage-and-physical-damage/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADN69 Posted Sunday at 10:47 AM Share Posted Sunday at 10:47 AM Is not a damage multiplier. Is a vex that allies 25% increase damage to that target. Meaning that target takes more damage from all sources. Including players and summons. And is way better than damage multiplier. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171195-add-a-type-of-damage-modifier-that-increases-both-planar-damage-and-physical-damage/#findComment-1864588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeNibble Posted Sunday at 11:21 AM Share Posted Sunday at 11:21 AM Bring back the old affinity! 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171195-add-a-type-of-damage-modifier-that-increases-both-planar-damage-and-physical-damage/#findComment-1864595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple49856 Posted Sunday at 02:54 PM Share Posted Sunday at 02:54 PM 4 hours ago, ADN69 said: Is not a damage multiplier. Is a vex that allies 25% increase damage to that target. Meaning that target takes more damage from all sources. Including players and summons. And is way better than damage multiplier. This is incorrect wx78’s shadow whips never did this 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171195-add-a-type-of-damage-modifier-that-increases-both-planar-damage-and-physical-damage/#findComment-1864612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted Sunday at 07:02 PM Author Share Posted Sunday at 07:02 PM 4 hours ago, Apple49856 said: This is incorrect wx78’s shadow whips never did this Yeah im not sure where the misinfo keeps coming from. It never worked for followers, or other players. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171195-add-a-type-of-damage-modifier-that-increases-both-planar-damage-and-physical-damage/#findComment-1864642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doritosdamafia Posted Sunday at 07:17 PM Share Posted Sunday at 07:17 PM 14 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said: Yeah im not sure where the misinfo keeps coming from. It never worked for followers, or other players. it's because the original vfx give the vibe of being something more than it actual effect Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171195-add-a-type-of-damage-modifier-that-increases-both-planar-damage-and-physical-damage/#findComment-1864646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted Sunday at 08:43 PM Author Share Posted Sunday at 08:43 PM 1 hour ago, doritosdamafia said: it's because the original vfx give the vibe of being something more than it actual effect It never actually did that and lots of people act like it was. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171195-add-a-type-of-damage-modifier-that-increases-both-planar-damage-and-physical-damage/#findComment-1864657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doritosdamafia Posted Sunday at 08:51 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:51 PM 3 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said: It never actually did that and lots of people act like it was. exactly, the old vfx don't looked like "this creature takes more damage" and thanks to that people was spectating to have something more than 25% bonus damage to wx, when i first noticed the vfx it give the impression of being more of a support effect instead of more damage Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171195-add-a-type-of-damage-modifier-that-increases-both-planar-damage-and-physical-damage/#findComment-1864658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siren11 Posted Sunday at 08:57 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:57 PM 1 hour ago, Jakepeng99 said: Yeah im not sure where the misinfo keeps coming from. It never worked for followers, or other players. I’m glad to hear this. 25% damage is fine for WX alone, but giving it to every player and follower is just ridiculous. I hope Klei doesn’t listen to the people asking for this. For comparison, Abigail’s vex is only 10% plus 10 planar damage with Cursed Vexation. Once Klei fixes the issue with drones breaking too fast, WX would be way too strong for a character who shouldn’t be combat or team oriented. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171195-add-a-type-of-damage-modifier-that-increases-both-planar-damage-and-physical-damage/#findComment-1864660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doritosdamafia Posted Sunday at 09:05 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:05 PM (edited) 7 minutes ago, Siren11 said: I’m glad to hear this. 25% damage is fine for WX alone, but giving it to every player and follower is just ridiculous. I hope Klei doesn’t listen to the people asking for this. For comparison, Abigail’s vex is only 10% plus 10 planar damage with Cursed Vexation. Once Klei fixes the issue with drones breaking too fast, WX would be way too strong for a character who shouldn’t be combat or team oriented. arent her vex a plus 15%? i remember in the jakeosaurus video being 15% Edited Sunday at 09:05 PM by doritosdamafia Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171195-add-a-type-of-damage-modifier-that-increases-both-planar-damage-and-physical-damage/#findComment-1864661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siren11 Posted Sunday at 09:08 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:08 PM 1 minute ago, doritosdamafia said: arent her vex a plus 15%? i remember in the jakeosaurus video being 15% Nope, it’s definitely only 10%. Even the wiki says this, and doing the math (0.75 x 1.4 x 1.1 = 1.155) will confirm Wendy’s true damage. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171195-add-a-type-of-damage-modifier-that-increases-both-planar-damage-and-physical-damage/#findComment-1864663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doritosdamafia Posted Sunday at 09:11 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:11 PM 2 minutes ago, Siren11 said: Nope, it’s definitely only 10%. Even the wiki says this, and doing the math (0.75 x 1.4 x 1.1 = 1.155) will confirm Wendy’s true damage. thats the reason for me remember it as 15% Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171195-add-a-type-of-damage-modifier-that-increases-both-planar-damage-and-physical-damage/#findComment-1864664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siren11 Posted Sunday at 09:17 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:17 PM 2 minutes ago, doritosdamafia said: thats the reason for me remember it as 15% Ah, I see. With Wendy’s 40% buff and the 10% buff that everyone (including Wendy) gets, she does get a 15% buff (actually a 54% buff, but it’s 15% when you take her lower damage into account). I was referring only to other players and followers, since a lot of people have been saying that everyone should get a 25% buff from WX’s ability (and many people suggested that everyone should get a planar bonus on top of that). WX should get the 25% buff and some extra planar damage, but it shouldn’t be extended to other players and followers. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171195-add-a-type-of-damage-modifier-that-increases-both-planar-damage-and-physical-damage/#findComment-1864665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doritosdamafia Posted Sunday at 09:23 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:23 PM 1 minute ago, Siren11 said: Ah, I see. With Wendy’s 40% buff and the 10% buff that everyone (including Wendy) gets, she does get a 15% buff (actually a 54% buff, but it’s 15% when you take her lower damage into account). I was referring only to other players and followers, since a lot of people have been saying that everyone should get a 25% buff from WX’s ability (and many people suggested that everyone should get a planar bonus on top of that). WX should get the 25% buff and some extra planar damage, but it shouldn’t be extended to other players and followers. yea, if this was a warly skill tree i would agree to make other be able to receive the benef of the debuff, but for wx it don't make sense, the old vfx was too much of a overkill that give the impression of being something more than just a 25% bonus damage, for that reason people must think it is for everyone and not wx exclusive Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171195-add-a-type-of-damage-modifier-that-increases-both-planar-damage-and-physical-damage/#findComment-1864666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siren11 Posted Sunday at 09:28 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:28 PM (edited) 13 minutes ago, doritosdamafia said: yea, if this was a warly skill tree i would agree to make other be able to receive the benef of the debuff, but for wx it don't make sense, the old vfx was too much of a overkill that give the impression of being something more than just a 25% bonus damage, for that reason people must think it is for everyone and not wx exclusive Exactly! To me, Wendy, Warly, Wigfrid, and Wortox are the big support characters. WX and Willow always struck me as the more “selfish” characters. Willow’s skill tree reflects this almost annoying well. WX would be even less likely to share any of their new toys and abilities. I never actually saw the old vfx. It sounds really cool, but it shouldn’t have given people the wrong idea. Edited Sunday at 09:36 PM by Siren11 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171195-add-a-type-of-damage-modifier-that-increases-both-planar-damage-and-physical-damage/#findComment-1864667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrec Posted Sunday at 09:34 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:34 PM 4 minutes ago, Siren11 said: Exactly! To me, Wendy, Warly, Wigfrid, and Wortox are the big support characters. WX and Willow always struck me as the more “selfish” characters. Willow skill trees reflects this almost annoying well. WX would be even less likely to share any of their new toys and abilities. I never actually saw the old vfx. It sounds really cool, but it shouldn’t have given people the wrong idea. The old vfx was just a dark whip nothing more people just really want wx to have everything after they did a small character rework with his curcuits which no one ever seems to mention they just keep saying he got nerf 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171195-add-a-type-of-damage-modifier-that-increases-both-planar-damage-and-physical-damage/#findComment-1864670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doritosdamafia Posted Sunday at 09:38 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:38 PM (edited) 9 minutes ago, Siren11 said: Exactly! To me, Wendy, Warly, Wigfrid, and Wortox are the big support characters. WX and Willow always struck me as the more “selfish” characters. Willow skill trees reflects this almost annoying well. WX would be even less likely to share any of their new toys and abilities. I never actually saw the old vfx. It sounds really cool, but it shouldn’t have given people the wrong idea. the old vfx was a shadow tentacle touching anything that was in a range of 2,5 tiles of you, making a "meaty" sound Edited Sunday at 09:38 PM by doritosdamafia 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171195-add-a-type-of-damage-modifier-that-increases-both-planar-damage-and-physical-damage/#findComment-1864671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siren11 Posted Sunday at 09:39 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:39 PM 2 minutes ago, Jarrec said: The old vfx was just a dark whip nothing more people just really want wx to have everything after they did a small character rework with his curcuits which no one ever seems to mention they just keep saying he got nerf Oh that sounds really cool! Idk why people would think it would be a debuff for everyone though. I’ll give people the benefit of the doubt though and say they probably don’t realize how game-changing a 25% damage buff (plus the suggested 10+ additional planar damage) for everyone would be. Abigail’s 10% + 10 planar damage with Cursed Vexation is already shockingly good in a team. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/171195-add-a-type-of-damage-modifier-that-increases-both-planar-damage-and-physical-damage/#findComment-1864672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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