TeaY Posted December 29, 2024 Share Posted December 29, 2024 Because my ability is limited and I can only use translation software to speak my own words, so I will speak briefly. Thanks to Famine's company over the years, I chose Wendy for my first visit to the Eternal Continent, and I know that a lot of people have expressed different opinions about her update recently, and even had a heated discussion, most of which is about "intensity", but I would like to make a few suggestions about her life experience, which I hope will be taken into account in her skill update: 因为我的能力有限,只能借助翻译软件来说说自己的话,所以我简单的说。感谢饥荒多年来的陪伴,我第一次来到永恒大陆,就选择了温蒂这个小姑娘,我知道最近很多人对她的更新发表了不同的观点,甚至进行了过激的讨论,大家多是对“强度”的讨论,但我想对她的生活体验说几点建议,希望这些能被考虑到她的技能更新中: 1. "Little scares" can be placed around the urn to continuously produce "mourning". 1. “小惊吓”可以放置在骨灰盒周围,不断产生“哀悼荣耀”。 Reason: After living on the eternal continent for so long, "Little Scare" should not wander around and feel sad, Wendy should give it a "home" as a happy "little Scare" will give "mourning honor" as a reward and friendship witness. And this can increase the way to get "mourning honor", keep the link of finding toys, if you want to get more "mourning honor", Wendy and "Little Scare" can continue to go out to find more toys. 理由:在永恒的大陆上生活了这么久,“小惊吓”不应该四处游荡,感到悲伤,温迪应该给它一个“家”作为快乐的“小惊吓”将给予“哀悼荣誉”作为奖励和友谊的见证。并且这样可以增加获得“哀悼荣誉”的途径,保留寻找玩具的设定,如果你想获得更多的“哀悼荣耀”,温蒂和“小惊吓”可以继续出去寻找更多的玩具。 2."Demon Flower" can be combined with mourning glory into "Moon Flower" 2.“恶魔花瓣”可以与哀悼荣耀合成为“月花” Reason: I think Abigail wanted the urn to be filled with petals Wendy had prepared for herself all along, and the constant supply of moonflowers seemed a bit cumbersome, requiring planting trees, cutting them down, catching butterflies, and planting them again. If you change the first "demon petal" into an ordinary petal into a "moon flower", with the current skills, you can have a better experience, of course, but also retain the setting around the tomb can produce "demon petals". So can all three aspects be connected? 理由:我想”阿比盖尔“希望骨灰盒里是一直都有温蒂为自己准备的花瓣,”月花“的持续供应似乎有些繁琐,需要种树,砍树,捕捉蝴蝶,然后再次种树。如果把第一次的”恶魔花瓣“转换为普通花瓣变成转换为”月花“,配合现在的技能,可以有更好的体验,当然还要保留坟墓周围可以产生”恶魔花瓣“的设定。这样三个方面是不是都可以联系起来了? 3. "Shadow Abigail" gets a certain boost when Wendy kills small animals in battle, not just in the backpack 3.当温蒂在战斗中杀死小动物时,”暗影阿比盖尔“获得一定的强化,而不只是在背包中杀死 Reason: See you say that this setting is a tribute to the single Wendy, but in the single, Wendy also killed the small animal in the battle, right? So if you have this setting, "Shadow Abigail" gameplay will become interesting, and will reduce a lot of player friends "in the backpack constantly kill and resurrect" this setting 理由:看到你们说这项设定是致敬了单机的温蒂,但在单机中,温蒂也是在战斗中杀死了小动物不是吗?所以如果有了这样设定,”暗影阿比盖尔“的玩法将会变得有趣,而且会减少很多玩家朋友对”在背包不断杀死再复活“这个设定的不满 4. Keep the current setting of "Moon Abigail" with different damage at different times of the day, but restore the invincible setting during the attack 4.保留现在”月亮阿比盖尔“在一天中不同时段不同伤害的设定,但恢复攻击过程中无敌的设定 Reason: The different damage Settings at different times of the day are consistent with the original Abigail damage Settings, if you want Abigail to have good damage all the time, you can use the potion of "Shadow Universal Oil" on her (this is also the reason why the "Mourning Glory" acquisition was added earlier, because the easier and more stable acquisition of "Mourning Glory" can make the potion use more frequently). As for why I still want to retain the invincible state, it is because I found in the test suit that in the face of the boss, even if Abigail has a certain amount of damage reduction, it is still extremely easy to be killed by the boss, because Abigail is really easy to receive all the damage of the boss, I tried to use the big recovery potion on her, but Abigail's health was not enough to recover. So I also had a second idea: give Abigail a stealth invincibility status while using the Big Recovery Potion to restore her health (combined with the fact that Abigail's health is too low to leave the battle), and wait for her to recover before joining the battle 理由:在一天中不同时段伤害不同的设定符合原版阿比盖尔伤害的设定,如果想要阿比盖尔一直有不错的伤害,可以对她使用”暗影万金油“的药剂(这也是为什么前面要增加”哀悼荣耀“获取的原因,因为更容易且稳定获取”的哀悼荣耀“才能让药剂的使用更加频繁)。而至于为什么还要保留无敌状态,是因为我在测试服中发现,面对boss,即使阿比盖尔有了一定的减伤,但还是极其容易被boss打死,因为阿比盖尔真的很容易收到boss的全部伤害,我尝试过对她使用大恢复药剂,但阿比盖尔的血量根本来不及恢复,所以我也有第二中想法:在对阿比盖尔使用大回复药剂恢复血量期间,给阿比盖尔一个隐身无敌的状态(结合现在阿比盖尔血量过低会脱离战斗),等她恢复好以后再加入战斗 5. Lives killed by Wendy and Abigail drop "Mourning Glory", and bosses drop more when they are killed 5.被温蒂和阿比盖尔击杀的生命会掉落”哀悼荣耀“,且boss被击杀后会掉落更多 Reason: This is a combination of Wendy killing small animals and "Mourning Honor" acquisition, I think this is the most useful and best skill, I believe that many player friends do not use potions because of "Mourning Honor" acquisition, without "Mourning Honor", then all skills based on this are useless and disappointing. This can make the use of the potion quite convenient and make the use of the "potion" really a part of Wendy and Abigail, really really I want to achieve 理由:这是将温蒂杀死小动物的设定和”哀悼荣耀“获取途径的一个结合,我觉得这是最有用且最好的技能,我相信很多的玩家朋友都因为”哀悼荣耀“的获取方式不去使用药剂,如果没有”哀悼荣耀“,那基于此的所以技能都是没有用的,且令人失望的,这可以使药剂的使用相当方便,使”药剂“的使用真正成为温蒂和阿比盖尔的一部分,真的真的我很想实现 I really hope that we can all continue to get better, and I have a lot more to say, but for now that's all I want to say, thank you very much 我真的很希望我们都可以继续变得更好,我还有很多要说的,但目前这些是我最想表达出去的,十分感谢 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162862-suggestions-for-a-better-wendy-experience-%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E6%9B%B4%E5%A5%BD%E7%9A%84%E6%B8%A9%E8%92%82%E4%BD%93%E9%AA%8C%E7%9A%84%E5%BB%BA%E8%AE%AE/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee lol Posted December 29, 2024 Share Posted December 29, 2024 Famine-DST Little scare:pipspook demon petal:dark petal Mourning honor: mourning glory Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162862-suggestions-for-a-better-wendy-experience-%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E6%9B%B4%E5%A5%BD%E7%9A%84%E6%B8%A9%E8%92%82%E4%BD%93%E9%AA%8C%E7%9A%84%E5%BB%BA%E8%AE%AE/#findComment-1782858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
congrongfuguo Posted December 29, 2024 Share Posted December 29, 2024 关于哀悼荣耀:目前版本 每次帮助小幽灵大概可以得到20朵 之后可以通过移植坟墓来制作哀悼荣耀的工厂 所以我觉得其实药剂原料很充足 Regarding Mourning Glory: In the current version, each time you help the little ghost, you can get about 20 flowers. After that, you can transplant the tomb to create a Mourning Glory factory, so I think the medicinal ingredients are actually abundant Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162862-suggestions-for-a-better-wendy-experience-%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E6%9B%B4%E5%A5%BD%E7%9A%84%E6%B8%A9%E8%92%82%E4%BD%93%E9%AA%8C%E7%9A%84%E5%BB%BA%E8%AE%AE/#findComment-1782866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee lol Posted December 30, 2024 Share Posted December 30, 2024 1. I like to add interaction to pipspook and Wendy. 2. Dark petals should not be able to synthesize moon flowers, because the player tag is quite powerful, which is equivalent to getting the player tag for free. 3. It's troublesome to kill or murder animals in backpacks. I don't see any difference, especially in boss battles. As for ordinary mobs, Abi has done well enough. 4. I tend to let Gestalt continue to attack and temporarily have invincible frames in hidden mode. When her hp returns to more than 150, she will lose it, so that Gestalt is better than Shadow Abi, and will not op. 5. There is no need to let the killed animals drop MG. The pipspook mission is enough. On the contrary, we can use more mourning glory to synthesize creatures, such as synthesizing bees with bee stinges and 2 mourning glory, and synthesizing birds with feathers and 2 mourning glory to better link with shadow abi. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162862-suggestions-for-a-better-wendy-experience-%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E6%9B%B4%E5%A5%BD%E7%9A%84%E6%B8%A9%E8%92%82%E4%BD%93%E9%AA%8C%E7%9A%84%E5%BB%BA%E8%AE%AE/#findComment-1782944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catapult 2.0 Posted December 30, 2024 Share Posted December 30, 2024 15 hours ago, TeaY said: 5. Lives killed by Wendy and Abigail drop "Mourning Glory", and bosses drop more when they are killed Really need this, its drop probability can be very low Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162862-suggestions-for-a-better-wendy-experience-%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E6%9B%B4%E5%A5%BD%E7%9A%84%E6%B8%A9%E8%92%82%E4%BD%93%E9%AA%8C%E7%9A%84%E5%BB%BA%E8%AE%AE/#findComment-1782946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeaY Posted December 30, 2024 Author Share Posted December 30, 2024 22 hours ago, congrongfuguo said: 关于哀悼荣耀:目前版本 每次帮助小幽灵大概可以得到20朵 之后可以通过移植坟墓来制作哀悼荣耀的工厂 所以我觉得其实药剂原料很充足 Regarding Mourning Glory: In the current version, each time you help the little ghost, you can get about 20 flowers. After that, you can transplant the tomb to create a Mourning Glory factory, so I think the medicinal ingredients are actually abundant If you need a lot of potions, the repetition of the process will get boring. If you want the potions to really become a part of Wendy's game, you must ensure that the potions are positioned as a consumable, not a precious thing, so it is necessary to ensure that the stable and easy acquisition of the mourning glory 帮助小幽灵找玩具获得的哀悼荣耀只能保证少量药剂的使用,如果需要大量药剂,重复的环节会让人感到厌烦,如果想让药剂真正成为温蒂在游戏中的一部分,就要保证药剂的定位是一种消耗品,而不是很珍贵的东西,因此很需要保证哀悼荣耀的稳定简单获取 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162862-suggestions-for-a-better-wendy-experience-%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E6%9B%B4%E5%A5%BD%E7%9A%84%E6%B8%A9%E8%92%82%E4%BD%93%E9%AA%8C%E7%9A%84%E5%BB%BA%E8%AE%AE/#findComment-1782998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeaY Posted December 30, 2024 Author Share Posted December 30, 2024 11 hours ago, Lee lol said: 1. I like to add interaction to pipspook and Wendy. 2. Dark petals should not be able to synthesize moon flowers, because the player tag is quite powerful, which is equivalent to getting the player tag for free. 3. It's troublesome to kill or murder animals in backpacks. I don't see any difference, especially in boss battles. As for ordinary mobs, Abi has done well enough. 4. I tend to let Gestalt continue to attack and temporarily have invincible frames in hidden mode. When her hp returns to more than 150, she will lose it, so that Gestalt is better than Shadow Abi, and will not op. 5. There is no need to let the killed animals drop MG. The pipspook mission is enough. On the contrary, we can use more mourning glory to synthesize creatures, such as synthesizing bees with bee stinges and 2 mourning glory, and synthesizing birds with feathers and 2 mourning glory to better link with shadow abi. First of all, thank you for your earnest reply 2. I don't think it's too much to increase Abigail's survivability and keep the gamertag on all the time, and this is only effective when facing bosses, and otherwise doesn't make Abigail too strong, and... This just eliminates the need to cut down trees and other aspects, and becomes more simple 4. I say this because I think the Shadow Abigail is more inclined to use the original Abigail, which makes Abigail face a large number of enemies, will continue to increase the damage with killing creatures, which is not the same as killing small animals in the backpack in advance, based on the Moon Abigail, I think the Shadow Abigail is not good at fighting bosses 5. I would love to make this possible, but a probability drop would be fine Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162862-suggestions-for-a-better-wendy-experience-%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E6%9B%B4%E5%A5%BD%E7%9A%84%E6%B8%A9%E8%92%82%E4%BD%93%E9%AA%8C%E7%9A%84%E5%BB%BA%E8%AE%AE/#findComment-1782999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeaY Posted December 30, 2024 Author Share Posted December 30, 2024 23 hours ago, congrongfuguo said: 关于哀悼荣耀:目前版本 每次帮助小幽灵大概可以得到20朵 之后可以通过移植坟墓来制作哀悼荣耀的工厂 所以我觉得其实药剂原料很充足 Regarding Mourning Glory: In the current version, each time you help the little ghost, you can get about 20 flowers. After that, you can transplant the tomb to create a Mourning Glory factory, so I think the medicinal ingredients are actually abundant Even after clicking the skill tree, helping the little ghost still has to run a long distance every time, I don't think this is some so-called "factory". 即使点了技能树,帮助小幽灵仍然每次都要跑出很远的距离,我不认为这是什么所谓的“工厂” Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162862-suggestions-for-a-better-wendy-experience-%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E6%9B%B4%E5%A5%BD%E7%9A%84%E6%B8%A9%E8%92%82%E4%BD%93%E9%AA%8C%E7%9A%84%E5%BB%BA%E8%AE%AE/#findComment-1783001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeaY Posted December 30, 2024 Author Share Posted December 30, 2024 And I really don't like the way Abigail Moon pauses for a second after an attack, which makes her look silly 并且我真的很不喜欢月亮阿比盖尔攻击后停顿一秒的设定,这显得她很傻 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162862-suggestions-for-a-better-wendy-experience-%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E6%9B%B4%E5%A5%BD%E7%9A%84%E6%B8%A9%E8%92%82%E4%BD%93%E9%AA%8C%E7%9A%84%E5%BB%BA%E8%AE%AE/#findComment-1783005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
congrongfuguo Posted December 31, 2024 Share Posted December 31, 2024 12 hours ago, TeaY said: 即使点了技能树,帮小鬼每次还是要跑很远的距离,我觉得这不是什么所谓的“工厂”。 即使点了技能树,帮助小幽灵仍然每次都要跑出很远的距离,我不认为这是什么所谓的"工厂" 我说的是这个 点距离天赋之后离岸第10个船就可以了 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162862-suggestions-for-a-better-wendy-experience-%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E6%9B%B4%E5%A5%BD%E7%9A%84%E6%B8%A9%E8%92%82%E4%BD%93%E9%AA%8C%E7%9A%84%E5%BB%BA%E8%AE%AE/#findComment-1783174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeaY Posted December 31, 2024 Author Share Posted December 31, 2024 8 hours ago, congrongfuguo said: 我说的是这个 点距离天赋之后离岸第10个船就可以了 不太喜欢这个方式来获得哀悼荣耀,而且在船上放坟墓很有可能会被修复 21 hours ago, TeaY said: And I really don't like the way Abigail Moon pauses for a second after an attack, which makes her look silly 并且我真的很不喜欢月亮阿比盖尔攻击后停顿一秒的设定,这显得她很傻 For the realization of the first point, reference can be made to the kittens of the Year of the Coon, who can be placed around the shrine, so it is hoped that little Fright can also be placed around the urn 关于第一点的实现,可以参考浣猫年的小猫,她们可以被安置在神龛周围,所以希望小惊吓也可以被安置在骨灰盒周围 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162862-suggestions-for-a-better-wendy-experience-%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E6%9B%B4%E5%A5%BD%E7%9A%84%E6%B8%A9%E8%92%82%E4%BD%93%E9%AA%8C%E7%9A%84%E5%BB%BA%E8%AE%AE/#findComment-1783256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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