Lee lol Posted December 10, 2024 Share Posted December 10, 2024 Personally, I don't like the hiding mode of gestalt. It weakens almost half of the output of Gestalt when you don't give her the potion. At the same time, it also made Gestalt continue to attract hatred, so much so that I had to take Abigail back, because she was neither harmful and vulnerable. I don't think it has improved the survivability of the gestalt. As for 1 hp, I think now we have new drugs that can quickly return Gesstat to level 3, so its effect is not particularly obvious. What do you think? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162216-do-you-want-the-hidding-mode-of-gestault-get-removed/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
1007954611 Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 The hiding mode only has a negative effect Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162216-do-you-want-the-hidding-mode-of-gestault-get-removed/#findComment-1773276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 Hiding mode is fine but the threshold could be dropped to ~15% It needs to be a golden zone of low enough to be relevant, but high enough it doesnt disrupt Abby regularly Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162216-do-you-want-the-hidding-mode-of-gestault-get-removed/#findComment-1773290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee lol Posted December 11, 2024 Author Share Posted December 11, 2024 The function of hidden mode not only repeats with evading instructions, but also weakens the damage of gestalt (already very low) In addition, what I don't like about it is that Aby's initiative to escape in the battle makes me feel bad. I feel abandoned. I hope we can fight together, instead of standing aside and watching the other. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162216-do-you-want-the-hidding-mode-of-gestault-get-removed/#findComment-1773303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee lol Posted December 11, 2024 Author Share Posted December 11, 2024 If half of the people disagree on each option, I guess these two features need to be tweaked at the very least. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162216-do-you-want-the-hidding-mode-of-gestault-get-removed/#findComment-1773571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee lol Posted December 13, 2024 Author Share Posted December 13, 2024 Bump. This mode is stupid for me, It weakens the output of 25% of Gestalt, making her more useless than Shadow Abi... Moreover, I don't like someone to force Abi to give up fighting for me. It should be up to me to decide when to let Abi fight and when to retreat. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162216-do-you-want-the-hidding-mode-of-gestault-get-removed/#findComment-1775436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzzzzzzzzz Posted December 13, 2024 Share Posted December 13, 2024 I agree to remove these two items. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162216-do-you-want-the-hidding-mode-of-gestault-get-removed/#findComment-1775446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee lol Posted December 14, 2024 Author Share Posted December 14, 2024 bump Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162216-do-you-want-the-hidding-mode-of-gestault-get-removed/#findComment-1776347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catuna_ Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 the hiding mode seemed to get in the way more than help, if I wanted Abigail to hide I would just de-summon her... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162216-do-you-want-the-hidding-mode-of-gestault-get-removed/#findComment-1776355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lardee Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 Remove it. If you don't think Abigail will survive, you'll unsummon her. If you're confident she'll survive, you'll keep her out. Taking the control away from the player and forcing you into the safe option isn't fun. Players should have the freedom to make decisions and reap the rewards/consequences of those decisions. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162216-do-you-want-the-hidding-mode-of-gestault-get-removed/#findComment-1776371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee lol Posted December 14, 2024 Author Share Posted December 14, 2024 7 minutes ago, Lardee said: 删除它。 如果你认为阿比盖尔不会活下来，你就取消召唤她。 如果你有信心她会活下来，你就会把她挡在外面。 从玩家手中夺走控制权并强迫您选择安全选项并不有趣。玩家应该有做决定的自由，并从这些决定中获得回报/后果。 I'm glad we were able to agree on this.The benefits of this model are not proportional to the losses. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162216-do-you-want-the-hidding-mode-of-gestault-get-removed/#findComment-1776375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debruh Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 Yea. If I use the dash command, she better dash not completely ignore me Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162216-do-you-want-the-hidding-mode-of-gestault-get-removed/#findComment-1776522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee lol Posted December 15, 2024 Author Share Posted December 15, 2024 10小时前，Debruh说： 是的。如果我使用破折号命令，她最好不要完全无视我 In the hidden mode, Abi can't use commands to attack, which is very uncomfortable and can't protect her well. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162216-do-you-want-the-hidding-mode-of-gestault-get-removed/#findComment-1776885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzzzzzzzzz Posted December 15, 2024 Share Posted December 15, 2024 up Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162216-do-you-want-the-hidding-mode-of-gestault-get-removed/#findComment-1777189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee lol Posted December 17, 2024 Author Share Posted December 17, 2024 Bump Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162216-do-you-want-the-hidding-mode-of-gestault-get-removed/#findComment-1779119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee lol Posted January 25, 2025 Author Share Posted January 25, 2025 bump I don't know why two-thirds of people hate the design of hidden mode, but the designer doesn't make any adjustments to it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162216-do-you-want-the-hidding-mode-of-gestault-get-removed/#findComment-1788925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yifei_ Posted January 25, 2025 Share Posted January 25, 2025 I'm not sure if the details of the hiding mode have been adjusted (like the health conditions that trigger it), but in my recent tests, the hiding mode has not been removed. This hiding mode feels like the designer is teaching me how to play the game instead of letting me play at my own pace. If Abigail's health is low, I know how to unsummon her or heal her. I don't need this pointless hiding mode to tell me what to do. Moreover, not only does this hiding mode fail to remove Abigail from the enemies' aggro, but it also causes her to stop attacking, run around aimlessly, and mess up her positioning, making the survival situation even worse. This gives me the feeling that it is a design that is detached from the actual gameplay. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162216-do-you-want-the-hidding-mode-of-gestault-get-removed/#findComment-1788930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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