Wurt and Winona skill tree changes update 3 + more I need help with some of the Winona stuff So if you could help, that would be much appreciated

[Dr.Webber]

 

Skill	Description	Prerequisites
Merm-ify ally (Swamp Pathfinder replacement)	"Allies wearing the comrade converter will be partially merm-ified"	None
1x clever disguise 2x silver( crab knights drop silver separately of this skill) 4x kelp All players wearing comrade converter  gain a 30% speed boost when walking on Marsh Turf and can see tentacle warnings better  comrade converter repairable with kelp

Skill	Description	Prerequisites
Mosquito repellent (Mosquito Incognito replacement )	"Learn to craft a flaming wax stick making Mosquitoes  avoid you."	None
Torch x1  Bee mswax x1   Repairable with beeswax

 

Skill	Description	Prerequisites
Community Feeder I	"Craft a Communal Kelp Dish to entice faster Merm growth."	None
x2  x2

Skill	Description	Prerequisites
Community Feeder II	"Craft a Superior Communal Kelp Dish that holds more kelp for even faster Merm growth."	Community Feeder I
x3  x3  x1    Can upgrade previous version into this version by adding the added materials used to craft this version to the previous version as if it was the diy royalty kit

 

Skill	Description	Prerequisites
Industrious Merm II	"Craft a Slightly Less Shoddy Tool shed that provides Slightly Less Shoddy Tools."	Industrious Merm I
x4  x1  x5  x5    Can upgrade previous version into this version by adding the added materials used to craft this version to the previous version as if it was the diy royalty kit

 

Skill	Description	Prerequisites
Hardheaded II	"Craft a Superior Armermry that provides Swamp Warrior Helmets."	Hardheaded I
x4  x1  x5  x5    Can upgrade previous version into this version by adding the added materials used to craft this version to the previous version as if it was the diy royalty kit

Affinity

Skill	Description	Prerequisites
Lunar Mutated Merm	"Grant your loyal merms the wondrous gift of Lunar mutation through death  Empower your mutant merms with Planar power using Pure Brilliance."	Unlock at least 12 skills Find and defeat the Celestial Champion Have no shadow affinity
Wurt receive +10% protection against Lunar Aligned mobs and deals +10% damage to Shadow Aligned mobs. When a loyal Merm dies, it will turn into ( the merm  gestalt for the concept art from the klei stream that will possess their body and turn into…  )a mutated Merm (Loyal Merm Guard into  mutated Merm Guard). When Wurt uses Pure Horror, all loyal mutated Merms will deal planar damage instead of default damage for 4 minutes.

Skill	Description	Prerequisites
Terra Mutation	"Morph any piece of land into sweet sweet Marsh."	Lunar Mutated Merm
Strident Trident x1  marsh Turf x1  Pure brilliance x1  brilliant Trident (also and equal lunar equivalent to shadow tentacles)

Skill	Description	Prerequisites
Shadow Resurrection Merm	"Your merm followers may die, but their shadows live on. Infuse fallen merms' shadows with Planar power’ using Pure Horror."	Unlock at least 12 skills Find and defeat the Ancient Fuelweaver Have no lunar affinity
Wurt receive +10% protection against Shadow Aligned mobs and deals +10% damage to Lunar Aligned mobs. When a loyal Merm dies, it will turn into a Shadow Merm (Loyal Merm Guard into Shadow Merm Guard). When Wurt uses Pure Horror, all loyal Shadow Merms will deal planar damage instead of default damage for 4 minutes.

Skill	Description	Prerequisites
Terra Corruption	"No land shall be safe from the dark and beautiful corruption of the Marsh."	Shadow Resurrection Merm
Strident Trident x1  marsh Turf x1  Pure horror x1  horrific Trident

Skill	Description	Prerequisites
Queen’s favor  I(Renamed Shadow Seeker I)	"The Queen imparts a design for enchanted glasses that reveal hidden traces of shadow magic. Does she want you to find her?"	Learn 6 skills on the shelf below to unlock the skills on the shelf above.
Winona can craft Rose-Colored Glasses. x12  x3

Skill	Description	Prerequisites
Queen’s favor  II(Renamed Shadow Seeker II)	"Become more adept at locating traces of shadow magic. The Queen will watch over you."	Requires the Shadow Seeker I skill, and to not have Founder's Keepers II to unlock.
Winona can use Rose-Colored Glasses on Worm Holes to teleport to any Worm Hole on the map. Winona can "Closely Examine" flowers to find a Dark Vestige and pick up a Fragile Rose. If Winona dies with a Fragile Rose in her inventory, she will revive next to the Florid Postern or, if existing, next to a Night Light. Charlie no longer attacks Winona in the Darkness.

Skill	Description	Prerequisites
Nightmare Generator	"Learn how to utilize Nightmare Fuel as a fuel source for Generators."	Learn 6 skills on the shelf below to unlock the skills on the shelf above.

Skill	Description	Prerequisites
Horror Generator	"Learn how to utilize Pure Horror as a fuel source for Generators."	Nightmare Generator

Skill	Description	Prerequisites

When a G.E.M.erator is charged with Pure horror , Catapults deal 30 physical damage, 17 planar damage, and +10% damage to lunar Alignedcreatures.

Skill	Description	Prerequisites
Founder's Keepers I	"Build a device inspired by the Cryptic Founder's designs to track down hidden supply caches. Gain mastery over all technology found in Cacheboxes."	Learn 6 skills on the shelf below to unlock the skills on the shelf above.
Winona can build Inspectacles and use a Calibrated Perceiver to scan W.O.B.O.T.. x1  x2

Skill	Description	Prerequisites
Founder's Keepers II	"Broaden the scope of your Inspectacles to locate higher-grade supply caches. Gain mastery over all technology found in Advanced Cacheboxes."	Requires the Founder's Keepers I skill, and to not have Shadow Seeker II to unlock.
Winona can use Inspectacles to find Advanced Cacheboxes instead of normal Cacheboxes. A Calibrated Perceiver can be used to scan Unstable Transmissions.

Skill	Description	Prerequisites
Infused G.E.M.erator (Enlightened G.E.M.erator replacement)	"Learn how to utilize Enlightened Shards as a fuel source for G.E.M.erators."	Learn 6 skills on the shelf below to unlock the skills on the shelf above.

Skill	Description	Prerequisites
Brilliance G.E.M.erator	"Learn how to utilize Pure Brilliance as a fuel source for G.E.M.erators."	Enlightened G.E.M.erator
When a G.E.M.erator is charged with Pure Brilliance, Catapults deal 30 physical damage, 17 planar damage, and +10% damage to Shadow Alignedcreatures. reverse the colors of the lunar boulder Enlightened strike is renamed to lunar strike  I don’t know how to make it equal but please make the head piece skills for each side be equal to their counterpart maybe do something where Winona industrializes the shadow magic also maybe merge Inspectacles and Calibrated Perceiver also the crafting recipes for rose-colored glasses and Inspectacles don't fit they're design    also The the hot light skill should help plants grow underground as well as hatch the hatch able eggs without having to move it back and forth because it keeps switching between to hot or to cold       (ok this one’s separate from the rest so if you don’t like this one don’t let it drag the rest down so I get it if you don’t want to this one because most of the machinery not effected by the aligned power sources are from wagstaff’s side of the tree but I think it would be cool if all her machinery was effected)

[Dr.Webber]

updated

[BabaFisi]

How would the Brilliant and Horrific Trident work? Would they be the same as the Mudslingers, but can also be used as weapons?

If so, would you be able to repair them?

[Dr.Webber]

51 minutes ago, BabaFisi said:

How would the Brilliant and Horrific Trident work? Would they be the same as the Mudslingers, but can also be used as weapons?

If so, would you be able to repair them?

Yeah, maybe it could be repairable with pure brilliance/horror or Marsh turf

[BabaFisi]

3 hours ago, Dr.Webber said:

Yeah, maybe it could be repairable with pure brilliance/horror or Marsh turf

Personally, I think the current Mudslingers are fine. The whole thing with Wurt is that she is kinda the "Merm Princess", and her facination with books and fairytales make her Mudslingers a sort of "Magic Wand"

What I suggest is that the Mudslingers, along with the "Spell" she can cast with either Pure Horror or Pure Brilliance, is that she also gets a form change.

Like, with Shadow Affinity, she can die, and then immediately revive as "Shadow Wurt" which acts as an alternative to the Ghost mechanic. I'm not sure how exactly this would work, but I'd like to hear some other ideas!

And the Lunar Affinity could be like Werepig Wilba, where she turns into a "Mutant Wurt" and gains Night Vision and Claws that can deal decent Planar Damage, and mine, chop, dig, hammer, etc, along with the occasional spikes after being hit, like from the Bramble Husk.

[Dr.Webber]

2 hours ago, BabaFisi said:

Personally, I think the current Mudslingers are fine. The whole thing with Wurt is that she is kinda the "Merm Princess", and her facination with books and fairytales make her Mudslingers a sort of "Magic Wand"

What I suggest is that the Mudslingers, along with the "Spell" she can cast with either Pure Horror or Pure Brilliance, is that she also gets a form change.

Like, with Shadow Affinity, she can die, and then immediately revive as "Shadow Wurt" which acts as an alternative to the Ghost mechanic. I'm not sure how exactly this would work, but I'd like to hear some other ideas!

And the Lunar Affinity could be like Werepig Wilba, where she turns into a "Mutant Wurt" and gains Night Vision and Claws that can deal decent Planar Damage, and mine, chop, dig, hammer, etc, along with the occasional spikes after being hit, like from the Bramble Husk.

Yeah, that makes sense yeah I like the wand or a thing I just don’t like how the dreaded mudskipper design wise is made out of dreadstone tried giving her a  trident  of her own feels like reflect her highly importance  in merm society Plus, if they went betray route, they wouldn’t have to think of a whole new design. Just need to add a little bit to the strident trident and would allow for a solid design without going the route of dreadstone 

OK now I’m curious how would you design those versions of Wurt did she look dramatically different from other merms In the game, the shadow variants their own unique design  rather than just being silhouettes of their former selves

I also sort of wish when they pick up their multitool again it doesn’t turn into shadow as well. Also, I wish the off the air fish since fish life so important in merm Society.

Do you think Merm King knows he’s eating fish when he eats Food looking fish Or do you think he’s sacrificing his principle for his gluttony ?

I also kind of wish mutated and shadow merms  could become their own Variants of Merm King 

[BabaFisi]

9 hours ago, Dr.Webber said:

Yeah, that makes sense yeah I like the wand or a thing I just don’t like how the dreaded mudskipper design wise is made out of dreadstone tried giving her a  trident  of her own feels like reflect her highly importance  in merm society Plus, if they went betray route, they wouldn’t have to think of a whole new design. Just need to add a little bit to the strident trident and would allow for a solid design without going the route of dreadstone 

OK now I’m curious how would you design those versions of Wurt did she look dramatically different from other merms In the game, the shadow variants their own unique design  rather than just being silhouettes of their former selves

I also sort of wish when they pick up their multitool again it doesn’t turn into shadow as well. Also, I wish the off the air fish since fish life so important in merm Society.

Do you think Merm King knows he’s eating fish when he eats Food looking fish Or do you think he’s sacrificing his principle for his gluttony ?

I also kind of wish mutated and shadow merms  could become their own Variants of Merm King 

Despite the Shadow Merm design being as dissapointing as they are, I don't think I could do them better. Not because I couldn't make a better design, but because changing it would take away the MASSIVE lore implications. When the Merm turn into Shadow Merms, we literally see them SHED THEIR SKIN. This is what happened to the Ancients, and so, for me to change their design would be the same as me changing the design of the Shadow Creatures.

I too, wish she could have her Multitool. Does Klei just hate the idea of giving something like that to the player? I mean, with how cheap it is, I don't blame them, but still.

Is the King eating the fish? I thought you just gave him the fish and trade them for stuff, like what you do with the Pig King.

A skin for a Shadow Merm King or Mutant Merm King would be cool. And maybe they could make a Wurt skin for the Moonbound Collection, where she looks like a Mutated Merm.

[Dr.Webber]

42 minutes ago, BabaFisi said:

Despite the Shadow Merm design being as dissapointing as they are, I don't think I could do them better. Not because I couldn't make a better design, but because changing it would take away the MASSIVE lore implications. When the Merm turn into Shadow Merms, we literally see them SHED THEIR SKIN. This is what happened to the Ancients, and so, for me to change their design would be the same as me changing the design of the Shadow Creatures.

I too, wish she could have her Multitool. Does Klei just hate the idea of giving something like that to the player? I mean, with how cheap it is, I don't blame them, but still.

Is the King eating the fish? I thought you just gave him the fish and trade them for stuff, like what you do with the Pig King.

A skin for a Shadow Merm King or Mutant Merm King would be cool. And maybe they could make a Wurt skin for the Moonbound Collection, where she looks like a Mutated Merm.

I meant a shadow merm design for wurt

I meant when they pick up they're multi tools again it turns into a shadow

most he doesn't but the food shaped ones he does

I meant actual variants, considering  the triumphant skin doesn't look like the shadow merms I wou actually prefer they made it a three horned bright eyed frog

[Dr.Webber]

This should be updated

Maybe Wurt using the different items from the quest could have a similar effect as the king both on top of his effects and separately when she has those skills enabled

[Dr.Webber]

Anyone have any ideas have any idea to make Terra corruption/mutation equal 

maybe have come up with a better name the queen’s quester that still in corporates queen in it

any idea to make Winona industrialize shadow magic (honestly I’d settle for getting rid of the bridge nothing burger can move, not attacking at night down to its slot)

[Dr.Webber]

How about Queen’s bounty

[Dr.Webber]

Changed the title 

Also, I’m starting to rethink the name Of Queens bounty

[Dr.Webber]

changed queens bounty to queens favor 

[Dr.Webber]

I think it would be cool if the pure power sources affected the Wagstaff stuff

[Dr.Webber]

I’m thinking of adding an extra related Wurt ability to each of the king quests For when she has those items in their respective slots any ideas?