Arcwell Posted June 28, 2024 Share Posted June 28, 2024 Here is a table showing the effects different quantities of gems have on Crab King's abilities: The yellow cells indicate Crab King's stats after socketing Pearl's Pearl, which counts for 3 gems of each type. Several of Crab King's buffs occur for every 4 gems of the same type socketed. The first time this occurs for each gem type is highlighted in red. Because pearl counts for 3 gems, these effectively trigger after 1 gem. This often means that socketing 1 gem of any type gives Crab King a massive power spike: 1 red: Cannons cause boat breaches 1 blue: Ice wall takes triple the amount of damage to break 1 purple: Crabs take twice as many panflute uses to put to sleep 1 yellow: Cannons take twice as much damage to kill (doesn't apply to ramming) 1 green: Claws take twice as much damage to kill I think this is problematic because it limits the combinations of gems we'd realistically want to use. It means that once you have chosen a gem type, it is often better to commit to adding more of that gem rather than mixing in new ones. My suggestion would be to shift the gems that are multiples of 4 down by 1 or 2. For example, boat breaches would start at 5 or 6, AKA 2 or 3 red gems + pearl. This would allow us to use some gems without incurring their strongest power spikes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157681-crab-king-gem-values/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gashzer Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 Yeah being shoehorned into slotting all orange gems is abit boring. But then again thats only for pearled crab king. A counter-arguement is that we have more reasons to fight regular non-pearled crab king especially if you play wurt, regular crab king does reward slotting a mixed bunch of gems. Always gotta consider that crab king can be fought without the pearl..... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157681-crab-king-gem-values/#findComment-1730413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamehun20 Posted June 29, 2024 Share Posted June 29, 2024 16 hours ago, Arcwell said: Here is a table showing the effects different quantities of gems have on Crab King's abilities: i have to ask (maybe i'm not very observant) but in the ice stage duration what measurement is it in? seconds? some other thing? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157681-crab-king-gem-values/#findComment-1730567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcwell Posted June 30, 2024 Author Share Posted June 30, 2024 9 hours ago, gamehun20 said: i have to ask (maybe i'm not very observant) but in the ice stage duration what measurement is it in? seconds? some other thing? Seconds, starting from when the ice wall segments break around the first one you destroy and ending when the ice stage starts to crack. Here's an example of it breaking with 8 blue gems + pearl: Spoiler 8.mp4 And here's one with 4 blue gems + pearl: Spoiler 4.mp4 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157681-crab-king-gem-values/#findComment-1730755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddocc Posted June 30, 2024 Share Posted June 30, 2024 All blue is pretty easy to be honest just do dmg in the other phase Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/157681-crab-king-gem-values/#findComment-1730771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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