replacing less obvious animations with custom ones (e.g. from player_acting.scml or back/side view animations)

[NPCMaxwell]

So the SG animations replacing works well for my custom character so far, but I fear I am not too sure how to find the SG equivalent to all of the animations I want to edit in one scml file. For example I am a huge fan of the charlie_stage, but my character requires lots of adjustments (it's fun to do, I don't mind the work).

So far I've successfully replaced all animations defined in the acting_talk state and the acting_idle state besides those two last animations from the player_acting folder. So does ANYONE happen to know where I can find "ref_idle" and "x1" in the SG? I have also done a search via Notepad++ in the other files from the scripts folder, but it stays a riddle to me where those two are defined. I only saw that the player_acting.zip is obviously been loaded as assests in player_common but I don't dare to touch this file. (unless I have to? Would need some insurance first.)

For reference I mean this: which "1x" is the character doing funny arm animations while talking for stageplay (soliquolies?) and ref_idle is the character in front, side, back view.

 

Could THIS thing in SGWilson may have something to do with "x1", if yes how would I have to replace it since so far I always called my replacment animation tall_originalnameinspriterfile but I don't dare to just try out by replacing something I can't even identify with tall_1. (state acting_action)
 

Spoiler

State{
        name = "acting_action",
        tags = { "talking", "acting" },

        onenter = function(inst, data)
            local loop = false
            if data.animtype == "loop" then
                loop = true
                inst.sg.statemem.loop = true
            end
            if data.animtype == "hold" then
                inst.sg.statemem.hold = true
            end

            if type(data.anim) == "table" then
                for i,animation in ipairs(data.anim)do
                    inst.sg.statemem.queue = true
                    if i == 1 then
                        if #data.anim == 1 and loop then
                            inst.AnimState:PlayAnimation(animation, true)
                        else
                            inst.AnimState:PlayAnimation(animation, false)
                        end
                    elseif i == #data.anim then
                        inst.AnimState:PushAnimation(animation, loop)
                    else
                        inst.AnimState:PushAnimation(animation, false)
                    end
                end
            else
                inst.AnimState:PlayAnimation(data.anim, loop)
            end
            if data.line then
                DoTalkSound(inst)
            end
        end,

        events =
        {
            EventHandler("donetalking", function(inst)
                StopTalkSound(inst)
                if not inst.sg.statemem.loop and not inst.sg.statemem.hold then
                    inst.sg:GoToState("acting_idle")
                end
            end),
            EventHandler("animover", function(inst)
                if not inst.sg.statemem.loop and not inst.sg.statemem.hold then
                    if not inst.sg.statemem.queue then
                        inst.sg:GoToState("acting_idle")
                    end
                end
            end),  
            EventHandler("animqueueover", function(inst)
                if not inst.sg.statemem.loop and not inst.sg.statemem.hold then
                    if inst.sg.statemem.queue then
                        inst.sg:GoToState("acting_idle")
                    end
                end
            end),
        },

        onexit = function(inst)
            StopTalkSound(inst)
        end,
    },

 

EDIT: Neither can I figure out how to e.g. replace the animations that say animation_camerarotation. That would for example be all the hit variations in player_actions.scml / zip (hit_back, hit_goo_back, hit_up, etc.). I doubt it would be a good idea if I somehow disabled rotation stuff for my character, so I would love to keep those animations, too and just edit them a little bit. But for this I would have to find out where they are defined. (once again I can only find their standard front-view animations in SGWilson)

 

Edited June 19, 2024 by NPCMaxwell

[Rickzzs]

Replacing animations requires a technique of AnimState proxy, instead of SG. If you hack SG, you'll find every occurrences.

The technique can be found in https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3045668614

In brief,

local old=inst.AnimState

inst.AnimState={}

local fn=function(t,key)

        local oldfn=old[key]

        --here hack every Animation related functions. If key=='PlayAnimation' then if  a=='acting1' then a='my acting1' end end

        return function(x,a,b,c,...)

                return oldfn(old,a,b,c,...)

        end

end

setmetatable(inst.AnimState,{__index=fn})

[NPCMaxwell]

10 hours ago, Rickzzs said:

Replacing animations requires a technique of AnimState proxy, instead of SG. If you hack SG, you'll find every occurrences.

The technique can be found in https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3045668614

In brief,

local old=inst.AnimState

inst.AnimState={}

local fn=function(t,key)

        local oldfn=old[key]

        --here hack every Animation related functions. If key=='PlayAnimation' then if  a=='acting1' then a='my acting1' end end

        return function(x,a,b,c,...)

                return oldfn(old,a,b,c,...)

        end

end

setmetatable(inst.AnimState,{__index=fn})

The problem kind of is, that I can't even find the "x1" acting animations in the first place. I have already replaced everything in SG that I was able to identify. (character is placed on charlie-stage and idles version 1 and version 2, character is placed on charlie-stage and talks version1 and version 2. But this is outside the actual soliquolies. I suppose if I knew where those are written down (I truly could not find anything that made sense to me in SG) I may understand a little the example you have been giving me here, but sadly I don't since I can't "decipher" it.

Anyway, I will say thank you nevertheless, because your approach would certainly help me, if I wasn't too confused to find the basics first. I suppose I will just continue to instead replace what I can directly find written in the SG like in the other tutorial I got from another user before which had been working fine for me so far. And then, when I am done, I will just have to live with my character looking weird during the rest of the animations, but that should be ok since they are less often used anyway. Maybe I will ask again at the end with the specific animations I couldn't replace but until then I will try not to pay attention to any weird appearance of my character when doing them.

 

EDIT: I found a file called "Play_the_doll.lua" and "play_generalscripts.lua" which is probably what I have been looking for in terms of editing charlie_stage character animations, but I will not do anything with those for now. I will just maybe keep in mind that those files may useful.

Edited June 20, 2024 by NPCMaxwell

[Rickzzs]

Not all animations are used in game, that's all.

[NPCMaxwell]

10 minutes ago, Rickzzs said:

Not all animations are used in game, that's all.

Oh ok.....so the game may "automatically" know how my custom animations will look like in side-view? For example if I made a custom version of Maxwell-hiding-a-card-in-his-sleeve (I think it's called Idle2_w/maxwell or similar), then the game will magically know how it will look when the character is seen from the side or the back when doing the animation? I haven't tried this out yet, since so far I only dared to replace animations that I thought would only be seen in frontview)

Edited June 20, 2024 by NPCMaxwell

[Rickzzs]

2 hours ago, NPCMaxwell said:

Oh ok.....so the game may "automatically" know how my custom animations will look like in side-view? For example if I made a custom version of Maxwell-hiding-a-card-in-his-sleeve (I think it's called Idle2_w/maxwell or similar), then the game will magically know how it will look when the character is seen from the side or the back when doing the animation? I haven't tried this out yet, since so far I only dared to replace animations that I thought would only be seen in frontview)

They have different names in Spriter, like '_side' is the custom suffix of side animation. That naming rule may come from ktools.

[NPCMaxwell]

30 minutes ago, Rickzzs said:

They have different names in Spriter, like '_side' is the custom suffix of side animation. That naming rule may come from ktools.

Yes I have seen those animations with _side and_up and _back, and I also have edited them in the spriter file, but sadly I can't seem to find them inside the stategraph (or anywhere else) to replace them. I have searched the whole scripts folder via notepads++ ctrl+f search in find in files function. It's ok, for now this isn't a priority, it just came into my mind remembering that the camera ingame can be turned / characters will also do some animations in sideview and so far I only found tutorials for non-rotated camera view / non-side view.

[Rickzzs]

19 hours ago, NPCMaxwell said:

Yes I have seen those animations with _side and_up and _back, and I also have edited them in the spriter file, but sadly I can't seem to find them inside the stategraph (or anywhere else) to replace them. I have searched the whole scripts folder via notepads++ ctrl+f search in find in files function. It's ok, for now this isn't a priority, it just came into my mind remembering that the camera ingame can be turned / characters will also do some animations in sideview and so far I only found tutorials for non-rotated camera view / non-side view.

They are recognized by camera rotation, for example, 90 degree goes to _side.

[NPCMaxwell]

8 minutes ago, Rickzzs said:

They are recognized by camera rotation, for example, 90 degree goes to _side.

Ah thanks! Now I get it I think. So if I load my edited animation zip into my modmains with all animation renamed to tall_(standardanimationnameinspriter) they will play the tall one. This is good as it saves me lots of trouble / a big headache I would have had otherwise.

[NPCMaxwell]

I can confirm now that it is indeed as Rickzzs said, it is enough to replace the "main" animation in the stategraph, and the camera will automatically use the side, up, down versions of the animations of how you have them in the edited spriter file.

I have also found files in the data folder that are related to the Stageplay and solicolies, but I have noticed the moment a custom character "wants" to do a soliquoly, they will simply do an idle animation until the birds complain it's "improvising" and leave. So instead I will probably do the same as with other in-game situations that I put me in front of a problem, I will probably make him "refuse" to use the Charlie Stage / soliquolies. Maybe making him explain that he would need his assistent [that is charlie] to perform. Not sure yet. I also found an own file for the /emotes things you can put as command in the chats, and since they are not listed seperately in the SG either, I will see if I will even edit them, or just ask players to please avoid the /emotes function with my custom Maxwell, simply because the animations would look too weird on him [and there is no real in-game usage for them either, if you ask me.]