Winona skill tree feedback

[MarkBlocos]

Some non-aggressive feedback just on the winona stuff. Mainly what has been generally felt. But it is also my personal opinion.

Her tree feels a bit lacking. Her kit was very old and doesn't feel as upgraded as the other characters.

1. There is a LOT of points towards catapults. But besides planar dmg for post-rift, it doesn't seem necessary. Her cats were never a problem, they have always been efficient. More dmg with them doens't feel like a good reason to not switch from winona.

2. It seems like a lot of points are redundant. There are too many different ways to buff cats rate of fire, and multiple points to do that. It does also feel like some skills are fillers.

3. As others have said, no different equipaments [this is personal but i would very much like and prefer the thumper than telipad]; the telipad has a very limited range; her hunger-efficiency crafting has not been touched; She already had one hit protection from Charlie etc

I don't believe we should tell the devs what the game has to look like. I think this is mainly a feedback on what they have showed and maybe where it can use some improvments before the update. TLDR: She could benefit from more creative and engaging gameplay on the tree.

Thanks

Thanks for the devs on the update as well, you guys are some of the most dedicated game developers <3

[Primalflower]

I like the catapult skills plenty but i do think that the telipad should have way more range than it has, its weird how little it seems to

[GreenBowers]

Im glad someone finally put together some good, valid criticism in a well mannered, well written way.

I agree, I feel like some of the skills that are just stat increases could be trimmed for some other facets of her kit, like maybe improvements to repairing or crafting items.

[GoodOldLeon]

2 hours ago, MarkBlocos said:

She could benefit from more creative and engaging gameplay on the tree.
 

I agree with everything you noted, specially the TLDR. I've been playing Winona almost exclusively for years and I was really hyped for this beta and while I feel quite disappointed right now, I understand that such is the process of a beta and it is to be expected to a certain extent. I trust Klei to deliver even if it takes a long time an many Iterations since even the most lauded skill trees that we currently have were lacking at launch too.

Something off the top of my head that could work would be a refinement machine where you could put stacks of items and it would refine them over time. It would ease the pain of having to stop what you're doing to craft a bunch of materials and it would fit her theme pretty well. Instead of the crossing gaps gimmick, she could build actual wooden bridges, maybe you could even upgrade said bridges with a lever to prevent enemy passage. The possibilities are endless really, and I hope they go the fun/interesting/practical route instead of a big chunk of plain and redundant stats boosts.

[Soul7k]

The tooltips are a bit lacking. I have no idea what the rose tinted goggles do or what the last perk even does to modify it. if its just nmf and pure horror and an occasional landbridge im having trouble justifying it over the handful of crafts the wagstaff side gets. Woulda been cool if the shadow side had some kinds of shadow infused inventions or something. the lunar side just seems more fleshed out