About wigfrids skill tree

[Embernode]

I love most of the tree
love the new revive battle stinger, love the new weapons, love the new songs but some things dont sit quite right

Rider tab
domestication by 15% is perfect
but the 30% ride longer, planer damage and saddle is weird.   for the most part i get a beefalo as wigfrid all the time, the hunts are swift, its easy wool with a great speed boost to get from one boss to the other. But staying on the beefalo is not a problem, most of the time i hop off so i can feed em a twig every so often " usually every 10 seconds" so instead of riding longer why not just make the tameness level decay slower. as for the damage part i would just allow wigfrid to hunt without hopping off the beefalo, besides wigfrid dose more damage then the beefalo so fighting is not are concern.     the saddle looks amazing and i thought it was a speed boost, but its just a simple 40% damage absorption " battle saddle is better" plus a speed boost helps wigfrid with hunts.    and it looked like a spare space was under the saddle "maybe a hunting tab for 2 koalefants instead of 1?"

lightning spear
at first 2.5x damage on wet targets came to mind, thought i could one tap grumble bees in spring for easy crown and wax paper....... i was horribly wrong.  it dose 1.5x damage making it less useful then the Rond goat jelly trick....... If it had even 2x damage it would be just enough for grumbles making it very helpful for bee queen.    as for the 20 plainer damage, id just make it 20+ damage instead. restrained static is hard to come by as well, maybe just touch a lightning rod when its charged for the buff " easier for starting players"

other wise its perfect! rond is good early game tho i wish i could hold a spear with it " maybe like a sea fishing rod" but it just buffs the damage by 10.

keep up the great work and thank you for buffing wigfrid and willow! hope Walter gets a small tree buff as well.

[Yuuko]

Yeah I feel like instead of planar damage and ride time, it should be something like gains inspiration while riding, and attacks with weapon while riding instead of beefalo attack.

[Embernode]

2 hours ago, Shosuko said:

Yeah I feel like instead of planar damage and ride time, it should be something like gains inspiration while riding, and attacks with weapon while riding instead of beefalo attack.

I thought about the fighting on top of the beefalo thing but beefalo are not as tanky as a armored wigfrid.
the 40% damage absorption vs wigs 20% absorb + armor makes it much harder to want to fight on a beefalo

wig is just way more rewarding to fight with. i still think hunting on the beefalo would be better for the rider tab.

THO i do like the inspiration when riding the beefalo. like getting ready up for a battle.

[Yuuko]

2 hours ago, Embernode said:

I thought about the fighting on top of the beefalo thing but beefalo are not as tanky as a armored wigfrid.

Yeah but the thing is - dps is hard to turn down, especially a significant amount of it like Wig and her weapons vs a beef... Tankiness is more subjective.  With a beefalo you get a decent amount of tankiness b/c they have a good health value but also with their speed you're able to kite very well with them.  I could see it as an option if people appreciate the speed of the beef.  Its not becoming paper like Wanda, so its more arguable which way a player might prefer to play.

[Cruvimaster]

The real work was done at Willow. Wigfrid was once good, but she only lives in the past.

[Embernode]

5 hours ago, Cruvimaster said:

The real work was done at Willow. Wigfrid was once good, but she only lives in the past.

WIGFRID GOD MODE
infanate health and sanity
Meat is all over the place
wigfrids songs help others and herself   she can solo dragon fly with healing song and marble armor.

Wigfrid is 2x better then all characters, survives hits, deals amazing damage, incredible sanity.

the only thing is that her rework did not give her any buffs or new weapons   only songs, some of which are better then others cough cough "fire song"

the only thing is she dose not get to keep her spear and helm for long so them getting a buff makes her game play more fun

shes not in the past. she was always great/ just simple. so this tree makes her more interesting but needs to make more since.

[Cruvimaster]

1 hour ago, Embernode said:

WIGFRID GOD MODE
infanate health and sanity
Meat is all over the place
wigfrids songs help others and herself   she can solo dragon fly with healing song and marble armor.

Wigfrid is 2x better then all characters, survives hits, deals amazing damage, incredible sanity.

the only thing is that her rework did not give her any buffs or new weapons   only songs, some of which are better then others cough cough "fire song"

the only thing is she dose not get to keep her spear and helm for long so them getting a buff makes her game play more fun

shes not in the past. she was always great/ just simple. so this tree makes her more interesting but needs to make more since.

If you can do this here with Wigfrid I will remain silent. Day 3.

 

[arubaro]

8 hours ago, Cruvimaster said:

The real work was done at Willow. Wigfrid was once good, but she only lives in the past.

she suffered the same fate as wolfgang in the 1st (actually 2nd cuz wilson) round of skill trees

1 hour ago, Cruvimaster said:

If you can do this here with Wigfrid I will remain silent. Day 3.

 

i mean... you can, you just need to rush presti to craft pan flutes or waste some time in the fight splitting BQ from her bees

[black hole]

I don’t think Wigfrid’s Lightning Spear is a very useful weapon. After killing a lot of sheep and collecting two horns, I can only get a durability of 150, and the attack power is not higher than the ham bat. I don’t know what I can do with this weapon. I can’t bear to use it when fighting small monsters, and I can’t use one spear to kill Boss. Also, the loot from the Boss may not be more valuable to me than the sheep horns. So what can this exclusive weapon do?

[Yuuko]

9 hours ago, black hole said:

I don’t think Wigfrid’s Lightning Spear is a very useful weapon. After killing a lot of sheep and collecting two horns, I can only get a durability of 150, and the attack power is not higher than the ham bat. I don’t know what I can do with this weapon. I can’t bear to use it when fighting small monsters, and I can’t use one spear to kill Boss. Also, the loot from the Boss may not be more valuable to me than the sheep horns. So what can this exclusive weapon do?

The dash attack does not reduce durability so you can use it to kill birds and stuff.  Yeah its not very useful, but its not useless lol.  Clearly the intent is that you upgrade it to the final form, the first form is mostly pointless.

[Swiyss]

1 minute ago, Shosuko said:

The dash attack does not reduce durability so you can use it to kill birds and stuff.  Yeah its not very useful, but its not useless lol.  Clearly the intent is that you upgrade it to the final form, the first form is mostly pointless.

They could add brightshade and void crafts for her. I think I saw a topic about a commanders helm with brightshade so that would be cool. Idk about balancing that tho.

[Yuuko]

3 minutes ago, Swiyss said:

They could add brightshade and void crafts for her. I think I saw a topic about a commanders helm with brightshade so that would be cool. Idk about balancing that tho.

I don't see how that improves anything.  Some ppl are just hating on her getting some crafts with planar ahead of "end game" and imo its inevitable.  I don't think its a good use of time to be concerned about that.  If Klei really needs the consistency they can just add more "when attacking a planar entity" tags to everything.

[Swiyss]

4 minutes ago, Shosuko said:

I don't see how that improves anything.  Some ppl are just hating on her getting some crafts with planar ahead of "end game" and imo its inevitable.  I don't think its a good use of time to be concerned about that.  If Klei really needs the consistency they can just add more "when attacking a planar entity" tags to everything.

That would fix most issues.

[Embernode]

On 12/5/2023 at 12:50 PM, Cruvimaster said:

If you can do this here with Wigfrid I will remain silent. Day 3.

 

you can do the same thing with a flingo trap.   Fire is just useful in general so of course the one who controls fire can do good on bee queen who gets cheesed with fire.

fire is good for cheesing anything, so willow getting a fire wall was eventually going to get broken, there going to fix it dont worry lol.

However wigfrid can destroy bosses without cheese, thats why people speedrun with her.

2 hours ago, Shosuko said:

The dash attack does not reduce durability so you can use it to kill birds and stuff.  Yeah its not very useful, but its not useless lol.  Clearly the intent is that you upgrade it to the final form, the first form is mostly pointless.

BRUH
feathers and meat my guy
they gave the meat eater infanate meat.    imagen never having to make a crockpot or fire again, no more monster meat, just a happy wig with all her songs and meat

birds also provide naughty points so MEAT1 FEATHERS2 NAUGHTY3    all with a simple craft that takes nothing to make. goats are easy to kill at night and respawn like beefbois so you can acquire a horn with ease. the problem with the upgrade is the static part, it should be touch lightning rod like wx or lightning struck like wx.

BUT once you get the upgrade you one tap spiders, one tap elemental hounds, 2 tap hounds, infanate goat milk for ice cream, shock your wx friend with ease, repairs itself and a weapon that dose 1.5 (should be upgraded to 2.5 for one tap grumbles just saying) X damage to toad, bee, goose and any unfortunate water mob that comes across wig.

FREE MEAT I SAY!

2 hours ago, Swiyss said:

They could add brightshade and void crafts for her. I think I saw a topic about a commanders helm with brightshade so that would be cool. Idk about balancing that tho.

na then its just endgame character vs just giving her crafts that are great all game long.

like a saddle that gives 40% speed boost is useful
a weapon that deals 65 damage instead of 59 like a ham bat ( ham bat damage is always bad, need dark sword damage always)
a helm that resists knockback, has 90% damage absorb (NOT 80 like come on the shield has 85%) that should also automatically make all weapons electrified (2.5 times damage not 1.5)
and maybe have more battle stingers like a wetness song (sobbing fury) that makes enemy's wet for 3min.
a battle stinger that gives wigfrid 60% battle damage for 10 seconds (gose on 30 second cooldown) name warriors delight

 

change the fire song to ACTUALLY burn and deal 3x damage to fire targets (high risk might burn rewards BUT 3x damage is a massive reward) worth the inspiration

11 hours ago, black hole said:

I don’t think Wigfrid’s Lightning Spear is a very useful weapon. After killing a lot of sheep and collecting two horns, I can only get a durability of 150, and the attack power is not higher than the ham bat. I don’t know what I can do with this weapon. I can’t bear to use it when fighting small monsters, and I can’t use one spear to kill Boss. Also, the loot from the Boss may not be more valuable to me than the sheep horns. So what can this exclusive weapon do?

it deals more damage then the ham bat because the ham bat dose 59 and decays vs 59 and a dash that dose 89 (better then ham back dew to killing small mobs for meat)

[black hole]

10小时前，翔子说：

冲刺攻击不会降低耐久度，因此你可以用它来杀死鸟类和其他东西。是的，它不是很有用，但也不是没用的哈哈。显然，其目的是将其升级到最终形式，第一种形式大多毫无意义。

是的，你是对的。这把长矛可以通过升级有效。但是，如您所知，升级需要难以获得的约束静态。所以，当我可以升级时，我几乎已经完成了大部分游戏。你指望我回去用升级的长矛欺负蜘蛛吗？

[Embernode]

On 12/5/2023 at 12:50 PM, Cruvimaster said:

If you can do this here with Wigfrid I will remain silent. Day 3.

 

 

[black hole]

Yes! We can allow the unassembled spear to temporarily gain the effects of an upgraded spear when struck by lightning, just like the principle of a robot being charged by lightning! This will greatly increase the playability of the spear before it is upgraded.