Azated Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 From what I understand, abysallite is supposed to be the ultimate insulator, not transferring heat in any way. However, it seems that when water touches cold abysallite, the water cools down, which in turn cools the surrounding environment. I was hoping someone could explain to me how this works, because I don't really know how the thermal conductivity and heat capacity is different here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risu Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Are you certain that it didn't just generate that way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatGameDota Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 World generation glitches all the time and parts of biomes spawn outside their abysslite borders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trukogre Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Risu said: Are you certain that it didn't just generate that way? I'm reasonably certain it generated as ice and then melted, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi01 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 23 minutes ago, trukogre said: I'm reasonably certain it generated as ice and then melted, actually. Water isn't naturally part of the caustic biome so ice that spawned outside of the ice biome is the only way there could even be water in that area in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Yeah... that's not cold seeping through the Abyssalite. That's the Abyssalite being drawn in not quite the right spot, and a slice of the Cold Biome ending up on the "wrong" side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 So with abyssalite it is an excellent thermal insulator but liquids in general have enough conductivity to overcome its resistivity, hence liquid oxygen builds either use a different material floor or wait for the abys to spal all of its heat off into the Lox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolthulhu Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 3 hours ago, Kabrute said: So with abyssalite it is an excellent thermal insulator but liquids in general have enough conductivity to overcome its resistivity, hence liquid oxygen builds either use a different material floor or wait for the abys to spal all of its heat off into the Lox Nope. There is no such mechanic for tile-to-tile transfer. There may be something like this for tile-to-building (where "building" is NOT a tile/door) transfer, because plastic tile can overcome abyssalite pipe's low conductivity, but you need temperatures in thousands to notice any transfer between tile of water (steam in this case) and a tile of abyssalite - constructed or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 tiles all transfer temperature........ we are missing each other somewhere but liquids definitely conduct through abysalite, and not at thousands of degrees, it seems to be driven by the melt/thaw point of the liquid involved, if the liquid is being applied where the abysalite is warmer than the liquids gas state the liquid pulls therms from the abysallite and converts to a gas. I watch it happen all the time. Usually the abysalite drops 10 degrees and 5k of Lox spalls to O2. Seeing as I watch it occur I can confirm it is a mechanism active in the game. Intended or not it is occuring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolthulhu Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Kabrute said: if the liquid is being applied where the abysalite is warmer than the liquids gas state the liquid pulls therms from the abysallite and converts to a gas. I watch it happen all the time. Usually the abysalite drops 10 degrees and 5k of Lox spalls to O2. You may be right, there is some rather poorly understood (and poorly documented) mechanism that makes small bits of resource change phase if next to a much hotter tile. I've seen it happen to ice, plastic tiles, water and (in debug) rock. I didn't see it happen with abyssalite, but it's plausible that this mechanism ignores temperature transfer rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donutman07 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I can confirm liquids transfer heat with raw abyssalite at a minimum. Made a cold biome much colder and liquified it's oxygen, all the tiles touching the oxygen changed temperature, the ones not directly touching the liquid remained unchanged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarStalkeR Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Abyssalite is indeed ultimate insulator, if used as resource to build structures. But if temperature of naturally created abyssalite is too low or too high, it will keep it, while affecting water and gas nearby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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