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All this heat reduction is super counterintuitive for new players it seems.

So the only "normal" way to make a heat reduction is to use abyssalite pipes and place heat reduction machines to hydrogen rooms with wheezworts?

I am not looking for dripping water exploit but the simplest way to cool down your gases and liquids.

Am I understanding it right -  main source of heating of the base is the pipes? And by passing around your base they heat up everything, so mining abyssalite should be a main priority?.

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Risu    249
41 minutes ago, Technoincubus said:

Am I understanding it right -  main source of heating of the base is the pipes?

Main source of heating in the base itself is the electrolyzer and probably batteries.
You'd think it'd be the steam geyser but it's only hot as long as there is water being taken from it, which is going where....
 

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brummbar7    457
7 hours ago, Technoincubus said:

I am not looking for dripping water exploit but the simplest way to cool down your gases and liquids.

The simplest way that doesn't potentially require exposing large regions of the map is lockers full of ice and snow, but eventually you'll run out of ice and snow (when I say eventually I mean really far out eventually), and you have to deal with the melt.  Wheezeworts don't melt or require filling and are infinite, but you'll have a limited quantity of them in the map.  Wheezeworts will also stifle if the area is already above a certain temperature, while ice and snow will not.

7 hours ago, Technoincubus said:

Am I understanding it right -  main source of heating of the base is the pipes? And by passing around your base they heat up everything, so mining abyssalite should be a main priority?.

They can be.  It depends on your strats.  If you pipe in water from geysers, and duct your electrolyzer gasses around, then yes, those ducts and pipes will spread heat around if not abyssalite.   If you use deoxidizers and don't cook mush bars and lice loaf, don't use showers, and switch over to hand sanitizers asap, you need almost 0 water, so you can get by for ages on your starting water, so you don't need geyser water for a long time, and also don't need electrolyzers for a long time either.  You'll have plenty of time to accumulate all the abyssalite you'll ever need.

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Lifegrow    238

This is getting to be a pretty long thread for a pretty straight forward concept ;)

My choice is to cool my oxygen, then heat my entire base. 

Easier to warm to a specific temperature than cool to it.

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Whispershade    109
3 hours ago, Lifegrow said:

This is getting to be a pretty long thread for a pretty straight forward concept ;)

My choice is to cool my oxygen, then heat my entire base. 

Easier to warm to a specific temperature than cool to it.

To be fair, there is a lot of nuance in how to manage the different factors. This is more directed at @Technoincubus , but one of the reasons I didn't want to offer specific build approaches to the problem is because we all sort of figure out what works best for us.

@Lifegrow, I think, tends to prefer to use wheezeworts spread across multiple electrolyzers and I guess heat his base if it gets to cold. That works well for him. But I don't like the unregulated nature of wheezewort cooling. So I lean more on Thermo Regulators than perhaps anyone. And my approach is to lock up my electrolyzers in abyssalite where they achieve their max operating temp in a thermally isolated room of around 71.5c. Pushed through 3 thermal regulators the oxygen comes out very consistently at around 29.5c and I pipe that around my base in granite ducts.

For me this helps regulate temperature both positively and negatively everytime dupes breathe. As if the air is heating up it always get replaced by something cooler.  If it is cooling down it heats it up. Always trying to push it to 29.5. Which is just on the upper end of dupe's ideal temp range.

But it is just part of a larger strategy and we all accomplish these things with different takes. @Lifegrow and I take it from different directions and there are yet more approaches to all these problems that we haven't necessarily considered. The core is to know how the buildings work to exploit them to your advantage.

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Lifegrow    238
8 minutes ago, Whispershade said:

But it is just part of a larger strategy and we all accomplish these things with different takes. @Lifegrow and I take it from different directions and there are yet more approaches to all these problems that we haven't necessarily considered. The core is to know how the buildings work to exploit them to your advantage.

Hah, I've done it all to be honest - just bored of power hungry thermo regs, I prefer to manage my temperatures via convoluted pressure systems nowadays - more of a challenge :D 

The electrolyzer capped builds (playing to their max temperature) were something everybody was doing as soon as they maxed the temperatures of the outputs - however it always struck me as a non-fluid way of managing your gasses, i.e. adjusting via pressure can allow less/more hydrogen production, etc.

Anywhoo, I wasn't trying to put a downer on the thread, merely pointing out that although a lot of people like to show off their "complex" (and often recycled) builds for handling a problem, sometimes a different perspective can present new solutions. Where the OP @Technoincubuswas asking how to cool their base due to their machinery/oxygen production heating everything up - my solution would be to use their cooled oxygen to fix everything, then gently warm their base to a perfect 20 degrees, for example :D 

There's no right or wrong solution as you so rightly say, horses for courses as ever with this game ;) 

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Whispershade    109
4 minutes ago, Lifegrow said:

The electrolyzer capped builds (playing to their max temperature) were something everybody was doing as soon as they maxed the temperatures of the outputs

Interesting, I didn't see a lot of that. It always seemed to me that most people around here and on reddit were trying to build the perfect "electrowheeze" configuration.

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Lifegrow    238
17 minutes ago, Whispershade said:

Interesting, I didn't see a lot of that. It always seemed to me that most people around here and on reddit were trying to build the perfect "electrowheeze" configuration.

It predates that, not sure you were a familiar face then :) 

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Exa    10
On 12/10/2017 at 2:52 PM, Saturnus said:

Very slow? It takes a few cycles.

My Black Pink Heart takes less than 6 cycles to get from 70C to -210C. And that's not even optimized for efficiency but rather because I like how it looks. And really discount the first cycle as I made some mistakes and had to change it so it only cooled 40C so degrees in the first cycle.

Debug save file below.

Black Pink.png

Cold Black Pink Heart.sav

My situation was different, I had a lot more oil because a needed it for liquify 70°c oxygen from 4 electrolizers via wolframite pipe radiator

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eloy2030    15

Whst I do Is cool things down with aquatuners and use that heat to boil water. Then the water can be fed directly to devices to ¨destroy¨ that heat.

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Saturnus    225
44 minutes ago, Exa said:

My situation was different, I had a lot more oil because a needed it for liquify 70°c oxygen from 4 electrolizers via wolframite pipe radiator

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