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Overpowered Wigfrid

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The Curator    1,138

Mentioned it multiple times in posts out of grudge, figured to bring it up in general. This is not a question, but it would be interesting to see if people have noticed it.

Because here is the breakdown of Wigfrid.

 

- 25% Attack Bonus

- 25% Defense Bonus

- Noticeable sanity and life siphoning from combat, allowing her to regenerate sanity and heal wounds autonomously

- Ability to mass produce head slot item with more durability then football helmet, which is more difficult to acquire

- Ability to mass produce hand slot item with more power and durability then spear

 

- Can only eat meat, a common item that makes up most of the games food

- Her equipment requires gold, which is an extremely easy resource to mass farm from rocks above and below ground

 

So. Wigfrid at her base is 50% stronger then the average character. She then can mass produce more powerful standard equipment which arguably makes her 50% stronger again in terms of endurance. She then also siphons energy from foes, which makes her potentially 25% stronger even more because she literally can heal her wounds and perpetually stay sane from participating in easy combat scenarios.

And all this is weighed out by, being a carnivore. Really, because most of the significant food in this game; is meat. And most of the significant recipes in this game; are meat. And the ultimate meta which can magically purify monster meat, meatballs, is also; meat. Literally, unless you are completely new to the game Wigfrid's gimmick is virtually inconsequential and only stops you from eating filler for quick satisfaction. And past a certain point, eating filler is already taboo anyway. And not being able to eat things like mushrooms and light fruit is meaningless when she already can regenerate sanity and health by fighting, and has massive benefits that far outweigh not being able to eat obscure utility foods.

 

Wigfrid is easy mode. Hundred percent. Because right out of spawn, she is capable of obliterating low tier enemies with no effort. Right out of spawn, she is capable of handling mid tier enemies like clockworks with minimal injury. And right out of spawn, she is capable of mass producing a constant stream of above average equipment which makes her standard arsenal better and more efficient then every other players with no downside. And right out of spawn, she can stay sane forever just by fighting weak mobs; and can constantly heal damage to require significantly less aid then other characters.

Having used Wigfrid as main for over thirty hours, can definitively say that she should not exist unless easy mode was an intended option. Actually stopped playing her because she makes the game so trivial by having a ceaseless arsenal, significant base combat superiority and self regeneration all at the cost of limiting what you can eat in a meaningless way. And her being a carnivore only makes the game less interesting because it means less of the food items you find are content you can access, you are just forced to default to not eating every single thing you can possibly find.

 

Nerf her, she completely defies logic. Why would Willow and her quirky abilities get nerfed when Wigfrid is over twice as strong as every other character at her base with no real downside.

 

Oh damn, Deerclops is coming. Should we find Klaus and acquire his key and use him to fight Deerclops? Should we run to the swamp and hope the tentacles deal with it. Should we spend boatloads of resources to make a toothtrap pit and hope that kills him? Should we make shadow equipment and gang up on him ourselves?

 

We got a Wigfrid. Just give her a hambat and a logsuit and she'll drop him quicker then a stone.

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JellyUltra    975

The battle helm and spear are only useful early game, Wigfrid's damage multiplier is overshadowed by Wolfgang's, her lifesteal isn't that great when health and sanity are trivial, and she's locked out of crockpot recipes like trail mix.

If you're worried about overpowered characters, you should be looking at WX-78, who has stupidly high stats, the incredibly broken "overcharge" mechanic, and no real downsides. Wolfgang, who has a x2 damage multiplier and a speed boost at full hunger, and no real downsides as long as you're good at the game. Or Wickerbottom, who can amass tons of basic resources, get early bundling wraps, farm krampus easily, and all sorts of other things with her books, without any downsides that should affect anyone who's survived a year.

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Hobgoblino    324

Yes, she's easy to play. Yes, she's not hard to keep fed. No, she's not the best character.

We already had a discussion about Wigfrid recently and that didn't go too well. Please, don't let this happen again.

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Luckcu13    63

The fact you consider Wigfrid overpowered, the fact that you prefer running around trying to get other mobs to kill Deerclops for you, the fact that you've never played Wolfgang (as stated in another thread), means that you should not be making drastic conclusions with any character. Wigfrid is a weaker ginger version of Wolfgang, newbs or people who are looking to play a more relaxed game will most often pick her. People like you caused Warly to get nerfed, let us not have that situation happen again.

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her helmet only good in early game? not really.. everyone loves her helmet, no matter when. 

her spear is kinda meh, people prefer dark sword. 

 

and no one is sad she cannot eat trail mix when she can easily heal herself with pierogis. it just bores people that she cannot eat other things but its nothing to be sad about. 

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Astroknot    493

Wigfrid is far from a overpowered character, in my opinion she is one of the three most balanced characters in the game (Those characters being: Wigfrid, Wilson, and Wendy). Compared to Wolfgang Wigfrid is only average and if you want to talk overpowered characters, take a look at Wolfgang, Wickerbottom and WX-78. Being balanced isn't a bad thing and Wigfrid is still a great character just not Wolfgang levels of good. I'm also not gonna keep replying to this thread as it is likely to lead to lots of fighting. Have a nice day!

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Astroknot    493

(I also think this thread should be closed as I have read that 15 page forum topic on this before I made my account.)

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ImDaMisterL    17,713
17 minutes ago, Destros09 said:

Please not another one @ImDaMisterL please shut this down there is already a 15 page long thread on this

Alright, two things...

1 - It is true, there's already a thread for discussing this topic here: 

Although it hasn't gotten any content in almost a month, if the topic is still relevant, further posts and discusion should be made there.

2 - If someone has an opinion, it's not okay to just ask for it to be shut down because it was discussed before and already has a solution, or an answer that the community agreed on. Klei appreciates any and all kinds of feedback.

I will be locking this thread, not because it's a "this char is OP/UP" but because there is already a thread to dicuss this character.

If you disagree with an opinion and wish to state why, you may friendly discuss and state your counter opinions. If you don't wish to take part in a discussion, simply don't say anything.

As long as the discussion remains constructive and civil, I see no reason to lock it.

Thanks for understanding guys, and have a good day :)

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