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  1. So I read @Tim S.s topic about portals and dimensions lore, it really inspired me that things that I thought were meaningless could be connected in some way. So I went back and looked at some old things, trying to explain the ultimate question: Why does The Constant work in such a strange way in all senses? Let's start with Wagstaff. As you know, Wagstaff's quotes focus on how he looks at this different world and wonders at how it works. So what did he see? Let me put it this way: it's more Gameplay than special physics. For most games, something like breaking the fourth wall is usually designed as a little easter egg, but Wagstaff is clearly significant to Don't starve lore, and it's unlikely that the developers would have written so many string just to make people laugh, which leads me to believe that the lines make sense. The fact that Wagstaff noticed these and the other characters didn't might have something to do with Wagstaff being "out of the world". but that's not what I want to talk about. We've long known that Maxwell also had some fourth wall breaking stuff, but it used to be thought of as a little Easter Egg to make people laugh. Let's take another look. It's not hard to understand. Real world gold is soft. Making tools out of gold only happens in the game. So why tallbird are a "failure", The Constant is full of strange creatures, what's so special about tallbird? the only answer is: they will kill their children. Maxwell caused this to happen, even though he didn't want to. Whichever way you look at it, this move looks more like a "programming oversight" than a biological habit. Remember how long this was mistaken for a bug? Tallbird attacks all living things near the nest. Small bird is near the nest. Tallbird attack small bird. May I take this to imply that Maxwell's way of remaking the world from the Nigthmare Throne is akin to programming? Keep going, older and darker secrets: Forbidden Knowledge Trailer Puzzle In this puzzle, there is a message written to the player in the name of Maxwell. It said "My associates at Klei Entertainment", and talked about how it felt like they'd developed Don't starve together. (laugh) Return to Wagstaff. This quotes tells us that the throne is also a portal that can link worlds, which explains why Maxwell is still able to talk to the player at the beginning of the game while stuck on the throne (the black portal at his feet was the throne), but it also leads me to think of another possibility: Maxwell passes through the fourth wall through the throne and touches developers and the game code. And so, in a sense, he becomes one of game developer. That's why he was able to create the world from Nigthmare Throne. So Klei entertainment has such a good working system because they use shadow magic to kidnap game characters to work for them. Once you start thinking about it, you can see how the multiple dimensions of The Constant are similar to a game save or server. If you take them as the same thing. It explains why completing the adventure mode in a single player game using a different save will see the same character you used last time, as there are many dimensions and only one throne. It also explains how the portal Maxwell and Wilson built led DS story to DST story. The last part of the theory concerns shadow realm. I'm not very confident about it so I saved it for last. "Go to the dark side and be on top of the world."——Triumphant Wigfrid skin description "The shadow realm is pretty much the same as here, just darker."——Triumphant Woodie skin description The Throne may teleport people to the Shadow Realm. "Greetings, mortal. Come to receive gifts from the Shadow realm? You need only open your chests."——maigc skin collector The Shadow Realm is also outside the fourth wall, or the Shadow Realm is the source code itself something. Because it's where does skin this "quite gameplay" thing come from, probably, you know what I mean.
  2. MY THEORIES ARE IN SHAMBLES. But in all seriousness hi! You know what I'm here for and I know what you're here for. We're gonna look at the implication of the new lore added in this update and based on what I've seen, I can tell you that it's a doozy. Now first thing's first, you access the new content by socketing all 3 Celestial Stations (the Altar, Tribute, and Sanctum) near to each other and once you do that there's a Mysterious Energy that appears in the middle of them. This starts a chain of events, the most notable one being the new moonstorm event that happens. Randomly on your mainland you'll encounter a new storm event which is essentially a hurricane ravaging the land, causing lightning to strike and leave infused moonglass in its place. Not only that but every night until the event is over, it will be a full moon and insanity will be replaced by lunacy on the surface. The three celestial stations (the Sanctum, Tribute and Altar) all have a very distinct sound when they're active, almost like radio static when you're trying to find a frequency, or a Geiger meter when it detects radiation. I'm of the belief that these stations channel the moon's energy and by placing them all close together you channel an immense amount of it into the constant, which allows its to power to affect it greatly. Next, while exploring the moonstorm's area you'll encounter a face. A very familiar face... It's none other than Robert Wagstaff himself! The old inventory and central character to the story's finally made himself known, although he's not quite there. While it is most likely him, he's using a projection of himself to investigate the moonstorm. This is similar to his character in Don't Starve (the singleplayer game) where he has a projection effect on himself and a unique tag called 'outofworldprojected'. It should be noted that we see his actual body go into the constant in Winona's cinematic, so it seems likely that the real Wagstaff is somwhere safe in the constant while he projects himself and his tools to do his work while not risking his life. He gives us two blueprints, one of which is for an 'Incomplete Experiment' and asks for our assistance. We follow him and eventually he stumbles upon what he's looking for and asks for us to help him with containing it. After fighting off flocks of mutated crows and birds and finding his very obscure tools for him, he finishes his work and allows us to take the 'Restrainted Static' and the moonstorm ends, with another starting elsewhere. While his intentions for doing all of this are unclear, it appears he sealed away the source of the storm and intends for us to use it, as the Incomplete Experiment requires you to. Remember this? This is the experiment! You can construct it where the Mysterious Energy is and it gains the name of 'Lunar Siphonator' and you have to build it in 3 stages, with the final stage needing the Celestial Orb and all using the 'static' wagstaff contains which would be the power of the moonstorms, energy infused moonglass and physical energy from the storms called 'Moongleams'. Once you complete it, the Celestial Champion appears. This behemoth uses all 3 celestial stations for its forms, with it using the Sanctum, then the Altar, then the Crown respectively. Once you defeat it for a third time, Wagstaff shows up and steals the source of its energy, leaving it inactive and letting us get all the moon glass and moon rocks from it as well as the Enlightened Crown. The crown is said to whisper to the survivors and interestingly for Wendy, it makes it harder for Abigail to be seen. Given that Abigail's flower seems to use shadow magic to bind Abigail to it (given the crafting recipe requiring nightmare fuel, take this with a grain of salt though as obviously Abigail's flower isn't craftable in canon most likely. It's simply for gameplay mechanics), it would appear that the crown enhances us and is powered by celestial magic and since it weakens shadow magic around it. As for the Champion themselves, Wortox and Wickerbottom both imply that the Moon sent it down as it wasn't happy with us siphoning the magic from the Mysterious Energy and the Celestial Orb. Furthermore, its prefab name is 'AlterChampion'. Sound familiar? In my Forgotten Knowledge lore post I mentioned how Maxwell kept seeing a name in the Lunarune Glyphs and it was surmised to be 'Alter' by him. 'Alter' likely being the name of the lunar entity and the Celestial Champion being its strongest minion it can send down to defend itself from Wagstaff's machine and us. Winona seems to believe that Wagstaff might have planned to steal the energy from the champion since the beginning and WX seems to believe he isn't to be trusted, both of these characters having connections to him as Wagstaff was her boss back at the Voxola Factor and WX being an invention by Wagstaff himself. What does this all mean? I have no clue! Wagstaff coming back into the spotlight certainly means something though. Had it not been for him the characters likely would've never ended up where they are now since he was the one who invented the Radio, Gramaphone and Maxwell seemingly based the Teleportatos off of his own designs, including the ones leading to the throne (this is a discussion for another time however). What I do know however is this, Maxwell's given us some very key dialogue to piece everything together. Throughout this expansion Maxwell's made various comments related to Lunar stuff which implies the presence within them feels very familiar, but he shrugs off the possibility of what they could be. That is, until we defeat the Celestial Champion. When this expansion started, I began to believe the moon was Them. Eventually I settled back on thinking that perhaps the shadow entity from beyond the ancient gateway is Them. But now this had me thinking, what if it's both and even more? What if Them refers to a collective of unknowable entities that exist within the world of Don't Starve? This sounds crazy at first but consider this, the moon's power has been increasing lately and it was once worshipped by the Ancients, similar the shadow entity. The shadow entity lies in a dimension beyond the Ancient Gateway. The only dimensions we can currently access through the Gateway would be the Forge and the Gorge. The Forge contains Pugna, who felt betrayed by the Throne and Them and was seemingly abandoned and exiled by Them. The Gorge contains the Gnaw, an immensely large mouth in the sky which has the ability to turn people into Merms if its endless appetite isnt satisfied. What if They were all sealed away and the gateway dimensions are where they were all primarily kept? What if Pugna's dimension was abandoned by the entity which once resided there, leaving Pugna and the Gnaw is another one of Them? It would explain why the gateway dimensions exist to begin with and account for the shadow entity. It would also explain Mumsy and Pugna referring to us as 'Gatekeepers'. During the course of both events they would ask if we were Gatekeepers and refer to us as such. In the Metheus Puzzle we can see that one of the Ancients would control the Gateway to channel nightmare fuel from the shadow entity in another dimension. That Ancient could've been a gatekeeper, who has the authority to access these dimensions for various reasons such as seeking power or favor from Them. Furthermore I initially thought that Metheus could be the queen of the ancients perhaps but given the focus on the shadow entity and our 'presence' being noticed by something when we complete it, along with the moon entity likely being called 'Alter' it could be that the shadow entity is in fact Metheus. This would mean that the Return of Them isn't just one entity like Metheus or Alter but infact, multiple entities, likely through the use of the Gateway or a newly constructed gateway. The Sealed Portal may be used in all of this. The characters including Maxwell and Wortox both allude to it being a way out of the constant and it may very well be but it could potentially have other uses as well. After all, we're not sure why the Ancients would build a portal that has access to Earth, but it's possible. It could also explain how the Codex Umbra ended up on Earth and in the hands of Maxwell, who knows. That's just my two cents on what this could all mean and what this is leading up to though. I've been wrong before and I'll likely be wrong again in the future so don't take what i say as gospel. I'm not sure if Charlie's plans have accounted for Wagstaff's interference or if Wagstaff and Charlie are potentially working together. We can theorise for now but for the time being we don't have enough evidence to assume where this is all going. Previously I believe that the Mysterious Energy would bring about some unknowable entity and we would fight them and Charlie would take it for her plans and that proved to be mostly right, save for it being Wagstaff instead of Charlie. Now we're left in the blind. All we know is that Wagstaff is on the move with extremely powerful celestial magic, Charlie is still on the move to finish her plans and They are going to return, and if my theory is right then when They return, it's going to be absolute chaos. Alot of people seem to think the story of Don't Starve Together is coming to a close but given all the build up we've had and what's to come, I think we're just getting started. But again, I could be wrong. Thank you so much for reading all of this if you've read it until the end! I'm currently working on a document compiling all the lore for the game for everyone to enjoy. I need to modify it to accomodate for the new information from this beta and I have alot of schoolwork to take care of as well so I should have it out by the time the update is officially out! Give or take some time. That's all for now, see you around!
  3. First off, my main point for this is related to his name in the code. Which is "wagstaff_npc" and "wagstaff_npc_pstboss" What I'm gonna start off with is why didn't they just name him "wagstaff" if he was never going to be playable. Since the only other NPC in the game is Pearl and her name in the code is "hermitcrab" instead of "hermitcrab_npc" In this next portion most of this is common knowledge to people on the forums but Maxwell's NPC variant is named "maxwell" while his playable character is named "waxwell" so even if Wagstaff's name in the code was just "wagstaff" he could still be playable. A very common argument against him being playable is "Oh it would be very strange to see 2 Wagstaffs" even though in DST there can be up to 6 of the same character. I've experienced servers with 3 Wendys all just slaughtering spiders. So what's the difference between that and an NPC of a character?
  4. Wagstaff is a fan fav character, I like him too, I love the detail in how his voice and appearance get more distorted as he loses health, his nearsightedness flaw is genius, and I love the Thumper, Telebrella and Telepad. There's one thing though I don't like about wagstaff though. He can't be added to DST. Let me explain. Wagstaff's main perks are his engineering tab, the electrical doodad, and being able to spot hidden dangers. "This would make a great character though, why can't he be added?" said every fan ever. Well. simply put, all his features have been given to other people. The electrical doodad is not Wagstaff exclusive anymore, his ability to spot hidden dangers was given to wurt, a similar engineering tab has already been given to Winona, and his telebrella and telepad have already sorta been implemented poorly with the Lazy deserter and Desert stones. Adding wagstaff is completely redundant as he's just a package of already implemented features. The only features of his that haven't been implemented in some way is the thumper, and his glasses types. And the glasses really only benefit him, and the thumper kinda undermines shadow loggers/mners/shovelers. Wagstaff would serve no gameplay value being added, the only value I can see being added from wagstaff showing up is lore. Because they'd have to change him much more drastically than other characters to put him in. Klei removed Warbucks because he wasn't fun to play, (That and Idt you can get oincs in SW) and Wagstaff is basically a mix of all these features of different characters/items. While I know fans would love him implemented it just isn't worth it.
  5. So judging by the latest update, any hope for Wagstaff being a playable character was completely thrown out the window. However, I was wondering if his other perks, mainly his inventions, could still be something we could snag for ourselves? There's a lot of creative potential to be had for his inventions. The telebrella works in the caves and is a very cheap way to do short-medium distance travel on the surface as well, which is handy for lategame purposes when you need to travel to more places more frequently. Similarly, his thumper could be used for lategame "automation" of tasks, since while a bit pricey, it would be a very effective method of chopping small to medium amounts of trees, and might even have interesting applications for stuff like marble shrubs! For the record, I do think his inventions should be gated to where we normally encounter him (moonstorm/post celestial champion's defeat). What I was thinking is that if the celestial champion was killed, Wagstaff could hand blueprint(s) as a "thanks" from him. It would still mean you would need to get all 3 altars and beat the new boss to try out the unique crafts. What do people think? I know they would technically be seen as character exclusive crafts, I could see them being repurposed as a lategame reward for helping Wagstaff and lessening some general tasks that people do struggle with otherwise.
  6. I wanted to get this out before any possible update tomorrow. I present my case for Wagstaff being a villain in the DS/T story, and specifically the villain and a big boss encounter (if not the final boss). Obviously a supervillain Making the case for Wagstaff being a villain character is not hard. We can start with the writing in his quotes (which is my favorite bit of writing in the Hamlet era of DS singleplayer by the way). Have you ever sat down and read through Wagstaff's quotes and realized, wow, he's evil isn't he? Just a straight up supervillain? I've selected a few quotes to illustrate this and put them in 3 handy categories: Totally Normal things for someone to say Nightmare Amulet = "It uses dark fuel to induce psychic attack! I love it." Bunnyman = "I much prefer their darker form." Light Flower = "Is it radioactive? I hope so." Life Giving Amulet = "Finally a way to experience what death is like!" Maxwell's Mosquito Trap = "Inspired brutality!" Gunpowder = "An ingenious invention. Capable of much destruction." Living Log = "I do wish logs at home were similarly afflicted." Clockwork Rook = "Such admirable clockwork! I will examine it more closely when I destroy it." Dessicated Tentacle = "Marvelous! A severed limb!" Palm Treeguard = "If I could only take such possessed topiaries home with me!" White Whale = "How rare! I must hunt it!" Watery Grave = "The deceased won't mind if I raid their graves." Blunderbuss = "A magnificent killing instrument. Such a sleek design." Aporkalypse Calendar = "Wonderful! I wonder if I could make the world end sooner." Unscrupulous Businessman/Repeating mistakes of the past Snake Oil- "Ah, I made a fortune selling such concoctions in my youth." Obelisk (inactive) = "I would very much like to introduce this technology to the population back home." Dark Sword = "Dark fuel forged into a fascinating weapon! Its military applications are endless!" Piratihatitator (generic)= "If I could return home with this machine, I could revolutionize the world!" Piratihatitator (burnt) = "My plans for a scientific revolution have gone up in flames." Queen Malfalfa = "Are you a patron of the sciences by any chance?" Smelter = "Magnificent! Perhaps I can build a factory here as well." His Great Purpose/Scientific Revolution Divining Rod Holder (unlocked) = "Eureka! My destiny awaits!" Nightmare Throne = "I've found it! The portal that can link worlds! The throne of ultimate power!!" Nightmare Fuel = "I must find a way to return with this. It will revolutionize the world!!" Touch Stone = "Another chance to fulfill my destiny!" Sail Stick = "A superlative utilization of dark fuel. The world will be better for its introduction!" Pugalisk Wand = "Another vanguard device I could use to bring the world to a new age!" (Fun little note: The Nightmare Throne and Nightmare Fuel Wagstaff quotes are the only ones of his that ends with double exclamation points!!) Sure, his quotes show that Wagstaff is clearly good villain material, but we can go further and prove that he is the perfect villain for DS/T. In my opinion a good villain for a specific story has to be a "dark reflection" of the protagonist. My favorite example is Batman and the Joker. This dynamic brings balance to a story and bridges any opposing themes within, such as Science vs Magic in DS. DS already does this with Wilson and Maxwell. They are 2 sides of the same coin, similar in some ways and opposite in others. I can see similar parallels between Wagstaff and Maxwell, Wagstaff and Wilson, and even Wagstaff and Winona. This sets up his potential as a major antagonist almost too well. Wagstaff is on the very end of the Science spectrum, yet vastly different from Wilson. Wilson is a hobby scientist, and a bad one at that. Before the Constant Wilson was a loner in a shabby house with not much to his name. Conversely, Wagstaff was a successful inventor, businessman, and a master of many scientific disciplines (as shown through many of the observations in his quotes). His perks involve actually building things, as opposed to Wilson whose special power is growing facial hair (although, he does technically have inventions in DST, but they are not exclusive to him/can be made by anyone). Winona builds things, too, but her buildings are themed around helping her friends to survive. Wagstaff makes things that only help himself or destroy things for his benefit. Compared to Maxwell, Wagstaff is also a person who knows a lot about the Constant. One funny way they're similar is how Wagstaff makes meta observations of the game-like nature of the DS world. Maxwell does this, too, but in a way that seems like he is aware that he's in a game. There is also the dramatic irony in how Wagstaff talks about the Nightmare Fuel versus Maxwell's familiarity with its dangers. Wagstaff sees it as a resource to exploit, which is a major red flag. We know how wrong that can go because of what the game, especially Maxwell, has told us about its history: that the Ancient Civilization overused it to their eventual destruction. It should also be noted how much work was put into humanizing Maxwell, the villain of the singleplayer game. He had a whole outside-of-the-game story campaign just for explaining his background. Wagstaff has not been given this treatment, and in fact his character works a lot better as the destruction-loving capitalist science man with questionable morals, sans any sympathetic traits. This would make him a stronger final villain as well, even in the wake of Maxwell's stint as the big bad. Wagstaff legitimately is the worst person to have this power, while Maxwell is more of a normal man who got in way over his head. Maxwell also at least seems a little remorseful for his wrongdoings as Nightmare King, especially in regards to Charlie who was innocent collateral damage. Wagstaff doesn't feel like the kind of person to feel bad for any of the hurt he causes, especially since he has "well-intentioned" goals for revolutionizing the world. If Wagstaff is the villain character I imagine him to be, then there is another mirroring with Maxwell that I think balances out quite nicely: Maxwell is originally presented as the villain of DS singleplayer, where he is slowly hyped up as the final boss battle of the game, but this is revealed to be a red herring when finding him and releasing him is simple and underwhelming. He then becomes a playable character. Wagstaff is hyped as a huge character in the lore but is then retroactively added as a default playable character in the singleplayer game, which is underwhelming, but this is later revealed to be a red herring when he shows up in DST as a true final boss fight. Not Like Other Survivors Another big reason why Wagstaff is a/the villain of DST is because he cannot work as a playable DST character. This could just be because he was designed as a singleplayer character, and could be changed to work with a multiplayer environment. However, I think there is enough evidence that this likely isn't the case. Wagstaff's perspective on the Constant is unique from all other characters we've seen so far. He brought himself to the Constant and he sees himself as an explorer of it, not a victim. He was clearly aware of the place before he came there, unlike pretty much everyone. As far as we know, he was not tempted to build a portal the way Wilson was in "Forbidden Knowledge". Since he is so different, I feel like he is specifically built not to mesh with the other characters, which makes his inclusion in the DST cast seem unlikely or at least uncomfortable. Because he chose to be in the Constant, his motivations run counter to that of all other Survivors. His goal is to not escape and go home, but to essentially colonize the Constant and create a permanent connection to it and the real world. He wants to bring back many things from the Constant, and he wants to exploit its resources, namely the Nightmare Fuel. If he were to join the others in DST, I think they would find his goals too distasteful considering all that they've been through. Wagstaff frequently expresses a strong desire to communicate with others about the Constant. By the nature of DS singleplayer itself he is never satisfied. Even when he can speak to others, such as some of the Pig Traders, he somehow cannot get them to answer specific things. This is a strong conflict of his character that would be pointless in DST where he can have free access to Maxwell, the Atrium, and now the Ancient Archive. He even says many times that he wants to speak to Maxwell specifically. Being in DST would make things way too easy for him, and for us. That is not good writing. This may seem like a strange reason, but the fact that he distorts at low HP (which I will refer to as his "projection" due to the "outofworldprojected" tag in his prefab file) is an indication of some sort that he is not a living being like the other characters we can play as. DST is the only time playable characters can become ghosts when they die. This to me feels like a disqualification for being a DST character as well as a very suspicious quirk that can only work in DS singleplayer. If Klei was to bring him to DST they'd have to change this a lot or at the very least explain it in a satisfying way. Speaking of Wagstaff's "projection", it has to be one of the most intriguing parts of his character. It is the one thing that brings his presence in DS singleplayer in question. What is meant by this projection? Is he really there? If he isn't, then where is the real Wagstaff? Why is he projecting himself like this? Another intriguing aspect of his character is his relationship to the Divining Rod and the Divining Rod base. Wagstaff (or at least his projections) recognize that the radio and the base are his technology, however he does not seem to know why they are there. This is significant because the Rod and the Base are the key and lock behind the Nightmare Throne itself. Whoever built these things is a huge piece of information. Because of the doubts and questions Wagstaff creates, it feels like his whole presence in DS is a red herring, and his true potential has yet to be reached. A potential, mind you, that was highly anticipated. Wagstaff has been in the lore for a very long time, but only as a name in a 2013 forum post by Kevin Forbes. Being added to DS after so much time was such a cool surprise to us lore obsessed fans. Which is why him dead-ending in the singleplayer game feels... odd. Once he reaches the end of Adventure Mode and finds the Nightmare Throne he rejoices at his success at finding "the throne of ultimate power!!" But once he sits on the throne... nothing special happens. He ends up with the same fate as all the others. It could just be a fitting tragic ending for this man, which is perfectly in line with a game like DS singleplayer. But with all the unanswered questions surrounding Wagstaff and everything he's involved with, it just doesn't sit right with me. There has to be more. My Theory I wanted to end this with a cool big theory about where Wagstaff actually is with lots of detail, but with so little info to go by I only have quick wild hunches. Basically, I think Wagstaff is on the other throne which is on the moon. It ties together this recent moon theming pretty well, and I like the idea of Wagstaff being the White king as opposed to Maxwell and Charlie being the Black king and queen (following the chess theming in DS). I actually came up with this idea before the Forgotten Knowledge update, so I have some hopes that the inactive portal in the Ancient Archive is the portal to this moon throne room. And that "5 guys" teaser image for the next update looks suspiciously like Wagstaff's work, which utilizes what looks like the Celestial Orb (moon magic). I hope this at least got some of your gears' turning! Thanks for reading. (Also if I'm right and we see the true Wagstaff again... I hope that he's wearing only one glove.)
  7. Up until a few months ago, the DS lore was a very simple timeline that went something like this: -Prequel stuff happens -Max and Charlie sucked in -Stuff happens -Non-Wilson characters are sucked in -Voxila fire -Wilson is sucked in -Adventure mode -Charlie boots Wilson off the throne -Wilson and Max team up, DST starts -Winona enters sometime after everyone else -Ancient gateway is discovered, events start. And now the DS timeline looks like this: -Prequel stuff happens -Max and Charlie sucked in -Stuff happens -Non-Wilson characters are sucked in -Voxila fire, Winona and Wagstaff are sucked in. The most confusing thing is that queen Charlie appears, even though Maxwell is on the throne at this point? -Wilson is sucked in -Adventure mode -Charlie boots Wilson off the throne. -Wilson and Max team up, DST starts -Winona enters the constant..........? -Ancient gateway is discovered, events start. -Wortox -Return of Them happens, meaning Wilson and co now have plot amour or are in two places at once. -Wormwood and Warly. Things we don't have a time for: -SW and Hamlet, must occur before ROT. -DS Wagstaff, must occur before he's sucked in. If someone can please explain to me how this works, that would be highly appreciated.
  8. All credits to Sundra for this theory, me for formatting and writing. PART 1: Lets just get the big thing out of the way first. We do not meet Wagstaff in DS. Well, we do. But that's not REALLY Wagstaff. Wagstaff's sitting at home eating scones on his armchair of whatever he does, while he's using the PR-76 (PRojection device) to attune himself to the Constant or wherever you are. He is nothing but a projection, a man half in the world, hence why he still interacts with it. Proof: PART 2: This is when it starts to get confusing. Wagstaff see's WX, and other robotic creations like the Clockworks. This is possible because time in the constant, as quoted by Maxwell: "Makes no ******* sense dude"-real Maxwell quote Wagstaff creates WX-78 (IRL) to form as a means to access the constant in more... efficient means, allowing him to truly interact with the one thing he desires. The nightmare throne, the secret to ultimate power. Oh, but how does he meet WX? The nightmare throne, the secret to ultimate power. Again. When Wagstaff takes the throne from WX, he leaves (the throne appears empty when the player next reaches it), and sets his ULTIMATE PLAN into action. Proof: PART 3: Wagstaff begins work on his very own portal, not dissimilar to Wilson, through which he shall send WX-78. He designs his voxila radio to be tuned to the constant in order to receive instructions from Maxwell, or whoever's in control. He activates it, sends in WX and than meets the night creature. Needless to say, they don't hit it off great and he gets pulled in. For realsies this time. In the ensuing chaos, one of his workers is sucked in and the factory burns down. COMPLETE TIMELINE: Once again, kudos for Sundra for all the work. I just wrote it down and put in funnies.
  9. DO NOTE: for this entire theory I am ASSUMING that Wagstaff is one of the upcoming characters to DS, as this seems likely with the information we have been given. This might however, prove to be incorrect. This is a just a quick theory I thought up that explains like... 3 things, but should be a good base for other theory's. We know from the little description included that Wagstaff, or whoever that is, "mysterious inventor who finds himself exactly where he wanted to be". I hear the Constant is a amazing holiday location. Alright, here's what I make of this. Wagstaff discovered something to do with the Constant. This must be a pretty interesting thing, because he wanted to get it. Bad. So much so, that he abandoned his life and fortune to find it. Through some work of science, magic, or divine interference, he finds himself in the DS multiverse-y thing that's connected through the ancient portal. But not in the constant. So, he travels through all the worlds, being mistaken as a gatekeeper by each one, until he finally finds the constant. Not much, but something.
  10. OML READ THE POST SKRUBLORDS Maxwell's lines change after you save her. He can tell the difference. His Adventure mode lines also change. Charlie, oh charlie. Maxwell escaping the throne had some bad consequences? Charlie is not one of Them Charlie is human. It is not her being that attacks them. It is her mind. They force her. Her being is banished to the tropical islands to rot forever Until... Fid messes up her name, Wilson arrives to save her! Then gets shanked Wilson searches for her, but only one man is rumoured to know of her whereabouts, and locked in a cage for all eternity, the key thrown to a stupid Dodo. Woodlegs. He has a map to her... but when he arrives? A flower was left, a rose (or some crap) The second he grabs it, whimpers are heard in the distance, and an amount of radio static. Wagstaff is trying to comfort Charlie, but fails, and when Woodlegs runs up to her? "STOP!" He is grabbed by shadow hands. He must go through 6 worlds to save his DamselInDistress She's locked in the BDSM Nightmare Throne Wagstaff is constantly tormented by screams from his radio. Why did she have to burn that factory? Why? Charlie is freed, but They are stronger. They want her back And they will do ANYTHING, to get her. TL;DR - READ IT SCRUB Charlie's perks and drawbacks. Nightmare Shadows attack her at night. Well, just one. Mr Skits wants his wife back. Her sanity drains at a double rate of normal at night, but she is used to Maxwellian evil flowers. One way or another, She will find the Magician. (Wagstaff is never seen again, instead disappearing, running away. Cue DST and he's made it through the portal. Through the Ages, he has seen some crap. He was beaten to hell and back. But why did the demon do it? FIND OUT NEXT TIME.) WILSON DIDN'T MAKE THE PORTAL. HE DIDN'T MAKE THE RADIO. HE REINVENTED WAGSTAFF'S CREATIONS. *Castawallace lies dying on an island.* One SW Character is auto-unlocked cus why not Dunno where this belongs, but you will love it anyway.