DimaB77

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  1. I don't know English very well (my language is Russian, and I studied German at university). So I would be happy to get any help. If anyone has free time, they can edit at least the grossest mistakes in the text. It is not even necessary to register on the site, I did not protect the articles from edits.
  2. Which one of you is right? (I don't know, tell us)
  3. In response to this request: as well as to the requests from the Russian site, I wrote 2 articles (Temperature and Coolants), dedicated to the very basics of the game. It seems to have liked these articles, those who asked the question. But I'm not so sure about it. It's not hard to build a new circuit: you just need to have experience in the game, a little bit of engineering thinking, plus attention to detail and time to test and refine it. Writing an understandable article, in plain language is not easy: you need to have the gift of teaching, which I (as it seems to me) and many others, lack. In addition, added errors and inaccuracies in translation. Do you think anyone needs articles like this, or am I wasting my time, and my readers?
  4. If you don't mind, give me a link to Francis John's dining room and food storage option (I couldn't find it on his YouTube channel). Maybe he has an interesting solution to add to the article.
  5. There is a more complete screenshot (a couple of points are not clear).
  6. Do you only need the design for food storage? Do you think this is enough and others will want to replicate your design? Are we playing the same game? Okay. Here's a food-only design (it's Rime, it will last for hundreds of cycles). It is 10000000 times easier than yours and infinitely more efficient (7W/0=∞): Do you really want to compare the effectiveness of TR and AT? Do you need to explain that AT is much more effective than TR? You have shown a stump of a circuit. It is not a complete solution. No one is interested in it. I repeat: most people want a complete solution and not your theory. In this thread have already presented their schemes: Tranoze, sakura_sk and me. Do you have something to show? Thank you for the complete answer. There are no options left, the right way to freeze the food itself, and saving a few watts is not worth the possible problems (then it is not clear why this topic was created at all). I'm getting out of here. Sorry if I offended anyone.
  7. Everyone knows how to freeze something without you: you can dump food into a cold biome, into a chamber with a Thermo-Nullifier, Wheezewort, into a AT circuit, etc. (there are plenty of examples on YouTube. I have a separate article with 10 ways to refrigerate). You are suggesting a new way to store food. Do you have a complete solution ready so we can compare its effectiveness with my solution? You write, "my scheme is better." How is it better? Where is the scheme? One TR is not a scheme. You are not able to add the necessary functions of delivery, automatics, etc.? For others to be able to replicate this, the scheme must be: 1. ingredients should be served from the outside: mushroom, berry, wheat, etc. 2. they must be stored. 3. they must be used to make a dish 4. the finished dish must be stored 5. the dupes must get it quickly and easily 6. all of this (except cooking), should be done without dupes Again: do you have a scheme that allows for this or at least some of it or just a concept? It's a simple question. Can you answer it?
  8. Hjoyn, We take time away from each other, and worse, from those who read us. Let's put an end to this. Theory is a good thing. I appreciate all those who make interesting discoveries in this game. I say that sincerely. But 99% of players don't need theory (and that's fine). They want schemes. They want to come home after work/study, put together a simple and straightforward circuit and get a profit out of the action. Give us your complete scheme, and we'll easily compare them. Players, instead of reading 2 pages, will get an actual working solution.
  9. Yes, we have gone very far. Which is not pretty and right. I apologize for the invective on my part. Instead of comparing specific schemes, we have already broken several keyboards in an attempt to prove something to each other. Now we'll wait for a scheme from Hjoyn, and we'll compare them. It won't be hard. The entire food supply is refrigerated in the gas cages. Only the food that the doubles need at the moment is moved to the refrigerator. This technique eliminates the need to build airlocks, create a vacuum, and other unnecessary ********. They just walk up to the fridge and take food from it. Simple, isn't it?
  10. Here's the winner! We're going back to the beginning. I asked if it was true what Tranoze wrote (you have to refrigerate the food itself). Either they don't want to answer me, or they can't. I'll ask again (without the theory, please): is what Tranoze wrote true? Is it better to refrigerate the food itself, not just the gas? It would take me 5 minutes to transmit the diagrams. But I can't hear the answer. Do you think he's wrong? Again, I don't have an opinion on this, but I wouldn't have any trouble redoing the schematics. Easily! They don't contradict anything. By cooling the food, you will automatically cool the gas around it. If, for the sake of SAFETY, it is worth cooling both the food and the gas, then it would be more correct to do it at the same time. Ha, that's new. It changes the approach. Where was this discussed? It's understandable as it is. I had a complaint to you: "I need 1 kg of chlorine". It would have been appropriate to give a framework from and to. Or justify a hard set value. Otherwise you won't be understood. Where is less effective? In what? Chlorine is. It's refrigerated. The food is not refrigerated. Instead of the ineffective TR I use the more effective AT. I don't have any airlock, vacuum or any other nonsense. The scheme is more compact, quicker to build. And let's compare the efficiency by all parameters: -energy consumption -construction time -time to get up and running -quantity of materials -room size -room decor -food preservation What else did you forget? Suggest it! And see what's more effective and what's not. Would it be weak to record a video? Or just come to chat? And by the way, I still can't wait to hear the full diagram from you: ingredient storage. the kitchen warehousing of finished products distribution to the dining room. Or do you have doubles do everything by hand and run through TR? Show us your creation, don't be shy!
  11. Several I understand, there are two approaches and two groups of people who support these approaches: 1. It is necessary to cool the gas only. You don't need to cool the food. This is the opinion you hold. This is what your scheme is based on. 2. It is necessary to cool both the gas and the products. Any of the schemes I have suggested can work on both principles. Specifically, I (and some other people) follow the second approach. Because it is safer, but not very energy-consuming. This is not the correct conclusion. You have already cooled the gas at startup. Next you are cooling the incoming products. Cools down 100500 kcal of food. There is 1 day's supply available. This is a great approach. The basic food is saved. A day's supply (4800 kcal), without refrigeration loses only 13% per day and will be eaten much sooner than spoiled. That's not true. It's enough to breathe in the dupes. But it doesn't matter, because we have to chill the food itself. And it makes no difference whether chlorine, CO2 or oxygen will be there. Anything at all. That's how the translator translated it. What was meant was that if the dupes bring more than 1 kg, it will be melted down to a pressure of 1900, and the rest of the stone will be left lying around as garbage. Which is not to everyone's liking. This is a quick fix option. The idea is that the chlorine from the bottom conveyor is cooled by a metal tile. It was possible to transfer the heat by bridges, through a thermal tile. I have no concerns. I have much simpler schemes that work. With or without chlorine. Whether it's food cooled or just gas cooled. Just sharing it with everyone.
  12. What is this about? You don't like the wording? Comment better on the opinion that both gas and products need to be cooled (which is why I applied the phrase "when there will be a release"). Do you need chlorine? You don't think you need to refrigerate food? Be my guest! Yes, you're right. That's what I'd like to do! Waiting for all the 20 kilos of chlorine brought in by the dupes to dissolve. It will be even more fun to come up with a dosing scheme, so that from a pile of chlorine, weighing 400 kg, to get 1 kg, which is so necessary for the scheme (It is possible to dispense with the dispenser, but again, this is unnecessary).
  13. We will now move again from practice to philosophy. Let's take our minds off of these schemes. Let's present two abstract schemes: 1. Requires diamond, improved wires and ceramics 2. Requires ordinary wires and granite. Both schemes do the same thing. Which one will you choose? Back to the circuits. Do you think saving a few watts is important to the player, with base consumption typically being 3...10...20 kW? In which of the schemes I suggested you can't add chlorine? Chlorine can be delivered in several ways: 1. Run a pipe and break it in the right place (it still needs to be found, put in a pump, etc.) 2. Bring the solid chlorine (it does not dissolve all and not everyone likes lying near the food stone - the game is a lot of perfectionists. Just do not offer to remove it later auto-sweeper). 3. Cool it down and transfer it to the liquid (yup, "even easier") 4. ... Or you can just breathe a dupes, get the same thing, and go assemble another circuit. Your choice? I don't consider anything complicated. I passed this game and I already wrote you how, when and which way I did it. Are you going to tell me again that I don't know how to play this game? Fine, so be it. My readers tell me straight out - it's very complicated, you can simplify the scheme or suggest something simpler. And I listen to them, for writing to myself is not very clever.
  14. We don't know for sure what will be in the final release. Whether only gas cooling will be enough, or whether the food itself will need to be cooled as well. I already gave you this quote: And I have no reason not to trust that opinion. That's why I'm cooling both the food and the gas. However, ANY of my circuits can easily be converted to gas cooling only - JUST remove the metal tile from the bottom and put it on the left (right). The approach itself is much simpler. No need for a vacuum, no need for a airlock, etc. Everything is easy and straightforward. And please leave out the chlorine. Do not fill people's heads with nonsense. There are circuits where you cannot do without it (circuits with temperature difference of hundreds of degrees). But this is not that case. The savings between chlorine and CO2 in this case is minuscule. It is not worth the trouble of pumping CO2 and filling with chlorine. However, if you can not without it, add it to any of my schemes.