minespatch Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 On 6/2/2019 at 6:52 PM, watermelen671 said: Why is the face so different? And as soon as you remove the skirt, it all looks normal. And so low-res...why? 2 hours ago, watermelen671 said: @minespatch could you maybe snag me a screencap of how it looks in-game? Because I'm unsure how it's supposed to sit on Maxwell and it's looking kinda weird... Just now, watermelen671 said: It looks kinda low-res in the tex file and I'm not sure why... @Jason, can you give us a explanation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 So what do we call this unimplemented spider monkey/spiderape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreyaMaluk Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, minespatch said: So what do we call this unimplemented spider monkey/spiderape? I wish Klei had used these instead of the current spider monkeys in Hamlet... current ones are just boring and silly Edited June 20, 2019 by FreyaMaluk 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Just now, FreyaMaluk said: I wish Klei had used these instead of the current spider monkeys in Hamlet... those are just boring and silly I could keep both, think about how regular and warriors are two different types. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desblat Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 24 minutes ago, minespatch said: So what do we call this unimplemented spider monkey/spiderape? is this texture in game files? How it is named? I just hate current spider-harambles, I want this small ape instead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Desblat said: is this texture in game files? How it is named? I thankfully found this through google images but I can't find the other files. I've seen them before but my search engines couldn't find the others through reverse image search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desblat Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, minespatch said: I thankfully found this through google images but I can't find the other files. I've seen them before but my search engines couldn't find the others through reverse image search. There are texturures of small spider ape in game files. Small spider apes mod is coming! I will probably make it so there are a lot of small apes around nests and big haramble goes out only if they get attacked. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreyaMaluk Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Desblat said: There are texturures of small spider ape in game files. Small spider apes mod is coming! I will probably make it so there are a lot of small apes around nests and big haramble goes out only if they get attacked. the design of these is just so much more interesting than the ones we got. I love the detail of a spiderweb in the back of the mouth.. that's so cleaver.... and the faces are so goddamn cute Edited June 20, 2019 by FreyaMaluk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Variant Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 You know you can play as these Spider Monkeys and more in PP. The spider monkeys are old, I doubt it'll show up outside of any mods, but there were sound files just now found for them. I don't have them on hand, currently, but there's sounds for a lot of missing mobs, too. Also, the small Spider Monkey had a crap ton of progress made on it, you can see it's code everywhere in Hamlet, it's also a cause for the mixed up Spider Ape damage from a while ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 2 hours ago, -Variant said: You know you can play as these Spider Monkeys and more in PP. Pp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me real life Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 I'm very glad we didn't get these spider monkeys. They'd be the third mob using the same splumonkey body type that's been around since vanilla. Spider apes, on the other hand, are technically the first mob in DS to use the boarilla body type. It makes them feel like a creature completely unique to Hamlet, rather than yet another monkey. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktor234 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sunset Skye said: I'm very glad we didn't get these spider monkeys. They'd be the third mob using the same splumonkey body type that's been around since vanilla. Spider apes, on the other hand, are technically the first mob in DS to use the boarilla body type. It makes them feel like a creature completely unique to Hamlet, rather than yet another monkey. But on the other hand it could become the fourth mob or 1st mob in Hamlet having a younger form which turns into an adult later on (The other ones are Beefalo, Tallbird and Doydoy). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreyaMaluk Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Sunset Skye said: I'm very glad we didn't get these spider monkeys. They'd be the third mob using the same splumonkey body type that's been around since vanilla. Spider apes, on the other hand, are technically the first mob in DS to use the boarilla body type. It makes them feel like a creature completely unique to Hamlet, rather than yet another monkey. I think this is wrong. Monkeys in sw and in RoG are completely different. Yes. Boarillas are different from the others but their design is not as special as the hidden ones and you can clearly tell they were more like an afterthought. They aren't as detailed and most importantly. Their brains are very weird and unnatural for any mamal hybrid. They have no herd mentality and they feel out of place in Hamlet imo. If you personally like then that's fine but I can see the small ones being much more in tone with the games aslesthetic.... Specially cuz they could climb the trees to hide or many other much interesting options than just sleeping on the floor by the trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuartzBeam Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 2 hours ago, FreyaMaluk said: I think this is wrong. Monkeys in sw and in RoG are completely different. How is this wrong? Prime Apes are literally a reskin of Splumonkeys. Yes, their behaviors differ, but their body types and animations are identical, which was Skye's point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me real life Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 2 hours ago, FreyaMaluk said: I think this is wrong. Monkeys in sw and in RoG are completely different. A significant amount of the Prime Ape textures are recolored from Splumonkey's, and they share literally every animation. If you're talking about behavior... Splumonkeys and Prime Apes both: Spawn in groups from a monkey-themed structure. Steal items laying on the ground. Pick plants and eat them in order to make manure, which they throw at you when provoked to make you lose 10 sanity. Drop bananas and morsels on death (cave bananas and bananas are the same item, the game just swaps out the textures and name depending on the world) Will fight other mobs, but will run from the player. Are affected by the nightmare cycle (seriously, go try it in-game. you can build prime ape huts down there now.) The only thing really setting them apart is which world they spawn in, and the fact that you can befriend prime apes. As it turns out, though, the latter must have been originally planned for Splumonkeys. Neither Prime Apes nor the unused Spider Monkeys have their own animations, they all reuse the Splumonkey's, which includes the befriending and refusal animations. I'm not sure how to make Spriter animations into gifs, but this is the data mining thread, so uh, @watermelen671? 2 hours ago, FreyaMaluk said: Yes. Boarillas are different from the others but their design is not as special as the hidden ones and you can clearly tell they were more like an afterthought. They aren't as detailed and most importantly. Their brains are very weird and unnatural for any mamal hybrid. You're also allowed to like the unused Spider Monkeys, but.. in no way are they more unique than the Boarilla-like ones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreyaMaluk Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Sunset Skye said: I personally don't like boarilla cuz they don't feel so unique just a lesser version of the boarilla. Don't even have the rolling attacks To me the other ones look much better and the design looks way more polished with all the details including the spiderweb in the back of the mouth. Dunno I guess I feel like they fit more Hamlet specially cuz they could go up to actually sleep in the cacoons and could be more like monkeys and not like gorilas that are weirdly called monkeys. Imo they don't make sense designweise nor their brain in Hamlet. That's my opinion tho. Everyone is allowed to have one. Edited June 20, 2019 by FreyaMaluk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermelen671 Posted June 20, 2019 Author Share Posted June 20, 2019 4 hours ago, Sunset Skye said: I'm not sure how to make Spriter animations into gifs, but this is the data mining thread, so uh, @watermelen671? Hm? Oh, yeah I can post all the monkey stuff! 3 hours ago, FreyaMaluk said: [snip] Please quickly edit your post so you're not directly quoting EVERYTHING that Skye posted...it's just bloat. But from what I briefly gleaned from the discussion at hand, it is true that all three flavors of monkey are just that, flavors. Splumonkey is the base, with the Prime Apes being the first reskin, and the scrapped Spidermonkey being the second reskin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desblat Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 18 hours ago, Sunset Skye said: snip Spider ape is simply too big. Webbed tree nests look like a joke. All the design of it seems like way too joke/pun even for DS. I mean there is DragonFly, that has small insect wings, but it somehow flies using them. While gorilla has 4 additional spider legs, that it doesn't need, or does? Well we can say it makes web using them. But why would gorilla need web? Small spiders need web to gain advantage over creatures that are bigger than them, also spiders use numbers to fight things. But insanely big gorilla can PUNCH anything by itself, it doesn't need anything else. If it was small sized monkey that also makes web that would make more sense. Also it might use trees to make web traps. It makes sense for spider to be small. But for now we have a mob that can PUNCH really hard that's it. It would be cool if gorilla defended lesser monkeys being passive if they are not in danger. Like one nest, 5 small monkeys living in it, and one big one that sticks around. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osbalop Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 The little baby monkeys could be befriended by Webber and Wilbur to make them more unique. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexias Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 I prefer the current spidermonkey, they’re new for DS players, the scrapped one is just reskin of cave monkeys. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 @watermelen671 weird request but can I get transparents of Wormwood eating and a back view of Wormwood? I lost my paper ref of his backside. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermelen671 Posted June 21, 2019 Author Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 minute ago, minespatch said: @watermelen671 weird request but can I get transparents of Wormwood eating and a back view of Wormwood? I lost my paper ref of his backside. Yeah sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Just now, watermelen671 said: Yeah sure. By the way, I find it interesting that Wormwood's butt is a spiral. It would explain how Wormwood can grow a tail. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermelen671 Posted June 22, 2019 Author Share Posted June 22, 2019 Here you are minispatch! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Oh cute, even his cheeks are swirly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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