Cheerio 2687 Report post Posted August 28, 2018 Fixed gas reservoir pivot. Fixed a crash that could occur when loading a save file containing liquid cooled fans. View full update 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuantumPion 101 Report post Posted August 29, 2018 Any idea why my refinery contains 10t of 930 °F pH2O? Emptying it/deconstructing it causes a thermonuclear catsplosion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheScaryOne 89 Report post Posted August 29, 2018 It has an output blocked message, my guess is you've been constantly heating that same 10t of PH20 for a while now. Phase states won't occur in the machine. Deconstructing turns it into 10t of steam? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuantumPion 101 Report post Posted August 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, TheScaryOne said: It has an output blocked message, my guess is you've been constantly heating that same 10t of PH20 for a while now. Phase states won't occur in the machine. Deconstructing turns it into 10t of steam? Hmm I guess that explains what happened to my pH20 supply. The output blocked message was caused by the output pipe breaking shortly before this cycle, but it was working fine for 50+ cycles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheScaryOne 89 Report post Posted August 29, 2018 You can try setting up a debottler somewhere and see if the dupes can pick liquid bottles from the machine (needs to be higher priority than the refinery, IIRC) to dump somewhere else for heat? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuantumPion 101 Report post Posted August 29, 2018 23 minutes ago, TheScaryOne said: You can try setting up a debottler somewhere and see if the dupes can pick liquid bottles from the machine (needs to be higher priority than the refinery, IIRC) to dump somewhere else for heat? The instant a dupe removes the bottle, it explodes into steam and fills up my whole base! I could try enclosing it and corner deconstructing it maybe... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheScaryOne 89 Report post Posted August 29, 2018 You can try building a hydrogen wheeze chamber around it to cool the contents, as long as it's not made out of abyssalite. You could try harnessing the energy from it to power a steam generator for a little while until it cools down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rogue Witch 67 Report post Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, QuantumPion said: Any idea why my refinery contains 10t of 930 °F pH2O? Emptying it/deconstructing it causes a thermonuclear catsplosion. I had the same problem in the beginning. But I guess I didnt understand the working of the Refinery back then. I am assuming you have the same issue. The Refinery heats up the coolant and this amount of heating (change in temp of coolant) varies on which metal you are refining. As I remember, iron takes a lot, steel yet more. So if after a coolant is used, and its output temp is above the boiling point of the coolant, phase change happens while in pipes or in refinery internal storage and this creates the "Catsplosion" you see. Its Super-heated Steam and tonnes of it. So, use a cooler coolant that doesnt boil after heating. BTW, I know that emptying or deconstructing the Refinery will not help. There are 2 solutions to save your game. Either leave that Refinery as a Memorial and make a new one. Or, go to Debug mode, select 'Destroy' and click on Refinery. This simultaneously deletes the Refinery and its contents into Oblivion. Enjoy ! Edited August 29, 2018 by Rogue Witch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndreyKl 220 Report post Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Rogue Witch said: BTW, I know that emptying or deconstructing the Refinery will not help. There are 2 solutions to save your game. Either leave that Refinery as a Memorial and make a new one. Or, go to Debug mode, select 'Destroy' and click on Refinery. This simultaneously deletes the Refinery and its contents into Oblivion. Enjoy ! Surround with abysalite tiles, corner deconstruct refinery, then 'corner-delete' steam (when there is only one tile left and you build in it, steam will be deleted). Or set up a cooling inside blocked space to get your water back. Edited August 29, 2018 by AndreyKl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sasza22 4037 Report post Posted August 29, 2018 I`d seal it with insulated tiles from 3 sides and break the wall outside the base. Then set up 3 steam turbines outside the base and lead the steam in there. Also make a room above the turbines where the steam can cool down. It should probably get rid of the heat from your base. It`s probably not worth the effort just to get the turbines spinning for a few seconds but i`d personally do that just for fun. Especially in a base like that where i can set it up without rearranging half of the base. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qarnage 12 Report post Posted August 29, 2018 You might have a way to make a Steam Generator work for a while here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkunkMaster 286 Report post Posted August 29, 2018 seems a bug has wandered in with this patch. My bedrooms at least only show up as barracks. even with just a single bed it's still a barracks. 4 tiles high and plastered with decor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old_fantom 42 Report post Posted August 29, 2018 People use liquid cooled fans? I have not ever seen anyone in the forums who has said they are worth anything. I tried them before they changed the temp range on bristle berries. Did not have success. That has been a few releases and I have never thought of building them since. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuantumPion 101 Report post Posted August 29, 2018 12 hours ago, Rogue Witch said: I had the same problem in the beginning. But I guess I didnt understand the working of the Refinery back then. I am assuming you have the same issue. The Refinery heats up the coolant and this amount of heating (change in temp of coolant) varies on which metal you are refining. As I remember, iron takes a lot, steel yet more. So if after a coolant is used, and its output temp is above the boiling point of the coolant, phase change happens while in pipes or in refinery internal storage and this creates the "Catsplosion" you see. I think you are not understanding the issue. If you look at the first screenshot, the refinery contains a normal charge of 798 kg of ph20 at 178 °F, but also contains in a separate line, 9.8 TONS of ph20 at a ridiculous 934 °F. It's as if the refinery was duplicating & storing all of the liquid AND heat output over the course of dozens of cycles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kabrute 1070 Report post Posted August 29, 2018 But have you fixed sieve pivot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rogue Witch 67 Report post Posted August 29, 2018 8 minutes ago, Kabrute said: But have you fixed sieve pivot? I so wish and its about time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheScaryOne 89 Report post Posted August 29, 2018 6 hours ago, SkunkMaster said: seems a bug has wandered in with this patch. My bedrooms at least only show up as barracks. even with just a single bed it's still a barracks. 4 tiles high and plastered with decor. AFAIK, bedrooms must have only one bed per room. Works in my game. Terrible morale bonus for so much work, though. I always rush the Great Hall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
