Developer zarklord_klei Posted June 19, 2018 Developer Share Posted June 19, 2018 I found a updated route that doesn't depend on manipulating the contents of the safes. see here: Old Route: Spoiler Hello Everyone This is a 100% consistent 6 dish solo wes rng proof run. this run has a setup requirements before you can do it. The only thing holding back 6 dish rng proof runs was the variability of the safe contents, well you can actually manipulate the contents of the safe you open to reliably force the contents to be what you need. Here's how: Safe Content Manipulation: Everyday the starting safe content seed is reset(currently we know it resets at 4:00pm est, it is unknown if it resets more than once a day), so you have to redetermine the seed every day that you want to do this strat. The seed is per host player and cannot reliably shared :(. The quickest route to determine your seed is this: Round 1: Stone Soup Buy Salt Rack Open 1st safe (the "1st" safe can be whichever safe you want, though I pick the one right next to the entrance near the grindstone since its the closest.) If you got the contents you desired for your route congrats you have now found your seed(more on how you use this later). if you didn't get the contents you desired then me must shift the contents of the safe around so that the "1st" safe has your correct contents, to do this you need to grind something on the meal-stone, generally you would only have access to wheat in the beginning so we will take two wheat and grind that and then open the chest, so that route looks something like this: Round 1: Stone Soup Buy Blue(wheat) Seeds Buy Salt Rack Grind 2 wheat into 1 Flour Open 1st safe Whether or not you got your contents you have now determined your seed. If you got the contents you need to grind 1 flour before opening the safe, if you didn't get the contents you grind a second flour before opening the chest. Okay so you know your seed know you can carry on to the run. PSA: it's unknown if more stuff than grinding affects the safe contents shifting around so don't complain that this doesn't work unless you do exactly the same thing twice and get different safe contents; I have done the following route 12~ times and have reliably predicted the safe contents every time. The Route: You MUST play wes for this route to work. Everything after round 1 MUST be plated Salting isn't required and isn't needed. Recipe item counts are NOT A RECOMENDATION they are a requirement. Plant All Seeds on the round you buy them. You MUST know the safe contents seed for getting the large cookpot on the first safe. If you know the which safe contains the Large Oven Dish you dont need to open the 3rd safe, This isn't a run breaker, but you will be more effecient if you do know(its basicaly the same way you determine the safe contents of the initial safe). Round 1: Buy Cookpot Cook Stone Soup (Cookpot) (1 Foliage 1 Rock 1 Berry) Round 2: Buy Salt Rack Buy Grill Buy 2 Blue(Wheat) Seeds NOTE: You need to get the salt rack up immediately so that you can open the first safe to plate the round 2 dish. You have plenty of time to get all the wood you need(about 22 extra wood) in this time. If You Get Vegetables: Gather 3 Potatoes and 2 Rot From Potato Farm Gather 1 Mushroom Cook Roasted Veggies (Grill) (2 Potatoes 1 Mushroom) If You Get Bread: Gather 1 Potatoes and 2 Rot From Potato Farm Cook Jelly Sandwich (Grill) (2 Berries 1 Flour) Round 3: Buy Sugar Forest Key. When your grinding the spice and the rest of the wheat make sure to grab the salt from the salt trap and grind that to If you get Fish then deliver the salt immediatly, otherwise save it for the start of round 4 and get two keys at the same time. If You Get Meat: Gather 9 Spice Plants Buy a Pigeon I REPEAT BUY A Pigeon, DO NOT BUY A TRAP. Cook Curry (Large Cookpot) (1 Meat Scraps 2 Spice 1 Potato) If You Get Fish: Gather 6 Spice Plants Buy a Fish Cook Poached Fish (Large Cookpot) (1 Salmon 1 Foliage 1 Spice 1 Potato) Round 4: If you got the large casserole dish from the second safe you dont need to open the third one. you also need the large casserole dish right this second so go open the safes that need opening. Buy Oven Buy 1 Pointy(Onion) Seed Buy Milk Cook Cheesecake (Large Oven) (2 Milk 1 Flour 1 Berry) Round 5: DON'T BUY MORE MILK FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. Cook Onion Soup (Large Cookpot) (1 Flour 1 Milk 1 2 Onions) Round 6: If you dont have a silver plate buy one from mumsy with the extra Sapphire Medallion you have. If You Get Bread: Buy Large Grill Buy Slaughtering Tool Cook Shooter Sandwich (Large Grill) (2 B.Meat 1 Flour 1 Spice) If You Get Meat: Buy Slaughtering Tool Cook Meat Wellington (Large Oven) (2 B.Meat 1 Flour 1 Spice) If You Get Fish: Buy Milk Cook Creamy Fish (Large Oven) (1 Salmon 2 Milk 1 Spice) Video: Spoiler Thanks for reading and have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnWatson Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 The safe manipulation is a really great find, the safe contents is probably the most annoying rng factor on solo 6 dish. Surprised to learn that it can actually be made predictable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co.op Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Some next level right here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulk Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 So for example if on RUN 1 i open first safe and get sap thing i restart RUN 2 i grind 1 flour open the same safe and i get casserole so i go to RUN 3 to be the actual run so i grin 2 flour and get large pot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer zarklord_klei Posted June 19, 2018 Author Developer Share Posted June 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Soulk said: So for example if on RUN 1 i open first safe and get sap thing i restart RUN 2 i grind 1 flour open the same safe and i get casserole so i go to RUN 3 to be the actual run so i grin 2 flour and get large pot? yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulk Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 If so that mean i can farm wins always grinding 2 flour before opening 1st safe all the day? Just now, Zarklord said: yes. ok thank you very much gonna try it, anyways THANKS in the name of the gorge community for this finding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer zarklord_klei Posted June 19, 2018 Author Developer Share Posted June 19, 2018 Just now, Soulk said: If so that mean i can farm wins always grinding 2 flour before opening 1st safe all the day? yeah(if the cookpot is on the 2 extra grind.) once you know the seed you can repeat this all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulk Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 OMG works :DDDDDD lets get exp booster, i also found that i grind 2 spice and i know where the casserole is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsPizzaTime Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Anyone have any input as to how long an average 6 dish run lasts? And how much total xp do you get on average (or is it consistent?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulk Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Just now, ItsPizzaTime said: Anyone have any input as to how long an average 6 dish run lasts? And how much total xp do you get on average (or is it consistent?) avg 18 min on my runs, also yes around the same exp each time, let me do another run and tell you the amount Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer zarklord_klei Posted June 19, 2018 Author Developer Share Posted June 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, Soulk said: OMG works :DDDDDD lets get exp booster, i also found that i grind 2 spice and i know where the casserole is may i ask how man grinds it took to force large cookpot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulk Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, Zarklord said: may i ask how man grinds it took to force large cookpot? for me it was 2 flour and 1 salt i dont know if grinding salt counts but with those 3 grind i get the large pot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer zarklord_klei Posted June 19, 2018 Author Developer Share Posted June 19, 2018 Just now, Soulk said: for me it was 2 flour and 1 salt i dont know if grinding salt counts but with those 3 grind i get the large pot thanks. sadly that means the grinds are a per host player thing(for me is was 1 salt 1 flour) so everyone must discover it for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulk Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Just now, Zarklord said: thanks. sadly that means the grinds are a per host player thing(for me is was 1 salt 1 flour) so everyone must discover it for themselves. it seems to be per host yeah So its around 11k exp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extant Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 For too long have we, the people, been subjected to the horror and torment that is RNG. Inflicted upon us by the one known as RNGesus. It does not care how much skill we have. It laughs at both the poor and the rich caring not a bit how good our PC spec is. Knowledge and reflexes are but mere toys at its disposal. But for those who make their living off of manipulation, should be wary that they, themselves, be manipulated in return. What is thy name, RNGesus asks? Thy name is karma! And also Zarklord in this scenario. Good job and thanks for your efforts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer zarklord_klei Posted June 19, 2018 Author Developer Share Posted June 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Extant said: For too long have we, the people, been subjected to the horror and torment that is RNG. Inflicted upon us by the one known as RNGesus. It does not care how much skill we have. It laughs at both the poor and the rich caring not a bit how good our PC spec is. Knowledge and reflexes are but mere toys at its disposal. But for those who make their living off of manipulation, should be wary that they, themselves, be manipulated in return. What is thy name, RNGesus asks? Thy name is karma! And also Zarklord in this scenario. Good job and thanks for your efforts! no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulk Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Hey did someone else tested this out, i mean i host 1 server and get my seed, even if i get another server with me as a host it seems to change Nvm i figured it out it was my mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer zarklord_klei Posted June 19, 2018 Author Developer Share Posted June 19, 2018 Just now, Soulk said: Hey did someone else tested this out, i mean i host 1 server and get my seed, even if i get another server with me as a host it seems to change I don't know when seed resets each day, is this new seed consistent? if not maybe record a video or outline the exact steps you did on both runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer zarklord_klei Posted June 19, 2018 Author Developer Share Posted June 19, 2018 so after talking with Soulk on discord its been determined that the seed resets at 4pm est it is unknown whether or not it resets more than once a day and if so when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boriya Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Hm. 2 times grinding nothing at all, get me to different chest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreyaMaluk Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Boriya said: Hm. 2 times grinding nothing at all, get me to different chest yeap.. I think they change the safe contents every time.. and tbh... you dont even need wes to win... I got it with WX cuz most of the time u are running around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boriya Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 I did not get it :/ grinder none - get tree taping kit grinder 1 flour - get tree taping kit grinder 2 flour - get tree taping kit lol. what did you do to my? get it back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer zarklord_klei Posted June 20, 2018 Author Developer Share Posted June 20, 2018 32 minutes ago, Boriya said: I did not get it :/ grinder none - get tree taping kit grinder 1 flour - get tree taping kit grinder 2 flour - get tree taping kit lol. what did you do to my? get it back its always possible they patched this out, but did you do the exact same route all 3 times? if not what was different between each route? optionaly if you can post a video showing it off. also what time were you doing this route? you might have doing those runs between two differents seeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer zarklord_klei Posted June 20, 2018 Author Developer Share Posted June 20, 2018 okay so they did patch the safe content manipulation, I'm looking at options to deterministicly find the safe contents but don't hold out much hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extant Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 RNGesus rises again! I tried testing this out too just a moment ago and I couldn't replicate it anymore either. I guess co.op's and my guide will have to do for now until something new arises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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