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@minespatch the Temp family just keeps getting bigger, now we got Temp Cassette:

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What appears to be more mouth sprites in the head_swap

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Yup, mouth flapping.

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Petitaphs, I CALLED IT!!

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Hand wipe

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High Five

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Mourning

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Fist bump

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Wet feet

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R-E-S-P-E-C-T!

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Finger Guns

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Watercooler

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Research complete(?)

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Sore Back

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Wait, did dupes never blink before this?!

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2 hours ago, watermelen671 said:

Pet epitaphs. 

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Pet gravestones

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Looks like drecko, slickster, hatch, shinebug and... egg? Aside from pacu, is there's something we're missing that could be the last one?

Edit: Doesn't look like a puft either.

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9 hours ago, DragonMage156 said:

Looks like drecko, slickster, hatch, shinebug and... egg? Aside from pacu, is there's something we're missing that could be the last one?

Edit: Doesn't look like a puft either.

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Hm...

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Rats with missing apendages, unusual vocalizations, and benign growths. They squeak and love sunflower seeds...

OH MY GOD!! @minespatch...what do you think the critter they're referring to is? :wilson_dorky:

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5 hours ago, watermelen671 said:
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Hm...

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Rats with missing apendages, unusual vocalizations, and benign growths. They squeak and love sunflower seeds...

OH MY GOD!! @minespatch...what do you think the critter they're referring to is? :wilson_dorky:

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I think they're referring to the volgus

 

 

 

 

 

 

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So, just going to throw in my thoughts regarding the setting, mainly;
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While there has been some discussion of an asteroid or comet or an explosive accident being the cause of such a fracturing and expulsion of the earth's crust and mantle, this is not consistent with the damage seen - due to the surface area and friction a sufficiently large asteroid would have to be to cause such large quantities of ejected material, it would need to be somewhere on the order of at minimum 1/100th earth's mass up to 1/20th earth's mass - with which we would see the entire surface of the planet liquefied by the impact, not merely have the ejected mass.  Also, ejected mass would likely be smaller particles, no larger than a few meters in diameter, not the dozens or hundreds or more kilometers across chunks of crust we can see in this image. 

Instead, whatever would cause such an event would need to be something which caused a two-part pressure wave within the mantle, directed upwards.  This would either be a set of massive shaped charges unlike anything made before, somehow placed deep within the mantle, or a relativistic kinetic projectile of a few thousand tons impacting at an off angle, and fracturing after penetrating the crust.  A projectile of 1,000,000kg in mass at 0.5c would be approximately the low end to pull off this scale of destruction, well within the capability of a far distant K2 civilization accelerating a rod of a high structural strength metal with a Nicoll-Dyson beam or even a K1 using a multi-stage laser sail.  (recommended viewing:

 

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Given the unlikelihood we would suddenly decide to destabilize the planet and face mass extinction to wipe out North America, my money is on an extraterrestrial civilization either seeing us as a threat / potential threat and deciding to deal with it in an exact fashion.  That the strike was off center suggests either extreme distances and somewhat off center,  it was an RKP not aimed at us but we just happened to be in the way by accident, or we managed to divert it off course from striking the core of the planet and turning the whole of the crust to a superheated puddle, perhaps by shooting it with a literal case of "all the nukes".   Though likely upon detection, given it's speed, we would only detect it light-minutes or light-hours out, and it's sheer speed, it's unlikely that ICBMs would have a high hit ratio on it, though perhaps a coordinated atmospheric deployment could be utilized to some effect with airbursts.

Regardless of the source, or why the earth managed to not be turned into nothing but a lava land and we have large chunks of crust now acting as additional moons to the earth, that does appear to be the gist of things.  My guess, is that we are an operating experimental branch from underground tests by Gravitas - perhaps in their final moments they decided to set the colonization system into motion, hoping that something might be left of humanity after the end, even if it was merely the duplicants on some small chunk of what was formerly the earth.  Though it appears earth proper has fared... relatively well, still maintaining an atmosphere and given the somewhat greenish hue to the landmasses, likely some vegitation, so some extent of a biosphere is probably still intact.  Civilization may have gone underground, or we could be seeing a post-human age on earth.  Regardless, that the wound to the planet has crusted over, but the planet itself has not yet brought itself back into a spherical shape, nor see the doming of volcanic activity to slowly cause the latter, we're probably looking at an earth anywhere from around a thousand to a couple hundred thousand years after such an impact or explosion.   

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I hope the critter gravestones aren't indicative of an impending Pet Upgrade.  Not that I'm opposed to such a mechanic, just that I've personally had my fill of critter-related content for the time being and would rather the developers flesh out some other areas of the game.

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2 hours ago, goboking said:

.. flesh out some other areas of the game.

Dupes should burn! We need more dangerous stuff, for my taste.
Explosions, when flammable liquid/gas is compressed to much.
Firewaves rolling through the base, could turn stuff into ref carbon.
Dupe aggro would be nice, when they don't like the other dupe.
Mobbing, sabotage, torture would be fun too.

Something that could cause problems and i am not talking about meteors hammering through the roof.
Or my old idea of + chlorine impact would make even more sense now, to get the stress a bit bumped up.

 

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20 hours ago, watermelen671 said:

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Ah mu bad. I still don't understand what the hatch's one looks like an egg...

1 hour ago, Oozinator said:

Dupe aggro would be nice, when they don't like the other dupe.

Something that could cause problems and i am not talking about meteors hammering through the roof.

So drama. Got it. Make sure the devs get that message.

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9 hours ago, Evaris said:

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A big reactor meltdown that occurs at the bottom of a facility that goes underground? Seems like enough to blow a chunk outta the Earth.

3 hours ago, Oozinator said:

Dupe aggro would be nice, when they don't like the other dupe.

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3 hours ago, Oozinator said:

Mobbing, sabotage, torture would be fun too.

What the heck? Doesn't that COMPLETELY go against the core concept of the game? Seriously dude, this isn't Hatred. And I don't think Klei would actually condone such barbaric actions in a colony sim game. In Griftlands? Maybe, but it's still a VERY fine line to walk, something that has to be planned out from the beginning, and with great care put into depicting it.

First of all it'd be very out of place, second of all there has been no mention of incorporating such things into the game thus far, and throwing it in last minute will without a doubt spark controversy and outrage.

Lastly it's just too dark. The devs removed cannibalism from Don't Starve because they thought it was too dark, and that was a dark game. ONI is nothing like Don't Starve in terms of theme, and incorporating such a thing would be in poor taste.

1 hour ago, Oozinator said:

I obey sir and start to crosspost important game relevant stuff, till they stop me!

Please keep this on topic, I'd rather this not be locked due to irrelevant, nonsensical latest?cb=20180221185858posting.

In other news! (I know, sudden mood whiplash is sudden)

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Looks like we'll actually have another environmental danger that dupes'll have to contend with! Maybe...possibly...I dunno. It wasn't there in the previous upgrades, so I suppose it could mean something...then again it could mean nothing. I dunno.

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11 hours ago, watermelen671 said:

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A big reactor meltdown that occurs at the bottom of a facility that goes underground? Seems like enough to blow a chunk outta the Earth.

 

Reactor meltdowns do not work that way.  

First of all, a meltdown does not produce an explosion - it is when the thermal and radioactive output of a nuclear reactor exceed the control rods, causing a runaway chain reaction, however without a critical mass like you have in a nuclear bomb, a reactor just, as it sounds, melts itself and the surrounding material into a radioactive slush.  Upon contact with oxygen, most nuclear-fuel-capable materials will then also catch fire more or less immediately, forming into oxide particulates which then get in the air, as was seen at Chernobyl before they sank the whole thing in cement, covering huge swaths of land with radioactive material.  

The second problem is in terms of sheer scale of an explosion you would need.  Both to fracture the earth's crust to such an extent (approximating a lowest end with ten times the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs at 4x10^24 joules of force, which is the highest energy impact we have record of which did not shatter the earth's crust)  and then ejecting that material into orbit - given the size of the materials we see,  a low end at 1% Earth's mass could be used.  This is relatively close to the Earth's moon, as an example, and what we will use for calculations for visual effect.  

Even with ignoring air friction, earth's escape velocity is 11.2m/s.  The moon weighs ~6.0456×10^24kg.  Meaning to get that mass to orbit we need ~3.76x10^26 joules of force, at minimum.  

An explosive force of 3.8x10^26 joules is then a fair estimate.  (380,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000j)  Or about 100 billion megatons.

The largest bomb ever developed by humanity, the Tsar Bomba, had an explosive force of only 50 megatons - 210 petajoules, or 210,000,000,000,000,000j.  Even if you exploded every nuclear bomb on the planet today at a single point, approximated at 10,000 megatons... well, you're only at 1/10,000,000th the explosive force you would need.    

So no, you're not doing that with any nuclear reactor, especially a fission reactor, (the only kind which can melt down) which are manifold less energetic than fusion reactions like an H-bomb.  

Even if we went to antimatter, it would require 20,000,000 kg -twenty thousand tons - to produce such an explosion.  This is ignoring the implausibility of containing that amount of antimatter, the implausibility of using antimatter as a power source on a planetary body, or the sheer cost of producing antimatter in terrestrial particle accelerators at over $65,000,000,000,000 per gram.  So assuming that Gravitas is any sort of near-future megacorp/hypercorp (as the setting suggests)  antimatter isn't on the table.  

Keep in mind, the entire energy use of all of humanity on planet earth, per year, is only 5x10^20j, and this requires more than a million times that in less than a second to produce the observed planetary effect.

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