Tumalu Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 All 4 gems are in both the offerings on the bottom left (First image) and the cave at the top left (second image). In both cases the gems are listed with symbols in an order consistent with their 4 colors. There is one symbol for each color of gem. Since we have both sets to go off, we can fact check- and it's consistent with the ordering. The double flowers on the bottom left tell you what order the symbols go in compared to the items, so that's another fact-checking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadiantRoma Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 9 minutes ago, Tumalu said: And the top one isn't "food", it's berries. Shown here, it might mean nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumalu Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 There are berries next to the carrots on the first image. And on both cases in the second one, it's listed to refer to Berries, and then to a Berry Bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HINK Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I think i got it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumalu Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 You missed bees and birds in the top and didn't label butterfly, but I think you're 100% correct at this point other than maybe the "use", which we've seen Maxwell translate as incantation? Use seems to work too, though. Thank you for the easy-to-see image. Someone should apply everything we've learned to the 4 ancient murals. We translated it, let's see how much of the murals we can understand. I'm getting IRL busier soon, is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadiantRoma Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, HINK said: I think i got it that seems plausible. I think the one you deemed "have / has" can also be "give"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumalu Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 The use of it next to carrots/berries aboveground at the top implies otherwise, Cherryzion. I guess they're trading food and lower gems to the monster for green/orange ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HINK Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadiantRoma Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Tumalu said: The use of it next to carrots/berries aboveground at the top implies otherwise, Cherryzion. I guess they're trading food and lower gems to the monster for green/orange ones. I'm saying it is most likely "have" and "give", it can mean both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Curator Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Cherryzion said: I'm saying it is most likely "have" and "give", it can mean both Do many languages use a denotation that means two polar opposite things at once. Because that sounds like it would cause problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadiantRoma Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 What do we make of the "monsters"? The big centipedes, what could they be? Another sentient species that traded with the Thulians? They hunted the rabbits as well? Or worked alongside with the rabbits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Curator Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Cherryzion said: What do we make of the "monsters"? The big centipedes, what could they be? Another sentient species that traded with the Thulians? They hunted the rabbits as well? Or worked alongside with the rabbits? HINK deciphered it well enough, it looks more or less like the ancients were offering to the creatures. Probably as a means to appease them to avoid destruction. Which comes back to. Antlion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadiantRoma Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, The Curator said: HINK deciphered it well enough, it looks more or less like the ancients were offering to the creatures. Probably as a means to appease them to avoid destruction. Which comes back to. Antlion. I agree with you there, but in the bottom right = "Monsters have rabbits"?? I was trying to figure out what that symbol would mean in that situation. Antlion is probably part of a species (maybe the last of its kind) and the "monsters" are it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiddoBams Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 ALRIGHTY I have attempted to solve my own puzzle. And so far the results have been less then satisfactory. And nothing happens. I've tried switching the cane for wood, living logs, twigs, other staves. Also tried different combinations switching the rabbit with a bunny puff, and nightmare fuel for dark petals. Either I'm doing something wrong, or we're missing another step. Personally I feel that the nightmare fuel and walking cane are up for debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Curator Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Ashkain said: ALRIGHTY I have attempted to solve my own puzzle. And so far the results have been less then satisfactory. And nothing happens. I've tried switching the cane for wood, living logs, twigs, other staves. Also tried different combinations switching the rabbit with a bunny puff, and nightmare fuel for dark petals. Either I'm doing something wrong, or we're missing another step. Personally I feel that the nightmare fuel and walking cane are up for debate. As far as anyone can tell, it is just a matter of properly decoding the symbols. There are few other effective supplements for insanity. Have the cane symbol as well, it seems like it consistently is only matched with a one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MULK Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Maybe walking cane symbol is ancient key? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentdarkness1 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I am unsure what the lightning looking symbol is supposed to be. One person said corruption. So nightmare fuel. I tried nightmare fuel x the notches on the slot. Chest went P'TOOEY. So I think the Nightmare Fuel one may need re-evaluating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Curator Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, MULK said: Maybe walking cane symbol is ancient key? That would suck considering the Guardian has ten thousand health in Together. Unless you can use console commands to solve the puzzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh Posted April 11, 2017 Author Share Posted April 11, 2017 9 minutes ago, The Curator said: HINK deciphered it well enough, it looks more or less like the ancients were offering to the creatures. Probably as a means to appease them to avoid destruction. Which comes back to. Antlion. Maxwell describes the desert stone as “An impure orange gem.”, so the idea that they were the source of the green and orange gems makes sense. Especially considering the Antlion's laziness and constructive/destructive ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiddoBams Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 pls go away guys 4 minutes ago, MULK said: Maybe walking cane symbol is ancient key? Didn't like that either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Curator Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Tosh said: Maxwell describes the desert stone as “An impure orange gem.”, so the idea that they were the source of the green and orange gems makes sense. Especially considering the Antlion's laziness and constructive/destructive ability. It's anatomy also has a large resemblance to the monsters. 6 minutes ago, Silentdarkness1 said: I am unsure what the lightning looking symbol is supposed to be. One person said corruption. So nightmare fuel. I tried nightmare fuel x the notches on the slot. Chest went P'TOOEY. So I think the Nightmare Fuel one may need re-evaluating. Putting in just nightmare fuel likely would not trigger it. Probably only is appeased if it gets everything. Maybe. @Ashkain Could try bunny puffs in place of the rabbit, thulecite shards or walls in place of regular thulecite. Also not sure about the purple gems, never heard of that symbol being deciphered. Purple gem may be confused with the yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh Posted April 11, 2017 Author Share Posted April 11, 2017 Wait... what if the people arguing that 'Staffy' turned into the ancient guardian were right? What mob does this the most like? A rook... Not to mention it only seems to go up to one and is pictured next to that staff guy. Try substituting the cane for the guardian horn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiddoBams Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, The Curator said: @Ashkain Could try bunny puffs in place of the rabbit, thulecite shards or walls in place of regular thulecite. Also not sure about the purple gems, never heard of that symbol being deciphered. Just tried both, neither worked in a number of combinations. Also you can see purple gems on the left part of the mural. 3 minutes ago, Tosh said: Wait... what if the people arguing that 'Staffy' turned into the ancient guardian were right? What mob does this the most like? A rook... Not to mention it only seems to go up to one and is pictured next to that staff guy. Try substituting the cane for the guardian horn. Again, no dice sadly. I tried it with bunny puffs, fragments... Still nothing. C'mon Klei, throw us a bone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadiantRoma Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I'm kinda starting to think this isn't part of the puzzle at all... It might just be another thing we need to input into the chest and it doesn't have to do with the second panel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Curator Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Cherryzion said: I'm kinda starting to think this isn't part of the puzzle at all... It might just be another thing we need to input into the chest and it doesn't have to do with the second panel... It would be a fantastic coincidence considering how well it has all fit together. Something to keep in mind though is that even getting one of the items wrong in any way probably causes the chest to eject it, so there's no way to confirm this works until it finally does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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