Starvation Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) Here, look at these:http://toucharcade.com/2012/12/03/battle-dungeon-pulled-due-to-piracy/http://www.theverge.com/2012/12/4/3727240/battle-dungeon-ios-game-pulled-piracyMessed up isn't it?Because at the end of the day, if we don't make money, we can't continue to make games. Edited January 4, 2013 by Starvation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snob Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Yeh, that can happen to multiplayer games, running servers costs money. "Don't Starve" is single player, so I'm not so worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
501105 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Sigh, sad news indeed, you cant help but feel sorry for the developers. It also reminds me that you tend to take the costs of supporting/maintaining multiplayer for granted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarovSoap Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Something like that is NOT ok. I'm sure we've all had our fair share of piracy from big companies who overprice things anyway (probably to outweigh the loss from piracy) but something like that is uncalled for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9600bauds Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I don't see how this is related to the Don't Starve Beta though, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snob Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I don't see how this is related to the Don't Starve Beta though, sorry.Pirating games --> No money for the devsNo money for dev = no more games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirmentlegen Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 well idc about pirating huge games with millions in it but smaller indie games i will buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerTheDragon Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I only pirate games that I 100% plan to buy in the future , or i've lost in the past. I still think piracy isn't that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDOgre Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) "All the code needed to actually play the game is hosted online, and we can tell the illegitimate copies from the paid copies because we've just told you that we know most of the signups are for illegitimates, but we'd rather take the game down entirely than block those accounts we know are running illegitimate copies of the game." ...is what http://www.theverge.com/2012/12/4/3727240/battle-dungeon-ios-game-pulled-piracy boils down to.Yeesh.Since they obviously know which ones aren't paid copies, they should just block them (a trivial matter) and get on with serving their actual customers (ie, the ones who paid for the game) because anyone who didn't pay doesn't matter. Edited January 4, 2013 by JDOgre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexy Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Piracy is the last thing that stays between players and companies, in a good way, i think they spare me a lot of money giving the "possibility" to "try" a game before buying it, and not ending to buy bad games with good marketing that I played 10 min. before deleted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_J Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Sounds more like the devs are taking the money and not providing the service they promised. Piracy is just an excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toaster Fu Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Sounds more like the devs are taking the money and not providing the service they promised. Piracy is just an excuse.It said in the first article that the Devs were offering refunds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_J Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) A link to the support page on the forums [edit]on page 7 of the game's thread and not even linked to in the OP[/edit] hardly counts. Everyone pays for those games electronically. It's not difficult to refund the charges.I don't play iPad games and I'm not really familiar with how users go about finding them, but honestly how many people log onto the touch arcade forums looking for refunds for a game by Hunted Cow Studios? Edited January 4, 2013 by K_J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScienceMachine Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Pirates occur because of the "bad" service. And the fact that these things costs a buh-million dollar over the seas. So really, pirating is either made to spite the publishers or because the guys already dont have the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragnar Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Problem here is 1. No beta / demo 2. They launched a week ago ( if they blocked all non paying accounts after 4-7 day,s of use ) stating demo ended They could have sold a lot more copies 3. Everything server side * server side IA omg ( if it was local it would not have taxed there servers ) 4. Pirate,s will always be there ( especial on mobile devices <<kids cant afford to pay a phone + games So yea in a sens they killed themselves Tough i think its bad to ( FULLY ) play a pirated game I pirate every game there is on the p.c Play it for 30 min - 2 h ( and if i like it ill buy it ) Sins there are hardly any demo,s any more the only way to get a peek is to download the pirated copy Best was if devs made a demo 2-4 weeks b4 release ( then every one could download / play that ) End would get a lot of players that like it to buy it on release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScienceMachine Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Again, it's either mostly terrible service (this factor goes all ways, ie; Publisher's side/Customer's side) and the fact that the customer just can't muster up enough money for it. (especially the over seas peeps) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirmentlegen Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 steam provides an amazing service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexy Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 demos are a problem, they can be heavily scripted and give a better impression of the game in terms of content and stability so they in my aye don't worth nothing, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson P. Higgsbury Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 demos are a problem, they can be heavily scripted and give a better impression of the game in terms of content and stability so they in my aye don't worth nothing,True, but the Don't Starve demo has no scripting at all. It's just the standard game with a time limit slapped on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urteem Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) The problem isn't piracy.. it's cheap people who either don't understand the work it takes to make something like a game or just don't care. Personally I like to "try before I buy". Some examples of games I've pirated: Hotline Miami, FTL, Project Zomboid and yes, Don't Starve. I downloaded them all via torrents. I also bought all 4 of them the same day I downloaded them. A good game is worth buying because I like good games. Since I want to see more good, original games I don't mind paying. Some people just don't understand that game devs make games so they (wait for it....) don't starve. IMO most people who pirate games without paying have prolly never lived on their own and therefor don't understand what it's like to really need money. Or maybe they ARE living on their own and understand all too well what it's like to need money... AKA sincerely cannot afford them. And if you can't afford to buy it anyway is there really any harm in playing it? I guess what I'm trying to say is it's kind of a complex issue. Sure it sucks when things like this happens, but piracy doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing. I'm of the opinion that there are enough people like me out there that piracy shouldn't really be an issue to a game dev. Alas, I'm not a game dev so I can't really say for sure though. Just my 2 cents. I know for PR's sake they probably won't comment, but I would love to hear Klei's thoughts on this. EDIT: Only just noticed my minor necro. Whatever, necromancers are awesome anyway. Edited January 13, 2013 by urteem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excess Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I know for PR's sake they probably won't comment, but I would love to hear Klei's thoughts on this.Do some searching, lurk the forums a bit and you'll find some comments they've made in previous threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Cox Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I don't think Piracy is a bad thing. Mostly people install pirated games because they either cannot afford it, or trying to see if it's worth to pay it.And of course, i pirated Don't Starve. I will of course perhaps donate some couple o' dollars in the future or buy it.Because the reason is i simply cannot afford it, you see, i'm under a money crisis me and my family has. So i hope you respect that.But i honestly do not think pirated games are a big issue in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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