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Death of a Nomad

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winddbourne    15

Since I started playing a few weeks ago things have steadily gotten more difficult for players wanting to try a nomadic hunting strategy. A lot of the "improvements" are exciting, and they are intended to make farming more of a challenge, but it seems like the nomad needs a bit of TLC or we are going to become extinct.

Setting up a base is becoming more and more tempting early on. If nothing else I need a spot for some chests and a fire pit. Yet the idea of constantly staying put, gathering poop, and tending to 30 berry bushes and twenty farms makes me yawn. I don't want to do it. I want to explore. I want to take risks. I want to slowly landscape the world.

So I try to hunt hounds every few days for meat and to collect teeth as trophies. I kill pigs every few days and work on my own pig village "ranch", I find a spot with lots of rabbits and hunt them for a few days, then I head out to look for wild berries, collect honey, go fishing in the swamp, hunt frogs, kill tentacles, and maybe go looking for some more rocks.

To make it all work I usually play with willow as there is too much risk of losing track of time and having to carry materials for torches makes my trips way too short; I simply run out of inventory space unless I'm using the backpack, and using the backpack makes me die if I suddenly decide I need to chase down a gobbler, or hear a pack of hounds with now stored log suit.

I understand that the changes are meant to make "play it safe" turtle players move around more and be challenged, but they also force me to turtle more and more. The idea of Krampus destroying my chests if I hunt rabbits makes my blood run cold and forces me to think of berries and poop as a viable strategy. The idea of pig houses running out of pigs makes me shiver.

I already avoid hunting beefolos as the challenge of the herd is outweighed by the idea of them going extinct, and I'm careful to make sure tallbirds lay eggs before I kill them when I bother hunting them at all so the resource renews and I have something different to do on odd days. But it's getting harder, and more and more items are coming out (like bird cages) to make a camp feel really home-like.

So this thread is about what to do for us nomads who really need help before our fingers are covered in poop and berry stains, our camp is surrounded by farm plots, and bird trapping is the closest we ever come to facing "danger" in the game.

1) Torches need to stack in my inventory. If I'm traveling I need two torches every night just to avoid having to carry materials for a campfire in my limited slots. Yet two torches take up more space than I'd need for a ton of logs and grass, plus it puts me in danger of being caught somewhere that doesn't have the right materials should I go exploring. Last game died because I wound up in a forest next to a swamp and was totally out of cut grass in my inventory when my last torch died with wolfgang.

2) We need better backpacks that act as armor of some sort, again it's inventory space. If I'm not going to settle down, and have to worry about krampus getting mad at me for hunting rabbits on the plains then I need to be able to carry more stuff on my person and not rely on chests/campfires scattered around at set intervals.

3) Pig houses need a way to be fertilized like berries. They should NEVER be a limited resource. Compare them to berries for a moment. I have to take damage killing the pigs, and risk making a mistake and getting rushed, I have to worry about were-pigs if I decide to be a rancher and settle them around a camp, and I have to dress in armor of some sort or eat a ton to heal up after every battle so it's resource intensive either in food or in logs/rope.

4) Beefolo breeding season needs to come Soon! We also could use herds of deer on the plains if you don't want us hunting just rabbits there, maybe also some sort of giant ant to hunt in "rocky" biomes to make it not just tall-bird central once all the rocks are mined. Apple trees or other plants with a fruiting season would be useful to. That way it's not just all berries all the time on fertile grasslands. Let me mix things up more and tempt me with more types of resource/terrain.

5) I really worry about this queen spider making it even more dangerous and problematic for me to harvest spiders for monster meat. Combined with krampus it seems like the aim of next patch is entirely to kill my desire to play as a hunter/gatherer, and force me into a solid defensive position. Not sure what to suggest here, except that the developer has said they don't want us to just camp, and every change they are making that supposedly make it more challenging for a camper, makes it 20X more challenging to go any other path.

Anyone else have suggestions?

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promero14    17

I play as a nomad! I make a firepit and one farm in every island so i can move between islands without worring about picking grass. I reached Day 40 without issues at all, died on day 41 sadly because i tried to kill to many spiders because i was testing.... U_U. The game is not hard at all so far, pretty easy. Probabily being nomad will be harder later but since the devs don't want people to stay in one place i'm happy with my playstyle.

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winddbourne    15

Your not the sort of nomad I'm talking about promero, your a farmer with several spots you farm. When I talk about a nomadic existence I mean playing with no farm plots, nothing that requires poop at all. I'm a nomadic hunter gatherer, your a slash and burn farmer, and the people who annoy the developers are settled agriculturalists.

It's not that it's hard, I reached day 60 without building a single farm. But like you I did have set camps, and chests. I also did things that are considered exploits when done by settled farmers. I killed lots of rabbits, and lots of pigs. I wore a log suit and a football helmet at all times so I needed logs and pig skins often. I killed monsters for food and used crock pots instead of farms in my camps.

The point is that each change makes it more tempting to build a farm, replant a bunch of berry bushes, and start gathering manure. Your doing that with your farms, which makes my point completely. :)

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