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Overanalysing Curse of the Moon Quay Lore (Monkey Lore Monkey Lore Monkey Lore-)

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__IvoCZE__    10757

I think is that Wagstaff tried to pull the actual lunar energy into the "real world"tm but instead created a rift sucking the cursed monkeys into Constant.
Think off it as a Lunar Magic Heist gone wrong.

3 hours ago, Scypham said:

It has a distinct shape of two 'eyes', a mess of 'hair' and three docks which you can interpret as either teeth or a bushy moustache. This could be a stretch but it seems that the monkeys designed the island to look like Wagstaff.

I myself see a more of a Medusa rather than Wagstaff, it would fit the occassional ancient mythology sprinkled in (i.e. salt statues, the king/queen statues missing heads as Romans replaced heads from statues of older emperors, etc.), however Wagstaff also seems just as a valid interpretation, if not more.

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Moonatik    397
3 hours ago, Scypham said:



There's also an inverted portal animation that seemingly isn't used yet. Based on the way it moves, it seems to be sucking stuff up rather than spewing it out like the one we have ingame. I imagine this might not be unused necessarily, but it's something we might see in the future. @QuartzBeam has the theory that all the 'setting the stage' updates might involve things generating from these sorts of portals, which I could totally see and would love.
 

 

Could it be possible for Klei to use all Wagstaff do for creating islands like that, with portals which give us a view of other planes. Monkeys this one and some Shipwrecked style, but as Wagstaff testing his stuff, he could make appear other things, from other planes, on other islands. Until... something ?

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chaosmonkey    381
5 hours ago, Scypham said:

So the fact that we now see there's some sort of consequence to his meddling with space and time is interesting

Loved the post, great as always. This stood out to me though -- why is this a consequence rather than by design? Given all the junk on the island, it almost seems like this is Wagstaff's connection to the constant that he uses to project, but also which happens to be used as a convenient garbage disposal.

The curse itself could be explained by this strange energy -- whatever it is that wagstaff is doing to rip open this interdimensional portal. The accursed trinkets could be random items (more junk) coming from Wagstaff's dimension which become tainted by the portal. Or perhaps tainted by the lunar energy which also has crossed the portal boundary. We know the trinkets cause monkeyism, so to me it's most likely that the population of the island are pirates which were transformed to monkeys.

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QuartzBeam    8370
2 hours ago, Moonatik said:

Could it be possible for Klei to use all Wagstaff do for creating islands like that, with portals which give us a view of other planes. Monkeys this one and some Shipwrecked style, but as Wagstaff testing his stuff, he could make appear other things, from other planes, on other islands. Until... something ?

That was my thought. A trio of Unnatural Portals would be a great way to introduce biomes and creatures that would not make sense as "natural" parts of the DST climate.

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RichNCrispy    53
2 hours ago, QuartzBeam said:

That was my thought. A trio of Unnatural Portals would be a great way to introduce biomes and creatures that would not make sense as "natural" parts of the DST climate.

Imagine if you could change the portal and suddenly the monkeys was something different like lizard people or whatever.

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Ardcrumb    770

My biggest takeaway is that Wilson is still a megachad, making dumb s&€@ still. 

I'll never forget the beard hair turf

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Dragonboooorn    922
19 hours ago, Scypham said:

There are other things which allude to Wagstaff as well. Once of which will probably go unnoticed to most people but if you generate enough Moon Quay islands you realise there's a pattern to them.

 

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Huh. While one of them surely looks like Wagstaff the other two reminds me of... Wavey Jones?

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Moonatik    397
14 hours ago, QuartzBeam said:

That was my thought. A trio of Unnatural Portals would be a great way to introduce biomes and creatures that would not make sense as "natural" parts of the DST climate.

This first island is so small, right ? It let some good space for more.

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ArubaroBeefalo    19491
15 hours ago, QuartzBeam said:

That was my thought. A trio of Unnatural Portals would be a great way to introduce biomes and creatures that would not make sense as "natural" parts of the DST climate.

with this the game now has even more pissibilities

if they dont plan to add new land biomes or rework the redundant ones, would be cool if they remove them to add more islands

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skile    376

about bananas. 

from what we know, most characters seem to be from early/mid 20th century and used to live in colder climates (except shipwrecked gang), so there's a solid chance half of the characters haven't even eaten bananas before getting to constant. 

although it's probably just a joke about characters getting used to Constant. 

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ADM    12360
2 hours ago, ArubaroBeefalo said:

pissibilities

more

WAT ?

Please someone, stop Wagstaff !

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Phizzle    41

The Unnatural Portal can be fed moon gleams to temporarily increase the rate of stuff it creates. 

The unused inverted portal looks like a powered version of the Unnatural portal. 

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Danirex    14

Damn guys!!!!! I think the previous theory that the monkeys could be pirates with the curse if that is true then that dimension leads to Shipwerckedddd if you think about it wagstaff did not have access to the world of Together by himself he could only be in hamlet and shipwercked so maybe his lunar experiment was carried out in Shipwercked and as it went wrong he opened the portal and took them together but maybe they became a monkey because of the curse because of the queen who would originate from shipwercked and maybe because of the Moon essence opted for her powers and since she considers it a gift, perhaps she purposely transformed the pirates as if it were a gift and if you think about it, it is logical that the queen exists in shipwercked since primates have the same skin color and if she is the queen wilbur would be the king I mean for me that is the theory:wilson_horror: What the fuckkk

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Just-guy    3403
23 minutes ago, Danirex said:

wagstaff did not have access to the world of Together by himself he could only be in hamlet and shipwercked

But he is in Together:

https://dontstarve.fandom.com/wiki/Grainy_Transmission

16 minutes ago, Danirex said:

the queen who would originate from shipwercked

The Queen isn't from Shipwrecked, she and all the content of the Moon Quay come from the portal rift that Wagstaff opened.

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Danirex    14

Y por que no puede ser de shipwercked la grieta no dice de donde es espesificamente asi que no hay nada que diga que no puede ser una supocicion

No eso es un holograma el no esta realmente es una proyección

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Just-guy    3403
19 minutes ago, Danirex said:

No eso es un holograma el no esta realmente es una proyección

Wagstaff on his own appears to be a projection, in singleplayer, the less health he has the more distorted he starts to look and sound. From the wiki:

When Wagstaff is damaged, his appearance and voice will be distorted. The lower his health, the more distorted he will become.

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goblinball    1352

If wagstaff is able to open a portal on the monkey island, then maybe he’ll be able to open the sealed portal in the archives…

the wagstaff portal has 4 “ends” to it, and the archives portal has 4 orange circles on it. This is probably just a coincidence, but it could be a sign that these portals are related.

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Dextops    4271
34 minutes ago, goblinball said:

If wagstaff is able to open a portal on the monkey island, then maybe he’ll be able to open the sealed portal in the archives…

the wagstaff portal has 4 “ends” to it, and the archives portal has 4 orange circles on it. This is probably just a coincidence, but it could be a sign that these portals are related.

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Both portals are derived from something lunar related so he could probably open the archive portal but problem is if he actually knows about it 

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Danirex    14

Yo digo que si tuvieramos el maldito trailer pudieramos planetar más teorias PERO AHORITA PASAN 10 AÑOS Y NO ACABA DE SALIR!!!!!!!!!!!

:wilson_enraged:

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