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minespatch    95558
4 minutes ago, dish-order man said:

Therefore, I conclude that Wx wants to totally give up his identity as an assistant of Wagstaff (together with the memory, since Wx finally crushed the circuit) and become a new "noble" mechanical life

Like a spy for a tyrannical regime to save their skin?

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Nickolai    2462
10 minutes ago, minespatch said:

Here me out, I know JEff Agala called the person "wagstaff" on their tumblr blog, but what if the person with the glove that Winona was trying to save in the portal in "last of kin" is the husk of a shell that WX used to be? A human corpse still alive but missing components?

Ah yes, Wagstaff kept WX's human body just to chuck it in the portal 20 years later.

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minespatch    95558
Just now, Nickolai said:

Ah yes, Wagstaff kept WX's human body just to chuck it in the portal 20 years later.

Then why destroy the other wx prototypes? He seems to be removing loose ends to protect his identity.

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sudoku    2125
9 minutes ago, minespatch said:

Then why destroy the other wx prototypes? He seems to be removing loose ends to protect his identity.

I think him burning the prototypes shows that he deemed the experiment a failure, which explains why he pushed WX in the portal.

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minespatch    95558
5 minutes ago, Scrumch said:

I have a feeling Wagstaff needed a spare human body in order to make his own portal...

That's what I think too. There's great mystery about WX's human corpse/body now.

 

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Nickolai    2462
16 minutes ago, minespatch said:

Then why destroy the other wx prototypes? He seems to be removing loose ends to protect his identity.

My comment was meant to be a joke sorry.

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LinknAllie    1535

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At certain points you can see flashes of other Automata or parts.  Mainly towards the end before the argument with Wagstaff

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I'm realizing... First Winona happened, then Webber's short, one of Wanda's quotes had certain implications and now the Wx-78 reveal (although they were always kinda connected to Wagstaff)...

that old man really gets around, doesn't he?

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Juanasdf    64

One of the cogs in his heart seems like a time piece from Wanda, since it has 2 hands (and it makes his heart tick (?)) so either she helped in the creation in some way, she gave/sold Wagstaff a few pieces or Wagstaff stole them / her research. It would also make sense as to why WX-78 went insane, as shadow fuel artifacts make you insane... with some exceptions.
What I don't fully understand is how WX-78 apparently doesn't need a heart anymore.
EDIT: Looking at WX's description for time pieces they state "INCOMPATIBLE HARDWARE", but Wanda's time pieces made in the constant might be different / a more advanced version than the simple cog seen in the video, specially since her quote states "It's no small feat to recreate small, precise mechanisms out in the wilderness."

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Juanasdf    64
6 minutes ago, Hornete said:

It wasn't a literal heart in that it functioned how hearts in organic creatures may. It was their empathy module, and when it was fully restored, they had remembered all their past memories and all their human emotions came soaring through them.

Ah I see, honestly without knowing that, I was going to theorize something about Shadow fuel being stronger in the constant and its heart leaving some kind of repercussions on WX-78 for having it inside them for such a long time, similar to how shadow fuel consumed the ancients but to a lesser degree.

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GrapeVruit    601
1 hour ago, Nickolai said:

I like to think in the heated argument between Wagstaff and WX, Wagstaff probably said something like "I made you" or "You are my creation", which crossed the line with WX.

WX being told that they are nothing but a tool to Wagstaff is heart breaking because WX was Wagstaff's trusted lab partner.

How I saw it, I thought it was more along the lines of Wagstaff telling WX that enough was enough and they should cease the creation of more automatons and WX arguing to Wagstaff that what they were doing could have the potential to be revolutionary technology, as to me it seems that they were fixated on cybernetics/robotic augmentation and were adamant that the process could be perfected. 

Whether it was fear of what these automatons were capable of or Wagstaff not liking what his friend had become, he decided to burn any remnants of the machines and pushed his friend into the constant. 

Maybe that's also another reason why WX hates organic beings, as apart from thinking that organic parts make robots less efficient, having your hard work that you believe to advance humanity by a few decades, destroyed by your close colleague and then sent away into an unknown world would definitely lead you to think that humans are the scum of the earth.

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LinknAllie    1535

Forgive my horrible tracing but this is what I saw when I he was looking into his reflection in the short.  The seemingly white or greying hair around the edges also seems to signify that he's also old like Wagstaff.  Probably why he decided to put himself into a robot body to begin with.

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Baark0    1778
5 hours ago, CremeLover said:

I believe all the scenes are from WX-78 point of view, since we are seeing his memory.

Which would mean WX-78 was the one who wrote the part of "biological components are faulty", and the one who had the idea to swap them for mechanical parts, and probably the one who though it would be a good idea to transfer to a mechanical body, since it was the one who used the helmet voluntarily.

My guess is, after a while WX-78 started having flashbacks from its human body, and maybe concluded its mechanical components were to blame (the empathy module not working by this point, probably misinterpreting what its was sensing from its new body)

At around 1:22, you can see the blueprints being discarded followed by a flashback with new robotical bodies and more experiments made by WX-78, then an argument with Wagstaff in a room with new robot models followed by Wagstaff burning the experiments in the fire. This is also what the backstory on the compendium says.

After the flashback ends, and when WX-78 suddenly feels a sense of humanity for the first time since the transfer took place, and after everything comes crashing down and reality sets in, WX-78 just grabs the empathy module and rips it out, finishing off its human part for good.

Getting Viktor vibes from this

for those who dont know who viktor is: https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Viktor

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kiwikenobi    1569
6 hours ago, minespatch said:

Here me out, I know JEff Agala called the person "wagstaff" on their tumblr blog, but what if the person with the glove that Winona was trying to save in the portal in "last of kin" is the husk of a shell that WX used to be? A human corpse still alive but missing components?

Maybe WX was Wagstaff's sibling or other relative, so they were both Wagstaff.

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Bumber64    221

 

8 hours ago, RoseAppraiser said:

Voxola and Wagstaff had a peculiar naming system so it likely ties in that way. 

PR-76 was the radio

ML-77 was the gramophone

WX-78

 

Are the numbers years, or does that not fit in with the existing timeline?

Edit: Nope. Must just be invention number.

7 hours ago, Scrumch said:

What I want to know is, how many of Wagstaff's inventions are actually HIS? He previously claimed that WX-78 was HIS design, but this trailer shows that to be false. Could most of his inventions actually partly or FULLY be invented by WX? Did Wagstaff banish WX in order to take credit for all their inventions? We already know from Hamlet that Wagstaff isn't a very moral person.

Wagstaff confirmed as Thomas Edison.

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goblinball    1167

I noticed this gear with clock hands at the very end of the short among the blueprints. Now, this does not confirm any relation to Wanda; however, i think it’s worth pointing out. Also I mentioned that you can see wx working on the wagstaff portal in another thread, however upon further rewatching I’ve noticed you can actually see the top of it in another part of the short. This implies that Wagstaff and WX worked on the portal together for quite a while, and perhaps it was very important to Wagstaff.

I mentioned this in a thread before the WX rework released, but I’ve always wondered about why WX and Wagstaff both have interest in Lunar Shenanigans. Now that we know they were once colleagues, perhaps their shared desire isn’t a coincidence. Perhaps together they were researching alter before WX turned themselves into a robot.

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medabunny    20

There seems to be numbers and symbols sprinkled throughout the video, very reminiscent of the first game's update trailers. The most prominent is right after whoever WX used to be puts on the helmet. There's definitely some numbers, ones I've been able to make out are 3, 9, 6 and possibly 19? The others are symbols though.

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