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Walter should get the wolfgang Treatment?

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Wolfgang after the first few weeks of his rework got a complete overhaul and then some 

should Walter get the same treatment?

A few buffs?

or is he fine as is? 

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Cheggf    9504

Walter is fun and good, and has always been like this. Wolfgang is getting these changes because his rework changed him from fun and good to unfun and bad. I think of this as his rework and the previous update just never happened and is blocked from my memory.

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x0-VERSUS-1y    8972
On 3/15/2022 at 8:10 PM, NoKrampusSack said:

Wolfgang after the first few weeks of his rework got a complete overhaul and then some 

should Walter get the same treatment?

A few buffs?

or is he fine as is? 

Walter is ok in general for his intended role. He has a big pro and con: Sanity. Don't get damage and won't lose sanity at all - valid vice versa as well. Still quite a few utilities for his sniping Slingshot depending on your goals plus game-play. Has a bit of adjacent-perks clutter, but fine in the end. Sure, if he could get more Pellet types or a nick of rework for current arsenal (buffs), would be wonderful; not a must though. Oh, and a Walter-main here.

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Hornete    16487

I just want some improvements to the poop pellets and slow-down rounds, some more ammo types along the road, and I'm happy.

Oh, and uh, maybe do something about that bee downside, I get it's for flavor, and it would be perfectly fine to me, but when Bee Queen exists, it just makes her an annoying fight as Walter, haha. 

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Maybe a dog    337

He doesnt need the Wolfgang treatment. Just some minor number changes here and there. And maybe some different effects on his rarer ammo and changing up his bee allergy (removal or some kind of "allergy shot" that neutralises it temporarily).

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Cannoli    150
24 minutes ago, NoKrampusSack said:

Wolfgang after the first few weeks of his rework got a complete overhaul and then some 

should Walter get the same treatment?

A few buffs?

or is he fine as is? 

Well, I think Walter sucks.

His slingshot is the worst weapon of the game in cost x benefits and Woby, well, is Woby. 

He doesn't have a real advantage vs any other character with a tamed beefalo.

Maybe buff (A LOT) his slingshot (power and velocity), or turn Woby a Beefalo with 1000hp... Than this guy will play the game. I see more Wes than Walters in game.

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25 minutes ago, Cheggf said:

Walter is fun and good, and has always been like this. Wolfgang is getting these changes because his rework changed him from fun and good to unfun and bad. I think of this as his rework and the previous update just never happened and is blocked from my memory.

i would like to see a tiny slingshot buff

i do get your point though

 

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Guille6785    2979

imo his slingshot should be buffed and bee allergy removed but other than that I think he's fine, I swear a lot of the walter hate is only a bandwagon and a lot of people haven't actually tried to take advantage of his other perks

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Guille6785    2979
4 minutes ago, Cannoli said:

Which are?

+9 inventory slots, beefalo speed shortly after spawning in, not affected by negative sanity drain

you just proved my point

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Cannoli    150
7 minutes ago, Guille6785 said:

you just proved my point

What's your point?

7 minutes ago, Guille6785 said:

+9 inventory slots

So... Chester.

7 minutes ago, Guille6785 said:

beefalo speed shortly after spawning in

Everybody can get beefalo speed around day 3-5 (with a 1000hp tank)

7 minutes ago, Guille6785 said:

 not affected by negative sanity drain

5 minutes ago, Cannoli said:

 

Well, sanity drain is not an issue

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Guille6785    2979
7 minutes ago, Cannoli said:

 

I'm not selling you walter as the cure of cancer but when you make these kinds of comparisons sooner or later you'll realize that the majority of the roster are barely stronger than wilson (and hell like a third of the roster could be placed as equal to wilson or lower), but I care about characters being fun and offering new things more than I care about them being strong, and even then I did just say that walter could use a minor buff, I just don't think he needs a rework because he already offers different ways to approach the game that so many people who just watched that one freddofilms video haven't even bothered to try

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Cannoli    150
14 minutes ago, Guille6785 said:

I'm not selling you walter as the cure of cancer but when you make these kinds of comparisons sooner or later you'll realize that the majority of the roster are barely stronger than wilson (and hell like a third of the roster could be placed as equal to wilson or lower), but I care about characters being fun and offering new things more than I care about them being strong, and even then I did just say that walter could use a minor buff, I just don't think he needs a rework because he already offers different ways to approach the game that so many people who just watched that one freddofilms video haven't even bothered to try

Well, I don't know who is freeddofilms and don't care about it. I talk just based on my own experiences.

I think Walter is extremely not fun, and I think he is the least popular character. 9 slots is not a "different thing".

His lame slingshot is a different thing, but... It's lame!

Even who talks "Walter is fun, Walter is ok, Walter is in a good spot" barely play him.

Something is wrong

34 minutes ago, Guille6785 said:

 bee allergy removed

14 minutes ago, Guille6785 said:

 and offering new things more than I care about

 

Your point is.... Inconsistent hehehe

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Guille6785    2979
9 minutes ago, Cannoli said:

your point is.... Inconsistent hehehe

the bee allergy basically removes ways to play the game by forcing you to cheese bq

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Well-met    7231

if the "wolfgang treatment" means endless u-turns and backtracking to accomodate ceaseless whine then no thanks, Walter is in a great spot.

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Cannoli    150
3 minutes ago, Guille6785 said:

the bee allergy basically removes ways to play the game by forcing you to cheese bq

I don't disagree. It's a lame perk, not fun, for a lame character, not fun hehe

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SinancoTheBest    6305
21 minutes ago, Cannoli said:

I think he is the least popular character.

That part, at least, is factually wrong, not even close. That honor belongs to Wes. Walter often finds himself comfortably in the middle.image.thumb.png.5e766c41618d57b603fe1dc6d00d129f.png

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Cannoli    150
1 minute ago, SinancoTheBest said:

That part, at least, is factually wrong, not even close. That honor belongs to Wes. Walter often finds himself comfortably in the middle.image.thumb.png.5e766c41618d57b603fe1dc6d00d129f.png

From when is this chart?

2 minutes ago, SinancoTheBest said:

That part, at least, is factually wrong, not even close. That honor belongs to Wes. Walter often finds himself comfortably in the middle.image.thumb.png.5e766c41618d57b603fe1dc6d00d129f.png

Well, I see way more Maxwell, Wormwood and Wortox than Walter.

But, many people uses Walter just to move the marble pieces, then switch back to other character. 

See Winona in the graphs.... Open the game and search a "real" Winona. That's different

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SinancoTheBest    6305
Just now, Cannoli said:

From when is this chart?

From now, data was updated 2 minutes ago when  got it. The statistics tool at Don't Starve Together - Data Visualization (resamvi.io) always reports the most recent data it can gather when it works. Standings do change from time to time and depending on the updates/gameplay changes but the general gist of whre they are is pretty consistent +-5 spots. Some things that almost never change is Wendy Wigfrid and Wilson being top 3 and Wes & Wurt being bottom 2 

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Cannoli    150
Just now, SinancoTheBest said:

From now, data was updated 2 minutes ago when  got it. The statistics tool at Don't Starve Together - Data Visualization (resamvi.io) always reports the most recent data it can gather when it works. Standings do change from time to time and depending on the updates/gameplay changes but the general gist of whre they are is pretty consistent +-5 spots. Some things that almost never change is Wendy Wigfrid and Wilson being top 3 and Wes & Wurt being bottom 2 

Oh yeah, I forgot Wurt and Wes is not a character. Anyway, maybe some people like this guy, I hate it hehe

Ballons > stupid slingshot.

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Dr. Safety    6349

I think his slingshot needs to be better. I get that ranged combat is extremely powerful in a game like this, but his damage sanity mechanic offsets that. It just makes him choose between using mediocre ranged damage or being a mediocre melee character due to his sanity loss on damage.

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ShadowDuelist    11008
11 minutes ago, SinancoTheBest said:

That part, at least, is factually wrong, not even close. That honor belongs to Wes. Walter often finds himself comfortably in the middle.image.thumb.png.5e766c41618d57b603fe1dc6d00d129f.png

Holy molly, Wendy sure kept gaining popularity since the last time I checked this chart. She's like the default "go to" for most people apparently.

Back on OP's topic, I won't add more than what was said, Walter's alright except for his slingshot: tweaking magic pellets, shooting speed and adding new types would really help.
About the bee allergy, could maybe be fixed by making him immune to the extra damage so long as he uses a bee hat. (So it would still be a thing but you have a way to counter it at least, and fight BQ in a legit way).



 

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