gigamoi Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Time : 2:13 (133 seconds) CPU : Ryzen 5 3600x Graphics card : RTX 2060 RAM : 32GB DDR4 3600 MHz CAS : 16-19-19-39 HDD : Samsung 970 EVO PLUS NVMe M.2 MZ-V7S1T0BW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santosch Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Time : 2:06 or 126 seconds CPU : Ryzen 5 3600 @ 4.325 GHz Graphics card : Gigabyte RX 6700 XT Gaming OC 12G (Smart access memory enabled) RAM : Crucial Ballistix 32GB @ 3600 MHz CAS : 16-19-16-40 SSD : Sabrent Rocket M.2 NVMe 1TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screwygirl Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 14 hours ago, Tuberi said: Do you happen to have a DOCP setting? It's what Asus calls XMP in their bios. Could also just be that the laptop doesn't have that option and you would need to manually overclock the memory which is a bit more involved than just turning on XMP No, I looked it up in the Alienware tech support. This particular model doesn't support XMP, apparently. Someone else had asked a similar question. It's only for my model, too, which is a bit frustrating. But I have no complaints. I love my machine... a lot. It's a beast for power, though. I think that is its only downfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putz1103 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 33 minutes ago, thehaunted318 said: RAM frequency tells only half the story. The other part is timings. A RAM module with 3000 Mhz and CL 15 has a latency of 10 ns, a module with 3200 Mhz and CL 15 also has a latency of 10 ns, same 10ns for a 3600mhz and CL 18. They should roughly perform in the same area. That is true on latency, but I think it's pretty evident in this thread that bandwidth (throughput) is a better indicator of performance. There have been people that have tested ram frequency without changing CPU or cas latencies and have shown a notable improvement. I don't discount your comment at all, but I think ONI is more interested in pure throughput than speed of first round trip. It would be an interesting test, though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPDuckling Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Time : 2:36 (156 Seconds) CPU : Intel Core I5- 8600K Graphics card : GTX 1070 RAM : 32GB 3200MHz CAS : 16 18 18 36 HDD : 1TB Sabrent nvme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoozy Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 10 hours ago, Hoozy said: I have 2 video cards so ran test on both. Also windowed vs fullscreen. Didn't make a huge difference. Time : 2:20 (140 seconds) - (see more details after machine info) CPU : AMD Ryzen 9 3900X @ 3.8Ghz Graphics card : AMD Radeon RX 5700XT & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950 RAM : 64GB DDR4 3200Mhz CAS : 16,19,19,38 HDD : Samsung 980 Pro 2TB Detailed Speed Results -------------------------------- AMD Radeon RX 5700XT Windowed (How I usually run ONI): 3440x1440 144hz - 2:20 (140 seconds) Fullscreen: 1920x1080 144hz - 2:21 (141 seconds) 1920x1080 60hz - 2:23 (143 seconds) 3440x1440 144hz - 2:20 (140 seconds) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950 Fullscreen: 1920x1080 60hz - 2:16 (136 seconds) This got me thinking, so I did more tests. Memory & Overclocking Tests Using Ryzen Master for overclocking and speed adjustments: Memory Speed 3200 3600 CPU Default 2:20 2:15 Speed PBO 2:20 2:15 Manual 3.9Ghz 2:25 2:22 CAS @ 3200 - 16,19,19,38 CAS @ 3600: 16,19,19,39 Default & Precision Boost Overdrive (PBO) will automatically boost cores. 3.9Ghz manually locked them all to one speed. For me, memory speed makes more of a difference than anything else I can change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_discostu Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Hey FJ, late to the party, but i want to share my data. Keep on keeping on, greetings from germany and to the community! Time : 02:29 or 149 sec CPU : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHz 3.50 GHz Graphics card : AMD Radeaon (TM) R9 390 Series RAM : 16 GB (DDR4 2133MHz) CAS* : 15/15/15/36 HDD : SanDisk SSD PLUS 1000GB *corrected timings, added screenshot of HWiNFO: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerdeld Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 CPU Clock, bandwidth and manual timings for the Ram are by far the most useful for Oni. Overclocking your ram with manual tight timings such as primary/secondairy and tertiary offer a lot of extra performance for Oni. Equal to overclocking your CPU for me but it might be because i have kits that overclock very well. Also i tested 3733/3800/3866 cl16 tight manual timings against 3400/3466/3533cl14 and 3733cl16+ Gave me the most performance boost in Oni and a lot of other games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Kerdeld said: CPU Clock, bandwidth and manual timings for the Ram are by far the most useful for Oni. Overclocking your ram with manual tight timings such as primary/secondairy and tertiary offer a lot of extra performance for Oni. Equal to overclocking your CPU for me but it might be because i have kits that overclock very well. Also i tested 3733/3800/3866 cl16 tight manual timings against 3400/3466/3533cl14 and 3733cl16+ Gave me the most performance boost in Oni and a lot of other games. ok. what company memory you use? also can you share your HWiNFO image Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bummins Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Alienware M17 R2 Laptop from March 2020 Time : 02:41 or 161 sec with default Laptop Fanspeed Time : 02:34 or 154 sec with Max speed Laptop Fanspeed CPU : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9750H CPU @ 2.60GHz Graphics card : GPU0: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630 Shared GPU memory 0.5/7.9 GB GPU1:NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 with Max-Q Design Dedicated GPU memory 2.7/8.0 GB RAM : 16 GB (DDR4 2667 MHz) CAS* : 19/19/19/43 HDD : PC SN730 NVMe WDC 512GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyraelpl Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Kerdeld said: CPU Clock, bandwidth and manual timings for the Ram are by far the most useful for Oni. Overclocking your ram with manual tight timings such as primary/secondairy and tertiary offer a lot of extra performance for Oni. Equal to overclocking your CPU for me but it might be because i have kits that overclock very well. Also i tested 3733/3800/3866 cl16 tight manual timings against 3400/3466/3533cl14 and 3733cl16+ Gave me the most performance boost in Oni and a lot of other games. Has anyone, you maybe, been able to check how much of a difference does it make for oni to use 1Rx8 and 1Rx16 ram kits? What i mean exactly is tested by linus h e r e but not for ONI specifically! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StB155 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 HP Spectre X360 15" TIME: 2:59:82 CPU: I7 10750H GPU: GTX1650Ti RAM: 2x8GB @3000MHz CAS: 21/21/21 HDD: 512GB Intel NVMe 13" MacBook Pro TIME: 2:36:43 CPU: M1 GPU: 8core RAM: 16GB CAS: ? HDD 512TB Will do benchmark with the actual PC on weekend (5800X/3090/2x16 3400 CL14/Gen4 NVMe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudmanONI Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Aaaaaand apparently I need to update my pc haha Ran borderless window mode at 2650x1440. The load to 1:52 and used 8 GB of ram, which is half my system ram. Dang! CPU Hovered around 70-80% on all 4 cores with occasional spikes to 90+% First Run without restarting Time: 3:11 or 191 seconds CPU: Intel i5-4670k @ Overclock of 4.2GHz all cores GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Stock clocks Ram: 4x4GB DDR3 1600 MHz Cas: 9-9-9-27 HDD: SK hynix Gold S31 1TB 3D NAND 2.5in SATA SSD Second Run without restarting Time: 2:52 or 172 seconds Third run after a restart and closing startup programs like discord and torrent clients. I shaved 10 seconds off the load time, down to 1:35 Time: 2:56 or 176 seconds It appears having a restart doesn't really change the runtime of the benchmark for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyroSA Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Lenovo Legion 5 Laptop, on second drive Was a fresh restart, but I've got lots of crap running in background. Closed some of them. 3 screens active with ONI running in a window. Pretty sure it's CPU locked though. Didn't turn on 'performance mode', which might have managed to Time : 2:48.99 -> 169s CPU : 4800H (AMD Ryzen 7 Mobile) Graphics card : GTX 1660 Ti 6GB RAM : 16GB 3200MHz (2x8GB) CAS : 22/22/22/52 HDD : Crucial P5 1TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 1 hour ago, tyraelpl said: Has anyone, you maybe, been able to check how much of a difference does it make for oni to use 1Rx8 and 1Rx16 ram kits? What i mean exactly is tested by linus h e r e but not for ONI specifically! mostly allot as 1Rx16 seems slower there is also some info in here https://www.notebookcheck.net/Beware-of-the-single-rank-x16-RAM-kits-sneaked-in-some-laptop-models-The-1Rx16-modules-have-significantly-lower-bandwidth-compared-to-the-1Rx8-variants.548193.0.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krunkkracker Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Hey there everyone! I've actually done this before and made a Reddit post about it. I built this system with ONI and other simulations like X4 Foundations, Dwarf Fortress, Aorura4x, and others in mind. If anyone wants further details about my subtimings, voltages, etc just ask! Also I can do a capture came recording/livestream in order to prove the 103. I still have some headroom left on my ram, I could probably get sub 100s with daily safe and stable settings if I took a day or two to tune my ram subtimings. Time : 103 CPU : 10900kf@5.2ghz/4.9ghz core/ring and HT off Graphics card : MSI Ventus LHR RTX 3060 ti RAM : 2x16gb 4500mhz Dual Rank CAS : 16-17-17-34 HDD : Adata SX8200 Pro 1tb https://old.reddit.com/r/Oxygennotincluded/comments/hcdwpv/performance_testing_and_scaling_with_cycle_time/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Thivierge Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 On 9/27/2021 at 5:18 PM, gabberworld said: DDR4-2666 is default what intel supports for this cpu, after that is O.C. thing is not every motherboard may support that by bios. and ye he does need also faster memory modules as well 4333 mhz i read from motherboard spec what i found at selling i feel like you can hit to the 100 sec with intel i9 11900k as you not use o.c like i understand no my result are default bios seting just enable xmp. I am not sure if overclocking the 11 gen for single core game will help because by itself its gonna overclock up to 5.3 on a single core and if im lucky i could expect to overclock up to 5.0 all core so not worth it (i really suck at overclocking last time i try was at 4.1 single core on a i7 4770k) ps im not sure about what im saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Krunkkracker said: Hey there everyone! I've actually done this before and made a Reddit post about it. I built this system with ONI and other simulations like X4 Foundations, Dwarf Fortress, Aorura4x, and others in mind. If anyone wants further details about my subtimings, voltages, etc just ask! Also I can do a capture came recording/livestream in order to prove the 103. I still have some headroom left on my ram, I could probably get sub 100s with daily safe and stable settings if I took a day or two to tune my ram subtimings. Time : 103 CPU : 10900kf@5.2ghz/4.9ghz core/ring and HT off Graphics card : MSI Ventus LHR RTX 3060 ti RAM : 2x16gb 4500mhz Dual Rank CAS : 16-17-17-34 HDD : Adata SX8200 Pro 1tb https://old.reddit.com/r/Oxygennotincluded/comments/hcdwpv/performance_testing_and_scaling_with_cycle_time/ 4500mhz. yeah i expected that someone can even come closer to 100 sec you have good pc. probaply can be even better with max memory speeds but not sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nase Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Time : 2:05 (125 seconds) CPU : AMD Ryzen 9 5900X (SAM enabled + undervolted via PBO using this method and a value of -30) Graphics card : XFX Radeon RX 6800 XT Speedster Merc 319 RAM : 2x32GB 3600mhz CAS : 18/22/22/42 HDD : SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-2TB I was hovering right at my CPU's thermal ceiling for the entire test, so the CPU was almost certainly throttled. Not unexpected as I'm using a small form-factor case with a single 120mm fan/rad. Looks like I'm not too far behind similar setups despite that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGPraxis Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 PC custom 8 months old Time : 2:00 - 120sec CPU : i7-10700F running@4.6Ghz HyperThreading on (55°C during test) GC : MSI GTX1060 RAM : 2x8Go DDR4-3200 RipjawsV (XMP on) CAS : 14-14-14-34 HDD : SSD 860EVO 250Go (Win10Pro64) + SSD 860EVO 1To (games) + hdd Samsung 2To MB MSI Z490 GP Time : 1:57 - 117sec CPU : i7-10700F running@4.6Ghz HyperThreading off (55°C during test) GC : MSI GTX1060 RAM : 2x8Go DDR4-3200 RipjawsV (XMP on) CAS : 14-14-14-34 HDD : SSD 860EVO 250Go (Win10Pro64) + SSD 860EVO 1To (games) + hdd Samsung 2To MB MSI Z490 GP Sidenotes : - i didn't have a lot of occasions to test with/without HT, thanks to this test i know i benefit a little from HT off, thanks FJ - this save is very laggy compared to my current 4500 cycles game that have almost no lag or stutter, but i don't have 3000 pacus, and the two large planetoids (main and 2nd) are almost entirely filled with oxygen and/or clean water - Max frequency of CPU 1core/4cores and RAM (and low CAS) is the key i guess - my CPU is cooled by a Thermalright TrueSpirit 120 Direct A + BeQuiet PureWing2 : i consider silent even at full charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZamolxisDacus Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Time: 3:16 (196s) CPU: Intel i7-5820K @ 3.30Ghz Graphics Card: Nvidia RTX 2070 RAM: 2x8Gb 1200Mhz DDR4 CAS: 15, 15, 15, 35 HDD: SanDisk 940G SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lautasdf Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 6 hours ago, PicaMula said: I did restart my PC Time : 226s CPU : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz Graphics card : GTX 650 (ancient stuff) RAM : 2x8 GB DDR3 1067 MHz CAS : (info got from CPU-Z "Memory" tab) Channel # Dual DRAM Frequency 532.1 MHz FSB:DRAM 1:4 CAS# Latency 7.0 clocks RAS# to CAS# Delay 7 clocks RAS# Precharge 7 clocks Cycle time 20 clocks HDD : Operating system: WDC WDS120G2G0A-00JH30 (120GB SSD) Steam / ONI: WDC WD10EZEX-00BN5A0 (1TB HDD 7200 RPM) [edit] Damn my poor old machine against your supercomputers is saddening. I guess what's hurting me the most is my DDR3 RAM or my ancient graphics card. Very old version of i7 probably not helping either xD That is a fine PC, the best of it's time. Graphics card is enough for ONI, 16GB of RAM is a lot even today. You might want to take a look at XMP, if your memory supports it, although it wasn't as stable as today standards back then (at least for me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 30 minutes ago, lautasdf said: That is a fine PC, the best of it's time. Graphics card is enough for ONI, 16GB of RAM is a lot even today. You might want to take a look at XMP, if your memory supports it, although it wasn't as stable as today standards back then (at least for me). there is issue with his time tho. by cpu benchmark he cpu is better than mine but he get 16 sec worse result than mine. not only that, i have a laptop soo i suspect there something wrong with his memory as that 1067 MHz is very odd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlyPunker Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Time: 1:55 (115 seconds) CPU: Ryzen 5800x Graphics Card: GTX 1070 8gb Ram: 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 4000 (PC4 32000) CAS: 16-19-19-39 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckybob77 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Time : 3:16 / 3:20 / 3:25 CPU : Dual Intel Xeon E5-2643 v2 (first xeon results?) Graphics card : Ati RX480 RAM : 128gb quad channel ddr3 CAS : 13/13/13/32 (@1866) For the record, I turned off ECC for this. HDD : nvme raid (the loading is WOEFULLY bottlenecked by its nature of being single core) I did some other testing. forcing the program to one cpu didn't have any appreciable effect. swapping from 4K to 1080, made no difference to the benchmark time. I even alt tabbed and was watching 4k video and the time came out the same. (the alarm sound was my que) I've alt tabbed between this and Civ-6 with no ill effect for a long time. Gotta love ADHD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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