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14 hours ago, Tuberi said:

Do you happen to have a DOCP setting? It's what Asus calls XMP in their bios. Could also just be that the laptop doesn't have that option and you would need to manually overclock the memory which is a bit more involved than just turning on XMP

No, I looked it up in the Alienware tech support. This particular model doesn't support XMP, apparently. Someone else had asked a similar question. It's only for my model, too, which is a bit frustrating. But I have no complaints. I love my machine... a lot. It's a beast for power, though. I think that is its only downfall.

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33 minutes ago, thehaunted318 said:

RAM frequency tells only half the story. The other part is timings. A RAM module with 3000 Mhz and CL 15 has a latency of 10 ns, a module with 3200 Mhz and CL 15 also has a latency of 10 ns, same 10ns for a 3600mhz and CL 18. They should roughly perform in the same area.

That is true on latency, but I think it's pretty evident in this thread that bandwidth (throughput) is a better indicator of performance.  There have been people that have tested ram frequency without changing CPU or cas latencies and have shown a notable improvement.  I don't discount your comment at all, but I think ONI is more interested in pure throughput than speed of first round trip.

 

It would be an interesting test, though!

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10 hours ago, Hoozy said:

I have 2 video cards so ran test on both. Also windowed vs fullscreen. Didn't make a huge difference.

Time : 2:20 (140 seconds) - (see more details after machine info)
CPU : AMD Ryzen 9 3900X @ 3.8Ghz
Graphics card : AMD Radeon RX 5700XT & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950
RAM : 64GB DDR4 3200Mhz

CAS : 16,19,19,38
HDD : Samsung 980 Pro 2TB

Detailed Speed Results
--------------------------------

AMD Radeon RX 5700XT
Windowed (How I usually run ONI): 
   3440x1440 144hz - 2:20 (140 seconds)
Fullscreen:
   1920x1080 144hz - 2:21 (141 seconds)
   1920x1080 60hz - 2:23 (143 seconds)
   3440x1440 144hz - 2:20 (140 seconds)

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950
Fullscreen:
   1920x1080 60hz - 2:16 (136 seconds)

This got me thinking, so I did more tests.

Memory & Overclocking Tests Using Ryzen Master for overclocking and speed adjustments:

    Memory Speed  
    3200 3600
CPU Default 2:20 2:15
Speed PBO 2:20 2:15
  Manual 3.9Ghz 2:25 2:22

CAS @ 3200 - 16,19,19,38
CAS @ 3600: 16,19,19,39

Default & Precision Boost Overdrive (PBO) will automatically boost cores. 3.9Ghz manually locked them all to one speed.

For me, memory speed makes more of a difference than anything else I can change.

 

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Hey FJ, late to the party, but i want to share my data. Keep on keeping on, greetings from germany and to the community!

 

Time : 02:29 or 149 sec
CPU : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHz   3.50 GHz
Graphics card : AMD Radeaon (TM) R9 390 Series
RAM : 16 GB (DDR4 2133MHz)

CAS* : 15/15/15/36
HDD : SanDisk SSD PLUS 1000GB

 

*corrected timings, added screenshot of HWiNFO:
image.thumb.png.216490de8f90f0d0f98520a5f0151e89.png
 

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CPU Clock, bandwidth and manual timings for the Ram are by far the most useful for Oni. 
Overclocking your ram with manual tight timings such as primary/secondairy and tertiary offer a lot of extra performance for Oni.
Equal to overclocking your CPU for me but it might be because i have kits that overclock very well. 
Also i tested 3733/3800/3866 cl16 tight manual timings against 3400/3466/3533cl14 and 3733cl16+ Gave me the most performance boost in Oni and a lot of other games.

 

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1 hour ago, Kerdeld said:

CPU Clock, bandwidth and manual timings for the Ram are by far the most useful for Oni. 
Overclocking your ram with manual tight timings such as primary/secondairy and tertiary offer a lot of extra performance for Oni.
Equal to overclocking your CPU for me but it might be because i have kits that overclock very well. 
Also i tested 3733/3800/3866 cl16 tight manual timings against 3400/3466/3533cl14 and 3733cl16+ Gave me the most performance boost in Oni and a lot of other games.

 

ok. what company memory you use?

also can you share your HWiNFO image

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Alienware M17 R2 Laptop from March 2020

Time : 02:41 or 161 sec with default Laptop Fanspeed 
Time : 02:34 or 154 sec with Max speed Laptop Fanspeed 
CPU :  Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9750H CPU @ 2.60GHz
Graphics card :
GPU0: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630 Shared GPU memory    0.5/7.9 GB
GPU1:NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 with Max-Q Design Dedicated GPU memory 2.7/8.0 GB
RAM : 16 GB (DDR4 2667 MHz)
CAS* : 19/19/19/43
HDD : PC SN730 NVMe WDC 512GB

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2 hours ago, Kerdeld said:

CPU Clock, bandwidth and manual timings for the Ram are by far the most useful for Oni. 
Overclocking your ram with manual tight timings such as primary/secondairy and tertiary offer a lot of extra performance for Oni.
Equal to overclocking your CPU for me but it might be because i have kits that overclock very well. 
Also i tested 3733/3800/3866 cl16 tight manual timings against 3400/3466/3533cl14 and 3733cl16+ Gave me the most performance boost in Oni and a lot of other games.

 

Has anyone, you maybe, been able to check how much of a difference does it make for oni to use 1Rx8 and 1Rx16 ram kits?
What i mean exactly is tested by linus  h e r e  but not for ONI specifically!

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HP Spectre X360 15"

TIME: 2:59:82

CPU: I7 10750H

GPU: GTX1650Ti

RAM: 2x8GB @3000MHz

CAS: 21/21/21

HDD: 512GB Intel NVMe 

 

13" MacBook Pro

TIME: 2:36:43

CPU: M1

GPU: 8core

RAM: 16GB

CAS: ?

HDD 512TB

 

Will do benchmark with the actual PC on weekend :-)

(5800X/3090/2x16 3400 CL14/Gen4 NVMe)

 

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Aaaaaand apparently I need to update my pc haha

Ran borderless window mode at 2650x1440. The load to 1:52 and used 8 GB of ram, which is half my system ram. Dang! CPU Hovered around 70-80% on all 4 cores with occasional spikes to 90+%

First Run without restarting
Time: 3:11 or 191 seconds
CPU: Intel i5-4670k @ Overclock of 4.2GHz all cores
GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Stock clocks
Ram: 4x4GB DDR3 1600 MHz
Cas: 9-9-9-27
HDD: SK hynix Gold S31 1TB 3D NAND 2.5in SATA SSD

Second Run without restarting
Time: 2:52 or 172 seconds

Third run after a restart and closing startup programs like discord and torrent clients. I shaved 10 seconds off the load time, down to 1:35
Time: 2:56 or 176 seconds

It appears having a restart doesn't really change the runtime of the benchmark for me.

 

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Lenovo Legion 5 Laptop, on second drive
Was a fresh restart, but I've got lots of crap running in background. Closed some of them.
3 screens active with ONI running in a window. Pretty sure it's CPU locked though.
Didn't turn on 'performance mode', which might have managed to

Time : 2:48.99 -> 169s
CPU : 4800H (AMD Ryzen 7 Mobile)
Graphics card : GTX 1660 Ti 6GB
RAM : 16GB 3200MHz (2x8GB)

CAS : 22/22/22/52
HDD : Crucial P5 1TB

 

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1 hour ago, tyraelpl said:

Has anyone, you maybe, been able to check how much of a difference does it make for oni to use 1Rx8 and 1Rx16 ram kits?
What i mean exactly is tested by linus  h e r e  but not for ONI specifically!

mostly allot as 1Rx16 seems slower

there is also some info in here

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Beware-of-the-single-rank-x16-RAM-kits-sneaked-in-some-laptop-models-The-1Rx16-modules-have-significantly-lower-bandwidth-compared-to-the-1Rx8-variants.548193.0.html

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Hey there everyone! I've actually done this before and made a Reddit post about it. I built this system with ONI and other simulations like X4 Foundations, Dwarf Fortress, Aorura4x, and others in mind. If anyone wants further details about my subtimings, voltages, etc just ask! Also I can do a capture came recording/livestream in order to prove the 103. I still have some headroom left on my ram, I could probably get sub 100s with daily safe and stable settings if I took a day or two to tune my ram subtimings. 

Time : 103
CPU : 10900kf@5.2ghz/4.9ghz core/ring and HT off
Graphics card : MSI Ventus LHR RTX 3060 ti
RAM : 2x16gb 4500mhz Dual Rank

CAS : 16-17-17-34
HDD : Adata SX8200 Pro 1tb

https://old.reddit.com/r/Oxygennotincluded/comments/hcdwpv/performance_testing_and_scaling_with_cycle_time/

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On 9/27/2021 at 5:18 PM, gabberworld said:

DDR4-2666 is default what intel supports for this cpu, after that is O.C. thing is not every motherboard may support that by bios. and ye he does need also faster memory modules as well

4333 mhz i read from motherboard spec what i found at selling

i feel like you can hit to the 100 sec with intel i9 11900k as you not use o.c like i understand

no my result are default bios seting just enable xmp.

I am not sure if overclocking the 11 gen for single core game will help because by itself  its gonna overclock up to 5.3 on a single core and if im lucky i could expect to overclock up to 5.0 all core so not worth it (i really suck at overclocking last time i try was at 4.1 single core on a i7 4770k)

ps im not sure about what im saying   

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4 minutes ago, Krunkkracker said:

Hey there everyone! I've actually done this before and made a Reddit post about it. I built this system with ONI and other simulations like X4 Foundations, Dwarf Fortress, Aorura4x, and others in mind. If anyone wants further details about my subtimings, voltages, etc just ask! Also I can do a capture came recording/livestream in order to prove the 103. I still have some headroom left on my ram, I could probably get sub 100s with daily safe and stable settings if I took a day or two to tune my ram subtimings. 

Time : 103
CPU : 10900kf@5.2ghz/4.9ghz core/ring and HT off
Graphics card : MSI Ventus LHR RTX 3060 ti
RAM : 2x16gb 4500mhz Dual Rank

CAS : 16-17-17-34
HDD : Adata SX8200 Pro 1tb

https://old.reddit.com/r/Oxygennotincluded/comments/hcdwpv/performance_testing_and_scaling_with_cycle_time/

4500mhz. yeah i expected that someone can even come closer to 100 sec

you have good pc. probaply can be even better with max memory speeds but not sure

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Time : 2:05 (125 seconds)
CPU : AMD Ryzen 9 5900X (SAM enabled + undervolted via PBO using this method and a value of -30)
Graphics card : XFX Radeon RX 6800 XT Speedster Merc 319
RAM : 2x32GB 3600mhz

CAS : 18/22/22/42
HDD : SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-2TB

I was hovering right at my CPU's thermal ceiling for the entire test, so the CPU was almost certainly throttled. Not unexpected as I'm using a small form-factor case with a single 120mm fan/rad. Looks like I'm not too far behind similar setups despite that.

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PC custom 8 months old

Time : 2:00 - 120sec
CPU : i7-10700F running@4.6Ghz HyperThreading on (55°C during test)
GC : MSI GTX1060
RAM : 2x8Go DDR4-3200 RipjawsV (XMP on)
CAS : 14-14-14-34
HDD : SSD 860EVO 250Go (Win10Pro64) + SSD 860EVO 1To (games) + hdd Samsung 2To
MB MSI Z490 GP

Time : 1:57 - 117sec
CPU : i7-10700F running@4.6Ghz HyperThreading off (55°C during test)
GC : MSI GTX1060
RAM : 2x8Go DDR4-3200 RipjawsV (XMP on)
CAS : 14-14-14-34
HDD : SSD 860EVO 250Go (Win10Pro64) + SSD 860EVO 1To (games) + hdd Samsung 2To
MB MSI Z490 GP

Sidenotes :
- i didn't have a lot of occasions to test with/without HT, thanks to this test i know i benefit a little from HT off, thanks FJ

- this save is very laggy compared to my current 4500 cycles game that have almost no lag or stutter, but i don't have 3000 pacus, and the two large planetoids (main and 2nd) are almost entirely filled with oxygen and/or clean water

- Max frequency of CPU 1core/4cores and RAM (and low CAS) is the key i guess

- my CPU is cooled by a Thermalright TrueSpirit 120 Direct A + BeQuiet PureWing2 : i consider silent even at full charge

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6 hours ago, PicaMula said:

I did restart my PC

Time : 226s
CPU : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz 
Graphics card : GTX 650 (ancient stuff)
RAM : 2x8 GB DDR3 1067 MHz

CAS : (info got from CPU-Z "Memory" tab)
Channel # Dual
DRAM Frequency 532.1 MHz
FSB:DRAM 1:4
CAS# Latency 7.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# Delay 7 clocks
RAS# Precharge 7 clocks
Cycle time 20 clocks

HDD :
Operating system: WDC WDS120G2G0A-00JH30 (120GB SSD)
Steam / ONI: WDC WD10EZEX-00BN5A0 (1TB HDD 7200 RPM)

[edit]

Damn my poor old machine against your supercomputers is saddening. I guess what's hurting me the most is my DDR3 RAM or my ancient graphics card. Very old version of i7 probably not helping either xD

That is a fine PC, the best of it's time. Graphics card is enough for ONI, 16GB of RAM is a lot even today. You might want to take a look at XMP, if your memory supports it, although it wasn't as stable as today standards back then (at least for me).

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30 minutes ago, lautasdf said:

That is a fine PC, the best of it's time. Graphics card is enough for ONI, 16GB of RAM is a lot even today. You might want to take a look at XMP, if your memory supports it, although it wasn't as stable as today standards back then (at least for me).

there is issue with his time tho. by cpu benchmark he cpu is better than mine but he get 16 sec worse result than mine. not only that, i have a laptop

soo i suspect there something wrong with his memory as that 1067 MHz is very odd

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Time :  3:16 / 3:20 / 3:25
CPU Dual Intel Xeon E5-2643 v2 (first xeon results?)
Graphics card : Ati RX480
RAM :  128gb quad channel ddr3

CAS :  13/13/13/32 (@1866)  For the record, I turned off ECC for this.  
HDD :  nvme raid (the loading is WOEFULLY bottlenecked by its nature of being single core)

I did some other testing.  forcing the program to one cpu didn't have any appreciable effect.   swapping from 4K to 1080, made no difference to the benchmark time.  I even alt tabbed and was watching 4k video and the time came out the same.  (the alarm sound was my que)  I've alt tabbed between this and Civ-6 with no ill effect for a long time.  Gotta love ADHD!

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