gabberworld Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 9 hours ago, nyonyonyo said: Time: 1:41 CPU: i7-13700KF @ somespeed (Win10) Graphics card: Nvidia 1660 Super RAM: 2x16GB Kingston Fury RGB 5600MHz CAS: 40-40-40 HDD: Intel M.2 - 256GB for OS, 1TB for Games All I can say is holeey fook. I just swapped out my i7-9700K to the above and I can see Yeah. In statistic shows like intel skipped the one serie cpu when they released the 12 and yes 13 is even better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpe12 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 On 12/9/2022 at 5:50 AM, nyonyonyo said: Time: 1:41 CPU: i7-13700KF @ somespeed (Win10) Graphics card: Nvidia 1660 Super RAM: 2x16GB Kingston Fury RGB 5600MHz CAS: 40-40-40 HDD: Intel M.2 - 256GB for OS, 1TB for Games All I can say is holeey fook. I just swapped out my i7-9700K to the above and I can see all the difference in performance on my massive base construct that was lagging on the 9700k... The only thing that bugs me is that loading a 50MB save still takes forever. :P Shouldn't the time be way closer to 1 minute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 17 hours ago, Alpe12 said: Shouldn't the time be way closer to 1 minute? 1.40 is limit for this specific test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyonyonyo Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 18 hours ago, gabberworld said: Yeah. In statistic shows like intel skipped the one serie cpu when they released the 12 and yes 13 is even better There is very little difference between the 12700KF and 13700KF. Like an extra second less. But big difference between 11 and 12. Also, peering down the GPU list it's like you have have a fancy GPU but it doesn't make jack. Look at all the GTX1050s(or equivalent) at the top of list... XD The downsize is that this thing eats 203W at max load. Fortunately running ONI only eats... <looks at HWmonitor> about 50 to 60W-ish. Saving causes a brief 80 to 100W spike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicsTimelines Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 Chip : Apple M1 Max Total Number of CPU Cores: 10 (8 performance and 2 efficiency) Total Number of GPU Cores: 24 RAM : 32 GB Type: LPDDR5 Manufacturer: Hynix HDD : SSD 512GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 On 12/16/2022 at 12:10 AM, NicsTimelines said: Chip : Apple M1 Max Total Number of CPU Cores: 10 (8 performance and 2 efficiency) Total Number of GPU Cores: 24 RAM : 32 GB Type: LPDDR5 Manufacturer: Hynix HDD : SSD 512GB only this makes me scream out loud LPDDR5. but hey its a Mac soo it's normal from them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farid_for Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 On 7/27/2022 at 4:23 PM, farid_for said: Time : 2:41 or 161 seconds CPU : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700HQ @ 2.60GHz Graphics card : GeForce GTX 970M RAM : 16 GB DDR4 2133 MHz CAS : 15,15,15,36 HDD : Samsung SDD 950 Pro 512GB So I bought a new PC! Time: 1:41 (101 seconds) CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 8-Core Processor 4.50 GHz GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6650 XT RAM : 32 GB DDR5 6000MHz CAS: 36 36 36 76 HDD: Samsung 980 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 15 hours ago, farid_for said: So I bought a new PC! Time: 1:41 (101 seconds) CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 8-Core Processor 4.50 GHz GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6650 XT RAM : 32 GB DDR5 6000MHz CAS: 36 36 36 76 HDD: Samsung 980 Pro nice, 1 min difference between your old hardware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babba Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Sorry, no benchmark - Some new ONI cpu feedback from me instead... There is a few similar cpu change posts from users in this thread. My cpu swap story: Coming from the 14nm i7 7700k > ~5nm ryzen 7600x my game speed has doubled and the ONI energy consumption is half, Ive got it running on 1 core with 5.5GHz ( 40 Watt ONI consumption ), the rest of the cpu is on holiday ( like with the previous cpu ). As usually ONI runs with pocket calculator graphic requirement. In general the cpu is nice for Anno1800, ONI, Cities Skylines, the upcoming KerbalSpace2 and of course to drive some fat gpu in the future. In Factorio I only really need the cpu with +100 artillery cannons,+ 50 trains +100 waggons or 200-1000 aliens attacking in the same moment. I need to get rid of my power wasting nvidia rog1060strix/6gb, the old outdated lithography is wasting energy. When I someday get a 4xxxx series I will put it for 1 hour on a 4K display and then back to a 2K display for gaming, I know myself ( for 2K the old 6GB card has always been great for me, never had a real reason to upgrade the gpu and I find the gpu market $$$$ broken since a few years ). Even editing 10 hour long 4K videos in Filmora with lots of effect layers is ok with the old rog1060strix. On the other hand, I always wanted to fully play the MS flight sim on 5 displays with a nv4xxx and max sim settings...Then everything will suck 1000 Watts and its sauna time ! IMHO the only reason to spend megabucks on a gpu for end-user consumer gaming nowadays is maximum pixel resolution on monster size displays, where the whole street sees that you just rebooted the system...and then getting on a 8K pony in RDR2 Going for a steam nap... System MIR Ngridia will get me at the end @.@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicsTimelines Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 On 12/18/2022 at 6:08 AM, gabberworld said: only this makes me scream out loud LPDDR5. but hey its a Mac soo it's normal from them Is there any downsides / tradeoffs of LPDDR5 compared to normal DDR5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicsTimelines Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 On 1/6/2023 at 1:57 PM, babba said: I need to get rid of my power wasting nvidia rog1060strix/6gb, the old outdated lithography is wasting energy. When I someday get a 4xxxx series... Wouldn't Nvidia's 4xxx series be even more power hungry than the 1060? I understand power efficiency wise, new chip is definitely better. But total power consumption wise, it would be more. Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babba Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 2 hours ago, NicsTimelines said: Wouldn't Nvidia's 4xxx series be even more power hungry than the 1060? I understand power efficiency wise, new chip is definitely better. But total power consumption wise, it would be more. Right? Hello my friend, I`m handing you a nice hot coffee You can limit the frame rate on a graphic card to a set defined value If one likes, then one can also undervolt cpus or graphic cards to consume less power. Another way to consume less power is to play in lower resolutions and/or lower graphic settings. If one would choose a 20-30GB gpu, then of course the memory will also suck a lot of electricity. In ONI my old gtx 1060/6gb gpu is calculating at around 15-20% load with a heavy built up save game. The save takes 5 minutes to load on ryzen 7600x/ddr5 5200/32gb/ssd, playing on 1 core @5.5GHz In Cities Skylines the card is already a bottleneck for me, running with 100% processing with 8 fully built up city tiles ( i consider that early in game ). With low graphic settings I can run 16 instances of EvE Online, then the card is at its processing limit. My old card can just about run World of Warships with maximum settings at 2K. Im also at the gpu processing limit in Anno1800 with max settings and all explored and fully built up islands. I am also interested in a rtx4070 for faster video coding, in the last 2 years the terrible pricing and duopoly of nvidia and amd has held me from a gpu purchase + I am not rich anymore Small pockets... My rog1060 is sooooo old, that a generation jump to the 4xxx series will be worth it for me. Now, to answer your question ( took me a while ! ), my rog1060gtx/6gb sucks practically 140 Watts on maximum everything. The internet says the 4070ti takes 280 Watts. One can probably configure the card to practically suck 140 Watts in games, but I probably will let it drain 300 Watt for the eye candy However, my personal max budget goal is 500 Watts for the total system ( without displays ). The AM5 mainboards are hefty, mine has 1 kilo metal on it to passive cool the capacitors. Got a demo board deal for $100, instead of $250. Its a crazy industry trend of everything sucking maximum energy, for the last % speed increases. All a bit nuts really. I can recommend getting the ryzen 5/7600x for am5, it is power efficient and in a few years I will take it out and put the latest cpu maximum in to the board. Want nv4xxx, but with A380/747 in MS Flightsim Ive got the full metal Hotass Warthog Controls + several Thrustmaster Cougar Packs locked away since a decade, also got an IR headtracker and up to 5 displays. I just need the gpu now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babba Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 @NicsTimelines BTW I here have personal cpu change wattage comparison values, where only the cpu, the board ( intel to amd ) and the ram has been changed ( ddr4 2133 to ddr5 5200 ). Any other software setting has remained untouched, with the board swap, and is exactly the same as before. The cpus have not been throttled or limited in any way. World of Warships - cpu single core game: i7 7700k my total system power = ~300 Watts ( the old cpu ) Ryzen 7600x my total system power = ~230 Watts ( the new, great cpu ) In general one can say that games run much more energy efficient with the new cpu, it is really nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 On 1/7/2023 at 9:54 PM, NicsTimelines said: Is there any downsides / tradeoffs of LPDDR5 compared to normal DDR5? yeah, you can't change that for better one as they are stuck in straight to motherboard, also you cant upgrade those for higher like 64gib if needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemthazul Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Test 1: Time : 2:19.92 CPU : Processor 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-1135G7 @ 2.40ghz Graphics card : NVIDIA GeForce MX330 RAM : 8 GB @ 3200mhz Am using an ASUS X515 laptop if that helps, there was a bit of a stuttering when I moved the camera for a bit during the test so that might'ved added a couple seconds, so I did the test again. Also low texture settings enabled on both tests. Test 2: Time : 2:16.33 CPU : Processor 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-1135G7 @ 2.40ghz Graphics card : NVIDIA GeForce MX330 RAM : 8 GB @ 3200mhz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altius Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 Does someone still have a copy of the save game file (it's expired now in the original post)? Thx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 1 hour ago, altius said: Does someone still have a copy of the save game file (it's expired now in the original post)? Thx. are you sure it's expired? i just downloaded that for make sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altius Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 1 minute ago, gabberworld said: are you sure it's expired? i just downloaded that for make sure You're right, I'm able to download it now. Not sure what happened earlier. Thx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaeden Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Time : 1:42 or 102 seconds CPU : AMD Ryzen 7950X3D Graphics card : RTX 3080Ti RAM : 32 GB DDR5 6000 MHz CAS : 30,38,38,96 HDD : WD Black 2TB SN850X NVME I think we need a new save game benchmark that is a bit more stressful, I believe we are running into the limit and the high end cpu's can't be separated as easily with this current benchmark save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOLO KNIGHT Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 I assume M1 Macs are emulating x86 (or however you would phrase that)? A native M1 version of ONI would be neat but probably not practical to develop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinhPham Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 On 3/9/2023 at 2:13 PM, Shaeden said: Time : 1:42 or 102 seconds CPU : AMD Ryzen 7950X3D Graphics card : RTX 3080Ti RAM : 32 GB DDR5 6000 MHz CAS : 30,38,38,96 HDD : WD Black 2TB SN850X NVME I think we need a new save game benchmark that is a bit more stressful, I believe we are running into the limit and the high end cpu's can't be separated as easily with this current benchmark save. It took 100 seconds to simulate 300 seconds game time at X3 speed. So ... 102s is almost the perfect score. This is one of my abandon colony long long time ago, can you give it a try ? Still not fully built the entire map but my potato is already struggle running it. MoonBase Bench.sav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orzelek Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 20 hours ago, MinhPham said: It took 100 seconds to simulate 300 seconds game time at X3 speed. So ... 102s is almost the perfect score. This is one of my abandon colony long long time ago, can you give it a try ? Still not fully built the entire map but my potato is already struggle running it. MoonBase Bench.sav 19.99 MB · 1 download This is a neat big base. And it also works decently on my system which is sligtly worse then MinhPham: Time : 1:47 or 107 seconds CPU : AMD Ryzen 7900X3D Graphics card : Radeon 7900XTX RAM : 32 GB DDR5 6000 MHz CAS : 32,38,38,80 It's a bit strange tbh because game runs at 20 fps but timer would show that it runs at almost full 3x speed. That might be by design with rendering skipping a bit to let sim have it's time. I have also noticed few very visible stutters but I think similar stutters happened in OP's test base also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuxii Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 6 hours ago, Orzelek said: This is a neat big base. And it also works decently on my system which is sligtly worse then MinhPham: Time : 1:47 or 107 seconds CPU : AMD Ryzen 7900X3D Graphics card : Radeon 7900XTX RAM : 32 GB DDR5 6000 MHz CAS : 32,38,38,80 It's a bit strange tbh because game runs at 20 fps but timer would show that it runs at almost full 3x speed. That might be by design with rendering skipping a bit to let sim have it's time. I have also noticed few very visible stutters but I think similar stutters happened in OP's test base also. I heard you are looking for a crazier save game file to test with... Here is a massive 134MB 6200 cycle save. Give it ten minutes to load. I am not kidding. Good luck. hh6197.sav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orzelek Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 21 minutes ago, tuxii said: I heard you are looking for a crazier save game file to test with... Here is a massive 134MB 6200 cycle save. Give it ten minutes to load. I am not kidding. Good luck. hh6197.sav Hmm I admit it's aptly named. Thats a lot of frozen petroleum. I was affraid it will eat up lots of memory (factorio save of that size would) but it didn't. And it gets cpu pretty toasty on loading (up to 77 C) but takes about 1:20 which is not that bad. And I think once it's done loading it seems to run better then Moon base one since it nets about 25-27 fps at 3x. And also has the strange stutters every while that make whole game freeze for a second or so. Thanks for good material to test investing into the CPU geared for this kind of games it seems that it can run waay more then I'd ever build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaeden Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Moonbase save Time : 1:44 or 104 seconds CPU : AMD Ryzen 7950X3D Graphics card : RTX 3080Ti RAM : 32 GB DDR5 6000 MHz CAS : 30,38,38,96 HDD : WD Black 2TB SN850X NVME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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