Machine Reaper 2401 Report post Posted January 28 10 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: Not addressing bugs and patches for existing content before moving on to their next money making endeavor, You know basically ALL the stuff that makes me leave other games. this is what they have EXACTLY done with HAM and DS as a whole, left it to rot and then come out and say they did it for *funsies* hope your reading this @JoeW 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marfoo 222 Report post Posted January 28 14 hours ago, Machine Reaper said: commie spotted Excuse you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Machine Reaper 2401 Report post Posted January 28 34 minutes ago, Marfoo said: Excuse you? keep serving Mother Klei commie scum! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marfoo 222 Report post Posted January 28 No wait, hold on Me, a commie? Nah fam, screw this. This topic has more cancer than entirety of CS:GO 1 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chesmu 212 Report post Posted January 28 (edited) Klei, how could you? do you remember our days back then? Now you are cheating on me with this... Lol, you are being Very dramatic here folks, I was feeling the same way when I read this firsthand, but kept my finger energy for myself a moment, thought about it, and realized I don't even know why I'm mad! The game is still there, Klei is still here, Moon is still there, but Developers have a lot of money now; I don't see how that hurts anyone. Edited January 28 by Chesmu Probably it not being posted. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Machine Reaper 2401 Report post Posted January 28 10 minutes ago, Marfoo said: No wait, hold on Me, a commie? Nah fam, screw this. This topic has more cancer than entirety of CS:GO what are you still doing here? waiting for bread? 4 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
minespatch 84296 Report post Posted January 28 Machine, cool it. Name calling is against community standards. It's not a pro-tencent thing, it's a politeness thing. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Machine Reaper 2401 Report post Posted January 28 1 minute ago, minespatch said: Machine, cool it. Name calling is against community standards. It's not a pro-tencent thing, it's a politeness thing. when did you become my boss? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
minespatch 84296 Report post Posted January 28 1 minute ago, Machine Reaper said: when did you become my boss? I'm warning you before Joe closes this thread. I'm no mod, just trying to save you grief before things get worse, sorry. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Machine Reaper 2401 Report post Posted January 28 1 minute ago, minespatch said: community standards. community standards, wow, heard that one before, probably from a dev 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
minespatch 84296 Report post Posted January 28 1 minute ago, Machine Reaper said: community standards, wow, heard that one before, probably from a dev Quote Have fun! Be respectful. Don’t be a jerk. Stay on topic.If violations of our Community Standards Policy are brought to our attention, we will investigate them on a case by case basis. The level of action taken against accounts found in violation of this policy will be at the sole discretion of Klei Entertainment staff and based on the severity of the occurrence, as well as history of the account(s) in question.Failure to comply with community standards policies will make us very sad on the inside, but also may result in the suspension or termination of various game privileges up to or including the closure of the game account(s) in question. Read onward to prevent us from being stricken with deep sadness and getting your account smacked with a ban hammer. I don't enforce the rules and I'm not a mod, I'm just trying to cool things down before a mod comes in. Sorry. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Machine Reaper 2401 Report post Posted January 28 this entire thread perfectly shows who is heard here or not and believe me. the suckers and fan bois are gonna keep defending Klei if even they decide to put Pay2Win mechanics in the game. 1 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
minespatch 84296 Report post Posted January 28 1 minute ago, Machine Reaper said: fan bois are gonna keep defending Klei Defending you so you don't get banned is not defending Klei... 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marfoo 222 Report post Posted January 28 Let's be honest, Machine is angery because Klei got bought 4 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chesmu 212 Report post Posted January 28 1 minute ago, Marfoo said: Let's be honest, Machine is angery because Klei got bought Now this is not cool, if he is warned to chill, we should too. Let's be realistic about what actually happened by this announcement shall we? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Machine Reaper 2401 Report post Posted January 28 2 minutes ago, Marfoo said: Let's be honest, Machine is angery because Klei got bought got bought... it hurts bad, when one of your idol companies sell themselves out.... I became a game dev cause of Klei and their games. this is indeed forcing me to make my own game similar to DS. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chesmu 212 Report post Posted January 28 Just now, Machine Reaper said: got bought... it hurts bad, when one of your idol companies sell themselves out.... I became a game dev cause of Klei and their games. What exactly "Sell Themselves Out" means? can you explain it further? This term is usually used in very different context and time! Klei sold stakes of the company, not themselves, which is a business deal. I'm sure if your game gets a bit more reputation, anytime soon a lot of companies will offer you deals, if you don't accept what is best for you, well, you will not progress. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marfoo 222 Report post Posted January 28 3 minutes ago, Machine Reaper said: got bought... it hurts bad, when one of your idol companies sell themselves out.... I became a game dev cause of Klei and their games. Klei got bought, but atleast not shut down 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Machine Reaper 2401 Report post Posted January 28 Just now, Marfoo said: Klei got bought, but atleast not shut down I've seen this thing happen 3 times before with other companies, the result was butchering of the corpse of a good game franchise and turning it into a meat puppet that dances for small change. lets see how long Klei holds out before their new masters tell them to bend to their rules. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
minespatch 84296 Report post Posted January 28 14 minutes ago, Machine Reaper said: ets see how long Klei holds out before their new masters tell them to bend to their rules. I hope the devs replay Invisible inc and maybe take a lesson from it. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Machine Reaper 2401 Report post Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Chesmu said: What exactly "Sell Themselves Out" means? can you explain it further? This term is usually used in very different context and time! Klei sold stakes of the company, not themselves, which is a business deal. Klei devs said major shares but wiki says otherwise and also shows a major shares company above showing clear difference. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tencent 1 hour ago, Chesmu said: I'm sure if your game gets a bit more reputation, anytime soon a lot of companies will offer you deals, if you don't accept what is best for you, well, you will not progress. actually I won't be doing the same mistakes Klei did to end up like this. after all I am learning from them and trying to avoid what got them to this point. every company cannot always end up having to bend to a mega corporate culture and instead keep their own thing going as much as they want unless they want to make more money which will always involve making shady dealings. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YesterdaysLemon 74 Report post Posted January 28 (edited) 2 hours ago, Machine Reaper said: Klei devs said major shares but wiki says otherwise and also shows a major shares company above showing clear difference. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tencent actually I won't be doing the same mistakes Klei did to end up like this. after all I am learning from them and trying to avoid what got them to this point. every company cannot always end up having to bend to a mega corporate culture and instead keep their own thing going as much as they want unless they want to make more money which will always involve making shady dealings. It is understandable why you are upset, I also do not like this change, but you have got to remember that making and maintaining video games is expensive. As an independent game company, Klei was always in need of cash, why do you think they make Griftlands and Epic Games store exclusive? I hope that your career goes well but I highly doubt you will always have a big budget on hand to maintain your games, Klei did a good business move, not ethical, it ensures them that they always have a steady influx of cash coming in from their parent company now, only time will tell on how drastic of an impact this will leave. Edited January 28 by YesterdaysLemon Messed up formating 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Plum Gate 716 Report post Posted January 28 (edited) @JoeW, @Bigfoot - is it just me, or is there a 50¢ army running amok on this thread? Edited January 28 by The Plum Gate 4 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GenomeSquirrel 1061 Report post Posted January 28 45 minutes ago, YesterdaysLemon said: Klei did a good business move, not ethical, it ensures them that they always have a steady influx of cash coming in from their parent company now, only time will tell on how drastic of an impact this will leave. Stock owners do not supply a steady info of cash, they give a one time payment once purchasing the stock. It’s Klei that would be giving 51% of their stock distributions to Tencent. You wouldn’t buy stocks of McDonalds for the opportunity to pay a portion of their bills. If a part of Klei is operating at a loss, they are going to change or eliminate the business line. Money has to come from consumers to be sustainable in the long term. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Machine Reaper 2401 Report post Posted January 28 1 hour ago, The Plum Gate said: @JoeW, @Bigfoot - is it just me, or is there a 50¢ army running amok on this thread? your mentioning this to the Generals of the army at the moment. 4 minutes ago, GenomeSquirrel said: Stock owners do not supply a steady info of cash, they give a one time payment once purchasing the stock. It’s Klei that would be giving 51% of their stock distributions to Tencent. You wouldn’t buy stocks of McDonalds for the opportunity to pay a portion of their bills. If a part of Klei is operating at a loss, they are going to change or eliminate the business line. Money has to come from consumers to be sustainable in the long term. thus the need for a Mobile Don't Stare game for the Chinese market under Tencent publishing. if that game won't make the money Tencent requires of Klei to do so then changes will be made by Klei to their...ahem...Creative direction to better suite Tencent's demands. well that's what EA does but lets see if Tencent will do the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
