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Farlan    205
2 hours ago, Pindeh said:

I think we can all agree that, if this goes downhill, we should pressure Klei to leave Tencent. Sure, they're a business, but they still listen the fans despite some dubious choices. 

Klei is a business trying to earn money, the community can complain and whine all they want, but I don't think much can be done, unfortunately. 

We'd just be clowns, honking our sad little clown noses, at a brick wall. 

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DST_LSJ    1395
1 hour ago, 4 Da LOLs said:

ok then why don't you look inwards and look why we are not okay with our money being sent to helping genocide?

Do you think genocide is good and justified? I genuinely want to know.

 

1 hour ago, 4 Da LOLs said:

also you have still not addressed my previous rebuttal

I did not intend to change your opinion about that pay for money to Tencent means sent to helping genocide. This view of yours only comes from politically inclined media and subjective assumptions. This is a prejudice.

You are talking about genocide as a disaster on the Indian land that was occupied hundreds of years ago. Europeans in the early 20th century had prejudices against Jews. With the help of most Europeans, the Nazis sent the Jews into concentration camps. Europeans at that time generally supported the genocide of Jews. In this case, the Chinese took in Jews as partners in northern China. Now you firmly believe that the Chinese government is carrying out genocide.

Sorry, I only communicate with honest people. Now You don't need to reply to me again.

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Mantas    1091

Honestly, I won't be able to believe in Klei as much as before if it will be about Tencent cause, clearly, it's coming from Tencent's mouth rather than theirs.

I hate to say it, but, I still wanna keep my respect to Klei for their work, even if this deal they did really questions the ethics of it all. Besides that, I'm not sure if they were pressured after seeing a DS mobile game copy being made to think that it might steal their Chinese players, but I doubt in this thought since there's a lotta DST players from there too.

The idea of WHY they did this is what really boggles me, I don't know what was their position but I thought they were at a comfortable spot where they were. But maybe they're trying to expand and the lack of resources and risky ideas might frighten to them, like relaunch gorge or forge, so they might have a more permanent solution if they work with Tencent.

Still, this is a big question for the community on Klei's morale of their business. We've seen them so far being, assumingly, honest to us as a community, but we still gotta keep in fact that they are a business, and they'll do in their best interest to get out there into the world and start expanding.

I can assume that DST might get much bigger as a game and community if this transfer of power, or just investment, works out well for them and us. Maybe we'll be able to have more gamemodes or worlds, a lot of more content to the game in general. Well, we can only hope that's the case, otherwise if not - why do we need to care about any of that besides feeling concerned for ourselves, our wallets and Klei's future of how'll we view them from now on?

If of all things, I would rather want to know what made this choice they did thinking we'll view this positively in any way, shape or form? Yea yea, I get the whole thing about finances... but, Klei, are you saying that you're actually struggling with the finances of hiring employees or that your workers? I wanna say I doubt it, since you've said you've given away millions to charities, but it feels a bit bull crap in some ways. As I said, if you're doing this to expand your company to get bigger, then I can understand that much, and so you've should have stated that without me putting my words here in text.

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Handsome_Jack    232

Tencent is trash. So sad  i expected this after they did very anticonsumer making a game exclusive to the very poopoo epic games store so this was to be expecting of them.

 

return of the tencent update is now complete very sad sad sad sad sad

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OmeletteBoy    73
30 minutes ago, DST_LSJ said:

 

I did not intend to change your opinion about that pay for money to Tencent means sent to helping genocide. This view of yours only comes from politically inclined media and subjective assumptions. This is a prejudice.

You are talking about genocide as a disaster on the Indian land that was occupied hundreds of years ago. Europeans in the early 20th century had prejudices against Jews. With the help of most Europeans, the Nazis sent the Jews into concentration camps. Europeans at that time generally supported the genocide of Jews. In this case, the Chinese took in Jews as partners in northern China. Now you firmly believe that the Chinese government is carrying out genocide.

Sorry, I only communicate with honest people. Now You don't need to reply to me again.

I don't know in what world you live in but those things happened years ago, and even though they were terrible, most people changed and dealt with this stuff, but in the other hand there's the CCP who continues to make this horrible acts, taking money from their chinese corporations and using it to fund genocides that still happen to this day. If you still don't believe me just look for it, there are news of genocides that happened only a few months ago and are likely to happen again.

I don't know about you but i don't find funding genocides as something ok.

 

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BaloneyOs    471
31 minutes ago, Mantas said:

If of all things, I would rather want to know what made this choice they did thinking we'll view this positively in any way, shape or form? Yea yea, I get the whole thing about finances... but, Klei, are you saying that you're actually struggling with the finances of hiring employees or that your workers? I wanna say I doubt it, since you've said you've given away millions to charities, but it feels a bit bull crap in some ways. As I said, if you're doing this to expand your company to get bigger, then I can understand that much, and so you've should have stated that without me putting my words here in text.

How about greed?

 

1 minute ago, ADM said:

Well thank you good sir but I believe we know our history books quite good and I cannot help but tell you that you can't rewrite history however tragic it was. Also I'd recommand you to pay attention to the said media before the assumptions turn into history in a few years.

 

3 minutes ago, OmeletteBoy said:

I don't know in what world you live in but those things happened years ago, and even though they were terrible, most people changed and dealt with this stuff, but in the other hand there's the CCP who continues to make this horrible acts, taking money from their chinese corporations and using it to fund genocides that still happen to this day. If you still don't believe me just look for it, there are news of genocides that happened only a few months ago and are likely to happen again.

I don't know about you but i don't find funding genocides as something ok.

Dude thinks we can't see his overwhelming bias or his strawman. Either he doesn't get it or can't afford to admit without getting into trouble so we should probably give up, because he's repeated the same point ad nauseam without any new counterpoints.

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Mantas    1091
1 minute ago, BaloneyOs said:

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We can blame them for greed as much as we want, but it's hard to tell since they never seem that greedy in the first place.

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BaloneyOs    471
4 minutes ago, Mantas said:

We can blame them for greed as much as we want, but it's hard to tell since they never seem that greedy in the first place.

I have that impression of them as well, as their games have always been very reasonably priced for their outstanding quality with generous seasonal discounts as the cherry on top. Just saying that greed is probably the next best explanation after impending bankrupcy.

Things can change and money is obviously a huge catalyst.

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chirsg    541

I don't want to sleuth through the forums, so in short or quotes or tl;dr, why didn't klei go public?

I would have probably bought shares regularly 

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4 Da LOLs    3737

I know its a little late. can we remove the prejudice of the past and start anew?

I wish we could just start asking good faith questions rather then attacking each other so we can better understand each other?

14 hours ago, DST_LSJ said:

Sorry, I only communicate with honest people. Now You don't need to reply to me again.

I am interested in what you think in order to better my understanding. I hope to put aside this bad foot forward and have a genuine good faith chat we could even do it in PMs if you desire.

I hope we can get some actual headway in understanding what each of us think I am going to ask earnest questions about your beliefs so I can better understand why rather then refute or try to disprove, is that okay with you?

14 hours ago, DST_LSJ said:

You are talking about genocide as a disaster on the Indian land that was occupied hundreds of years ago. Europeans in the early 20th century had prejudices against Jews. With the help of most Europeans, the Nazis sent the Jews into concentration camps. Europeans at that time generally supported the genocide of Jews.

yeah genocide is morally wrong we agree so this is common ground for us to work off of.

 

14 hours ago, DST_LSJ said:

the Chinese took in Jews as partners in northern China. Now you firmly believe that the Chinese government is carrying out genocide.

you thought I was talking about Jewish people being victims of genocide in China?

not to be rude but that is what this looks to be saying so I ask politely for further elaboration into this point so I can completely understand what you mean.

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Fi7iP    212
9 minutes ago, Codedependent said:

No matter what a new majority owner says at the outset, they can vote to change those terms at any time... and guess what... they have a majority and will win that vote. This is so ******* sad.

That's the problem, since they own more then 50% they are the owners of Klei and that's bad :/

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