Zepp 42 Report post Posted January 21 (edited) Just like Myth Words theme: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1991746508 Myth Words character: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1699194522 Mod content is completely free, you can buy our original character's skins through online shop to sponsor us. I've noticed that the mod skins has been sold online more than 200. So can I make a profit like this mod? @JoeW Edited January 21 by Zepp 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
minespatch 83263 Report post Posted January 21 Something doesn't seem right. I'd recommend a dev and mod to put their two cents into this. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gaymime 5029 Report post Posted January 21 (edited) legally that could be very problematic since you are using klei's engine and klei's code and did not enter into a formal contract with them Edited January 21 by gaymime 11 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zepp 42 Report post Posted January 21 Quote Modders may make donation links available - however no incentives, functionality or services may be offered in exchange for donations. Quoting Joew's topic Oxygen Not Included Modding Guidelines I don't think it's right to make money like my topic. 9 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EirikGerhard 87 Report post Posted January 21 You should check the most updated official Klei modding guidelines. I found these two links (one more updated than the other) https://support.klei.com/hc/en-us/articles/360041355171-Modding-Guidelines https://support.klei.com/hc/en-us/articles/360029556052-Modding-Guidelines A clarification over monetisation in the modding guidelines would be very welcome. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hornete 7419 Report post Posted January 21 (edited) dont do it. it seems like a real messy idea. Edited January 21 by Hornete 8 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zepp 42 Report post Posted January 21 Just now, the mod released the new skin of the character, which costs 15 RMB. You can scan the QR code in the game to buy his original character skin. What will Klei do about this situation? @JoeW Myth Words character_New Skin.mp4 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArubaroBeefalo 7860 Report post Posted January 21 I dont think this is legal. I wont let people sell stuff for my game that will prevent that same people to buy my skins (because i suppose all the people will not buy both) Unless i get my % part of it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slagger 1964 Report post Posted January 21 (edited) I want to ask a question too. Is that legal to making request mods for people by getting pay? I mean x person wants to add cucumber to the game and I will make it for him then I will share on workshop to everyone. Then he will pay me money that we talk about. Is this fine? Developers don't care about it in other games, I wonder how it works on Klei standards. Edited January 21 by Slagger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EirikGerhard 87 Report post Posted January 21 50 minutes ago, Slagger said: Is that legal to making request mods for people by getting pay? I mean x person wants to add cucumber to the game and I will make it for him then I will share on workshop to everyone. Then he will pay me money that we talk about. Is this fine? I would say that this is what is normally called "hiring a programmer," so it should be ok IMO. Do make sure to sort out beforehand who owns the rights to the content developed in the mod, otherwise, it can turn ugly if disputes arise. It should be clearly agreed who has rights to publish the mod on the workshop. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hornete 7419 Report post Posted January 21 59 minutes ago, Slagger said: I want to ask a question too. Is that legal to making request mods for people by getting pay? I mean x person wants to add cucumber to the game and I will make it for him then I will share on workshop to everyone. Then he will pay me money that we talk about. Is this fine? Developers don't care about it in other games, I wonder how it works on Klei standards. No. this is just commissioning someone. I've been commissioned and have commissioned others to make mods. I have had bad experiences of course  but every commissioner has bad experiences.  1 hour ago, Zepp said:  Myth Words character_New Skin.mp4 I think you should just leave it, and see what Klei wiill/might do. I don't think its any of our business to care really, unless theres some really shady/scammy stuff going on. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KakashoLin 16 Report post Posted January 21 9 hours ago, Zepp said: Just like Myth Words theme: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1991746508 Myth Words character: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1699194522 Mod content is completely free, you can buy our original character's skins through online shop to sponsor us. I've noticed that the mod skins has been sold online more than 200. So can I make a profit like this mod? @JoeW Based on their own policy, this would be against their guidelines and would not be allowed. https://support.klei.com/hc/en-us/articles/360029880791-Player-Creation-Guidelines  "COMMERCIAL THINGSCommercial use is when you make money for your player creation. Commercial use of Player Creations is not allowed (except for the specific situations listed below). HAND-MADE PRODUCTS, YOUTUBE VIDEO MONETIZATION." 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lumberlocke 1380 Report post Posted January 21 This all just seems really suspicious to me. I certainly wouldn't want "monetized mods" as part of my future portfolio. 8 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skorne 333 Report post Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Slagger said: I want to ask a question too. Is that legal to making request mods for people by getting pay? I mean x person wants to add cucumber to the game and I will make it for him then I will share on workshop to everyone. Then he will pay me money that we talk about. Is this fine? Developers don't care about it in other games, I wonder how it works on Klei standards. There are developers who care about it in some games, so not really any point making such a blank statement. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krtoween 216 Report post Posted January 21 I really love myth worlds and the work they are putting into this, I think Klei is also aware that this is happening and while it's not legal and not with their guidelines I think Klei is just so generous and loves the modders and people invested in this game so they may not pay attention to this for this reason. I think they know most people are not going to abuse mods to gain money. What these creators are doing is wrong but maybe cause they are from a different country they can't set up a donation platform or they think it's not something that will bring them any donations. I think that's a little amount they are charging for the skins and not really hindering what Klei is making and will continue to make from their own skins for the characters in game so it's maybe why they have not shut them down. Or they got a warning already from them who knows. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penguin0616 891 Report post Posted January 21 (edited) I should mention that the Myth mods also send some of your info off to their server without your consent. Edited January 21 by penguin0616 5 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hornete 7419 Report post Posted January 21 10 minutes ago, penguin0616 said: I should mention that the Myth mods also send some of your info off to their server without your consent. Yikes, what kind of info? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarlZalph 4745 Report post Posted January 21 13 hours ago, Zepp said: Myth Words character: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1699194522 mod_publish_data_file.zip/skin.lua is an obfuscated file as well. Not only is the mod itself breaking the guidelines but they're hiding what it is they're doing from a normal person to inspect it to make sure they're not doing anything malicious. I don't care for obfuscations much, so I'm currently deobfuscating it. Almost done, all things considered.  Just now, Hornete said: Yikes, what kind of info? The mod uses IP 62.234.133.241 to host their content on, a Tencent owned cloud computing network. They use Alipay services to handle the payment. The data payloads they send are cyclic hashed versions of you and everyone else's on the server's klei IDs. Who knows what's stored when Alipay is used. 6 5 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penguin0616 891 Report post Posted January 21 (edited) Here's a link to the deobfuscated if you want it @Hornete Spoiler https://pastebin.com/U7LtMY45 Â Edited January 21 by penguin0616 2 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarlZalph 4745 Report post Posted January 21 17 minutes ago, penguin0616 said: Here's a link to the deobfuscated if you want it @Hornete  Reveal hidden contents https://pastebin.com/U7LtMY45  Here's mine before I stopped. We had the same idea, you and I. Spoiler https://pastebin.com/X7nhHUPV  1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penguin0616 891 Report post Posted January 21 (edited) @CarlZalph I think we deobfuscated different scripts, as the one I did doesn't have payment. I take it that one is skin.lua? Which one did I deobfuscate? I can't remember! Spoiler Also, my goodness, you cleaned up the variable names as well. All I did was format and escape. I surrender, my deobfuscation is no match for yours.  Edited January 21 by penguin0616 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auth 10044 Report post Posted January 22 Isn't this the mod that tried to initially charge people for getting it in the first place, as an unofficial (but still needing to be bought) DLC? And they're trying this again? 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TemporarySolutn 850 Report post Posted January 22 I would until they told you to stop, if I did I'd probably also like buy DLC or something and give it away so they atleast get some of the money you earn from it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seero 1143 Report post Posted January 22 (edited) Just work on you coding SKILLS* and get money in the coding industry, this is like basing near beefalo levels of trying to make money Edited January 22 by Seero 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grim the 417 Report post Posted January 22 38 minutes ago, Seero said: Just work on you coding schools and get money in the coding industry, this is like basing near beefalo levels of trying to make money I agree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
