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Klei adding more characters instead of finishing the refreshs

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Nikolaso    28
On 4/26/2020 at 3:25 PM, robot-sensei said:

They are adding more and more characters and at this point they started to lose originalty for example wurt is just and existing mob made cuter ,

they should finish the reworks and contine uptating the actual game , I feel like the whole rutern of them uptates are weak compared to the new reign stuff , quality started dropping since they added fuelweaver and while some uptates like moon island is good there is not much to do unlike mines , sea isnt very fun to explore since there isnt much to see and the new bosses are pretty boring with bad drops

I dont know if this will contine like this but I think they should stop with new characters and skins at least , especially skin , they bring nothing to table and most of the time you cant see them beacuse you are wearing armor or backpack

I'm sure they are continuing on the refreshes, at least what I've seen many have already come out but I'm only scared that they'll refresh a character too much, mostly nerfing, but not likely. It's true, the new bosses have bad drops, and toadstool, which has been in the came for a few long years, still doesn't have better drops. But the new bosses' drops might change because as is said, the sea isn't ready. Though it's better to be delayed than rushed. 

Skins should stay, I've always liked them and liked collecting them because they drop normally, daily and weekly ones. I always notice what skins others use despite their armors. 

 

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Pikapikap    664

I don't know what you want to express,but skins and new characters are part of this game that makes it more interesting. I like them.I think some people seem to feel that Klei has to do whatever they want,earlier there was a post thanking klei,I think some people should take a good look,I love dst. I thank klei for bringing me such a great game . So the little support I can do is to buy skins and new characters,do you mean I can't do this to support klei? I also recommend this game to others around me who haven't contacted dst,This is the little thing I can do.In the forum,Some people are too greedy and have some unconstructive suggestion.

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Mike23Ua    5586
7 minutes ago, Shosuko said:

ppl keep saying bosses have bad drops and idk what you mean.  Toadstool gives you amazing light sources, fuel weaver gives you bone helm and plate, malbatross gives you blue sails, crab king gives you trident.  What is bad about any of these?

Like srsly - wtf do you WANT from a boss loot?

Honestly? All that stuff seems pretty pointless to me- it’s stuff you don’t really NEED (especially on Xbox where our worlds are smaller & the seasons can’t have RNG applied to them, so Deerclops always arrives on X day of Winter for example..)

what I would LIKE for bosses to drop are parts to a some larger Contraption- Similar to the Wooden Thing found in DS Solo.

Diving Rod,

Wooden Box Thing,

Wooden Ring Thing,

Wooden Crank Thing, 

Metal Potato Thing,

Once all of these are gathered and taken to a specific location & Built you can then progress into the next Chapter of Adventures Mode.

And that’s what DST is currently missing, an Adventures Mode.. But with unanswered questions like Who is Them? Why are they Returning? Why has Charlie turned her attention towards machinations in the sky??

Surely at some point DST HAS to Answer these right?

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Shosuko    2224
11 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

Honestly? All that stuff seems pretty pointless to me- it’s stuff you don’t really NEED (especially on Xbox where our worlds are smaller & the seasons can’t have RNG applied to them, so Deerclops always arrives on X day of Winter for example..)

what I would LIKE for bosses to drop are parts to a some larger Contraption- Similar to the Wooden Thing found in DS Solo.

Diving Rod,

Wooden Box Thing,

Wooden Ring Thing,

Wooden Crank Thing, 

Metal Potato Thing,

Once all of these are gathered and taken to a specific location & Built you can then progress into the next Chapter of Adventures Mode.

With DS since you were alone they could do more content focused on a single player, but what kind of public server would sit there with some players escaped into an adventure mode and everyone else is just sitting in the normal world?  It doesn't add to the game play, it just splits the people from any intereaction they might have.  Adventure mode just doesn't fit in a multiplayer sandbox world, better to simply have all content accessible up front without layers separating players from each other.

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And that’s what DST is currently missing, an Adventures Mode.. But with unanswered questions like Who is Them? Why are they Returning? Why has Charlie turned her attention towards machinations in the sky??

Surely at some point DST HAS to Answer these right?

Lore answers those questions - boss drops don't.  Deerclopse drops an eyeball, does that tell you anything about the world at large?  Nope.  It just gives you an eyeball.  You can use it to make an eyebrella or a houndous shootious, or eat it for the lolz.  Both the eyebrella and houndous shootious are simply better ways to manage things we already have tools to manage.  I see people complaining about Toadstool loot which contains a near infinite light source...  It is way better than an eyeball.

Dragonfly, Bee Queen, and Toadstool all give very good loots that help you do a lot more than you could without them.

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Mike23Ua    5586

Public servers do not exist on Xbox, but ignoring that fact altogether...

Theres also options in the menu to play Survival, Endless Or Wilderness.. 

pretty sure if they added Adventures there then the overall objective would be Adventure Mode.. right? Multiplayer game or not.

People want a REASON as to why they should engage totally optional bosses that drop as they claim disappointing loot- Pretty sure Contraption parts that block progress would make those optional bosses no longer optional if you wish to beat Adventures Mode.

least.. that’s my two cents on it anyway :) 

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Psychomaniac    131

Yeah, STOP making new char, add my Wilbur first then Klei can do what ever you want.

P/s: Klei should port all char, because everybody have their Fav that not yet port (no need to be free, they sure gonna buy their Fav), have a team that focus on making skin, who doesn't like bad-ass skin for their fav char, easy money.

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Shosuko    2224
19 minutes ago, Psychomaniac said:

Yeah, STOP making new char, add my Wilbur first then Klei can do what ever you want.

P/s: Klei should port all char, because everybody have their Fav that not yet port (no need to be free, they sure gonna buy their Fav), have a team that focus on making skin, who doesn't like bad-ass skin for their fav char, easy money.

I think it would be cool to port pretty much every character.  Even Woodlegs could find his place in DST now hehe

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Mattyington    797
22 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

DC Universe Online? 

Online games like DC Universe Online or, say, Star Trek Online aren't canon, or are at least isolated from the main story (Most of the time.) Character creators exist in them so that you don't have 400 batmans walking around, and the Custom character also generally has an isolated story, unless they're a self-insert, in which case they aren't canon because it would be really hard to add them (Unless they have a "canon" look, like Robin from fire emblem awakening). TL;DR,  I wouldn't say they really count. 

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Shosuko    2224
24 minutes ago, Deprecious said:

Don't try to say anything negative about Klei around here, this community is full of convinced white knights that are gonna bash you hard for it,. trust me, there is no way they will ever agree that Klei ever did something poorly.. 

Someone didn't see Wendy's first rework release XD

But then... they did come back with her 2nd rework option and we all win b/c Klei is awesome k ? ^_^

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Sinister_Fang    9262
3 minutes ago, Deprecious said:

be a little more objective, take a closer look at the last two updates, A New Reign and Return of Them, and tell me, which had better quality content, and which was more aggressively monetized.. in my opinion the later has been monetized more aggressively

How exactly is RoT being aggressively monetized? It's completely free.

6 minutes ago, Deprecious said:

provided worse quality content..i'm not even gonna mention how the last DLC is still a beta build..

Could you explain a bit more on how the quality of RoT is lower then ANR? There's been a slight shift in art style, but other then that, it seems to be about the same to me. ANR was also rolled out in small chunks in betas much like how RoT is now.

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LordNiggle    37
On 5/8/2020 at 10:13 PM, Sinister_Fang said:

How exactly is RoT being aggressively monetized? It's completely free.

I think he might be talking about that time Klei payed a bunch of youtubers to play the game with the new characters/reworks 

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Sinister_Fang    9262
6 hours ago, LordNiggle said:

I think he might be talking about that time Klei payed a bunch of youtubers to play the game with the new characters/reworks 

That's just normal marketing, not aggressive monetization. Aggressive monetization would be more akin to making the game unenjoyable for free/entry level players unless you pay additional money. You can look at EA's library for way too many examples of this.

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Mike23Ua    5586

The facts are this- People who stopped playing DST and started playing other games completely unrelated to DS or Klei.. because the game had not changed any at all since it’s release-

THOSE People (Myself Included) as well as New ones (a few friends I’ve convinced to buy the game..) Are playing the game MORE.

And Why are we doing that?? Well you can strike Both the Gorge Event and the Forge Event completely out of the Record books- As an Xbox One player I have every right to say those Events never happened at all for us.

AHEM.. therefore- The only Significant chunks of New content the game has had since its 2017 Release is the brand NEW stuff they’re doing with the DST Exclusive Characters, The Character Reworks, And Return of Them Updates 1 through 4.

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the TL:DR- The stuff Klei is doing is drawing back in players who moved on to play other games, as well as bringing in completely fresh new people who are joining the franchise for the first time.
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Nintendo Switch and Mobile Smartphones STILL do not have DST- So therefore- When or IF they ever get the game.... it’s release date will be marked as 2020 or possibly further than that.

And with Klei hinting all the time about wanting DST to be Cross-Platform playable.. I would say that future could be closer than any of us who don’t work with them at their studio even realize. ;) 

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Shosuko    2224
1 hour ago, Deprecious said:

What i meant by more aggressive marketing was releasing more paid content and neglecting the quality of work done on the other "free" content.. i just choose my words poorly..

Yes, i know they added a lot of content, but i would rather have less content of higher quality than a lot of content with poor quality.. matter of fact, i'd rather have no new content at all than poor quality content, many great games were taken to the grave by adding a lot of new content..

idk - the skin bundle came with a highly demanded skin-relevant feature - the clean sweeper.  So it makes sense to actually push a good skin package with this new feature.  The skin pack also included skins for 2 often used items which previously couldn't have skins, the tam and the krampus sack.  Its hard to call it aggressive monetization when we got a feature this high in demand and the skin bundle is relevant to it...

Also the entire hermit crab thing is a lot of new things you can do - if you like water.  If you don't, then this update wasn't "bad," it just wasn't "for you."  I've had a lot of fun sailing since this update and really just wish it didn't take so much to get ocean bound...

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