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Walani, and why she's perfect for Return of Them

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Mike23Ua    4287

I say let her craft Surfboards that she can give to other players to use, but let them degrade over use so she isn’t a One and then Done character.

Why WOULDNT they degrade over use? Wurt Masks Do.. and those actually prevent people from being horribly murdered in a couple of seconds when Wurts friends realize her “Other Friends” Don’t have Scales.

Wigfrid Spears and Helms Degrade as Well.

Meanwhile Walani Herself should have a special non-degrading board as part of her Kit like Woodies Lucy Axe, The Codex Umbra, Abigails Flower Etc. (please let this look distinctively different from the boards she crafts for others by maybe perhaps looking more Professional and with the trade mark Shark Bite in it?)

Walani should also be able to “Plant” her surfboard into the ground and rest propped against it (Chill Surfer Gal) I have absolutely no idea what this would do in terms of Stats and effects- so I’ll just leave that entirely up to Klei to decide.

As I had mentioned before in another Walani thread- What can Walani Surfboards Do that the current Boat Cookies can not? Easier maneuverability, can fit into tiny streams Boat Cookies won’t fit into, and.. you won’t have to build a fully functional ship to pick a few Kelp that’s near the shore.

But don’t look at Surfboards as an answer to everything (Except For Walani of course haha.) Because they will degrade over use.. and you will Wipe Out.

TL:DR Walani’s special perk has always been a Surfboard, I don’t expect that to change much.

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ButterStuffed    1772

Walani in DST would be pretty nice. Obviously though like you said she would have to be completely reworked.

What if we worked off of Walani's inherent apathy towards things. Basically beefing up her original 10% reduced sanity multiplier for everything and making it actually substantial. Something along the lines of a much higher resistance towards all sanity effects when some threshold is met. Maybe it could be based off of how hungry Walani is or maybe even have it so that this resistance only occurs when her sanity is above say 75%. This would enable her to more effectively use insanity inducing items but only if given a little preparation. Walani could get like a 60% resistance to sanity reduction in exchange for some of her hunger or something like that.

They would have to make more items that are actually useful but consume sanity type of items though to make it actually a really useful ability.

Also the ability to more freely travel through the water with her surfboard would be pretty sweet. I can't see how it would be all that overpowered since there isn't much going on in the ocean at the moment.

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Canis    11968
10 minutes ago, Sunset Skye said:

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What's this? Something we agree on? Blasphemy.

I never thought of the surfboard taking the hand slot, primarily because I envisioned Walani being an "errand girl" and going and using a pickaxe to get salt and stuff.

I am enticed by sick flips, though.

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I want her able to use tools in while surfing, jump into a boat . ( so you can literally also craft and place instantly boats around you. It would be easier to find specific locations as her to setup that. )

Be able to fight obviously in the sea while surfing. 

I like the tent upgrade Canis , thats really interesting.

A bonus-penalty trait in the sea. Something like.. less hunger drain in the sea, but gets high on ground. You know, when you get in the mood to surf, you literally forget about everything else. ( it doesnt have to be specifically this, but something similar to encourage living in the sea , not something that literally screams this is your only option. Just something that says, here is better )

Hmmm... sharing or being able to carry one in the surf boat its really nice suggestion aswell. But i would like that they also can atleast hold an item, like for example a lantern, or being able to mine too. So it would make this feature friendly and interesting if a duo wants to go with her. They should be able to jump to the boat too.  One part insides me says they should also be able to use tools heh.. it would be more fun and interesting as a feature. Imagine mining in the dark while your friend holds the lantern (ofc you can just.. miner hat, but its a duo and flexibility is always welcome )

I would like, an item that can be used as a marker in the sea. But idk if it should be a crafting that she can make .

Like sea buoys , like different tiers, just to make hey this path, or a higher tier that has a tiny ilumination radious. ( is that out of character?.. )

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ArubaroBeefalo    1635

I dont see the point of wetness resistance and surf in this game. If they release her will need a huge rework of her perks. When you have discover the hot spots of the sea, walani will be almost useless (even in SW her perks are so weak)

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Psychomaniac    113

Nah, Wilbur is better.... you know because Reasons.

P/s: Just kidding, your Walani as you said sure perfect, but i only love Wilbur :D, and you know people usually say: "love is blind".

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Mike23Ua    4287

People Say “Only Walani should be able to use Surfboards” But How does this help her at all with new TEAM perks?

AND What If Klei Adds other peoples Ideas to the game too like @FuffledBeeQueen Elevated Plots of Land (Which we all know they’re Closely watching)

So Imagine Two walls of Canyons with a River Small enough that large Boats won’t fit into the center of. Walani needs to be able to share Surfboards for that reason alone.

Let her craft them for others, but for Non-Walani’s they have a Durability Meter and can’t be used to surf all the way out to the Lunar Island.. because they wouldn’t last that long, Surfboards main use for everyone who is NOT Walani would be for picking up little things on short trips, such as kelp close to shore or you can hop off the boat and use them as a means of quick escape should your boat meet an untimely demise.

Characters who are NOT Walani do not have EXPERT Surfer Skills so they would have a harder time not wiping out? (Which is why they would have the Durability Meter in the first place..) Non-Walani Characters will start to Lose balance & Wipe out into the water.

I Disagree with the board taking the HAND SLOT though, because How would you hold a Torch or Lantern through the night?

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A BETTER Idea is just like in Reality.. a Surfboard would only be able to carry so much WEIGHT, so maybe be a BACKPACK SLOT and used for short trips to gather very limited amounts of Resources?

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ArubaroBeefalo    1635
1 hour ago, Psychomaniac said:

Nah, Wilbur is better.... you know because Reasons.

P/s: Just kidding, your Walani as you said sure perfect, but i only love Wilbur :D, and you know people usually say: "love is blind".

actually wilbur could be op if splumonkeys dont atack him xD

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11 hours ago, Canis said:

explore (and focus on) RoT content

I would like Walani for DST, but I think that the ocean needs more resources for Walani's surfboard based perks to really be effective. If they continue to add resources to the ocean that surpass the stuff we find such as stone fruit bushes, salt, and surf and turf. Then Walani's perks would be worth it and make her a viable character.

55 minutes ago, ShadowDuelist said:

Also there are other sea mechanics that a sea character could focus on, like easier fishing or befriending the sea life.

I like quicker sea fishing, it would give a character a support style role IMO maybe she can get fish fast enough to surpass the healing rate of jellybeans.

I just thought of a pretty interesting downside as well that probably will change the gameplay. Gimme your thoughts about it. What if Walani get better hunger restoration from sea based foods (fish, bull kelp), but less hunger restoration from land based foods. This also doesn't have to be tied to Walini as well, this might be a more interesting perk for Woodlegs than just sanity loss on land. 

 

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GenomeSquirrel    737

she's a surfer, on a surfboard, surfboards are comparable to floaties for ocean travel

why not pick the pirate guy who uses a good boat and spent days in the ocean compared to her hours slightly off shore, with no intention or capability of exploring

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3 minutes ago, Desblat said:

The thing is: Walani is not Walani w/o her board. But her board requires mechanic of single-player small boats. And that's what Klei doesn't want to port.

Porting entire big mechanic for a single character isn't likely.

They don't have to port sw boats to make this work ya know? They could use similar code from the goose and a different set of animations to allow Walani to have a surfboard without the whole boat system being ported. Just wanted to let cha know, ya know.

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ShadowDuelist    5137

Also a naval type of character would get more interesting if they add lakes or smaller oceans with new and different threats in the caves. Otherwise any water related perks would not have any meaning in the underworld.

The only 2 "water related" characters at this point, Wurt and Woodie, have many other advantages at the caves, not making you miss water down there.

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Desblat    640
2 hours ago, WoodieMain45684 said:

They don't have to port sw boats to make this work ya know? They could use similar code from the goose and a different set of animations to allow Walani to have a surfboard without the whole boat system being ported. Just wanted to let cha know, ya know.

Your point doesn't contradict mine. Making surfboard basing it off goose is exactly as hard as porting entire boat system from SW, the thing is - small boats/surfs are a big mechanic that changes enteraction with water.

Walani launches surfboard:

Can she hold items in hands? - No? How does she stay in ocean in night? No way? = Very odd design. I don't believe klei would go in that direction.

Yes? Walani equips weapons and tools = SW mechanics port.

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