Primalflower Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Wurt is circular in creation. What I mean by that is wurt is supposed to be an adolescent merm guard. But the problem with that is, merm guards don't exist without a king to protect. But Merm Kings don't exist without a wurt to conceptualize them by being told of (or reading of) kings and stuff in books that lead to her building a tapestry. im so sorry skye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenomeSquirrel Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 minute ago, lbphero said: But the problem with that is, merm guards don't exist without a king to protect. This is a false premise, provably wrong because merm guards continue existing after a merm king dies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primalflower Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, GenomeSquirrel said: This is a false premise, provably wrong because merm guards continue existing after a merm king dies but do they exist before wurt does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Tarunio Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 minute ago, lbphero said: but do they exist before wurt does do they need to exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primalflower Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 1 minute ago, jantonio said: do they need to exist? for wurt to exist, yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenomeSquirrel Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 18 minutes ago, lbphero said: but do they exist before wurt does They existed but weren’t refined into guards, in the same way students are refined into doctors, lawyers, police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primalflower Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 Just now, GenomeSquirrel said: They existed but weren’t refined into guards, in the same way students are refined into doctors, lawyers, police. did wurt glue on the horns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenomeSquirrel Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 12 minutes ago, lbphero said: did wurt glue on the horns Possible, her skins don’t have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primalflower Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 Just now, GenomeSquirrel said: Possible, her skins don’t have them. fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charesque Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 So basically what you're saying is merms with horns don't exist and Wurt should have been a goat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maradyne Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Charesque said: So basically what you're saying is merms with horns don't exist and Wurt should have been a goat. There was that one quote by Wortox about the 'nextcharacter' being a goat. Kinda seems like she was changed mid-development from a goat or partial goat turning merm to what she is now. I like current Wurt of course, but I can't help but wonder about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charesque Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, maradyne said: There was that one quote by Wortox about the 'nextcharacter' being a goat. That is the main reason why i thought Wurt was going to be a goat - and then turns out horned merms (which are not mermified goats for some reason) exist. Why are there even merms with horns? It's not like they're associated in any way with goat people from Gorge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primalflower Posted November 1, 2019 Author Share Posted November 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Charesque said: So basically what you're saying is merms with horns don't exist and Wurt should have been a goat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brago-sama Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 3 hours ago, maradyne said: There was that one quote by Wortox about the 'nextcharacter' being a goat. Kinda seems like she was changed mid-development from a goat or partial goat turning merm to what she is now. I like current Wurt of course, but I can't help but wonder about that. New theory: Klei changes characters/updates every time the community starts getting close to the truth so that we're never right Edit: alternatively klei could also be releasing info to throw us off like with the essential wurt reveal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezaroth Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Chicken comes from eggs, but to make eggs you need chickens. Therefore chicken is a paradox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobbstar Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 The chicken paradox can be solved by inventing a "proto-chicken" that happened due to undisclosed external circumstances. If we apply that approach to this situation, then Wurt is the original merm guard, all other merm guards are created by her with the help of the merm king. Implying ew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primalflower Posted November 1, 2019 Author Share Posted November 1, 2019 43 minutes ago, Mobbstar said: The chicken paradox can be solved by inventing a "proto-chicken" that happened due to undisclosed external circumstances. If we apply that approach to this situation, then Wurt is the original merm guard, all other merm guards are created by her with the help of the merm king. Implying ew is wurt god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theukon-dos Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Merm guards exist before a royal tapestry is built, they just don't come out because they need a king to protect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreadScientist Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Theukon-dos said: Merm guards exist before a royal tapestry is built, they just don't come out because they need a king to protect. Ah, but do they exist before Wurt builds them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxposting Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 4 hours ago, Ezaroth said: Chicken comes from eggs, but to make eggs you need chickens. Therefore chicken is a paradox. obviously there had been some evolutionary thing where a chicken 0.9 laid an actual chicken 1.0 egg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenomeSquirrel Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 22 minutes ago, BreadScientist said: Ah, but do they exist before Wurt builds them? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Interestingly enough.. all of Klei’s frog-like creatures in their games have horns on their heads, the toad, Merms, even the things in their other games have them. Perhaps it’s a silly attempt to avoid potential lawsuits from Kermit the frog? -shrugs- who knows.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouKnowWho Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 I think the Merm Guards did exist, they just fell into a deep depression with the fall of the Merm empire. Wurt's just trying to bring it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDuelist Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Wurt has made so far for the Merm empire a lot more than the king itself: She sets the scene for a king to be elected She builds houses with her own claws for the merms peasants and also for the elite refined merm guards. She probably even trains them herself. She commands the armies into battle, conquering new territories and defeating everything in their way, further expanding her turf and increasing their numbers The king is a mere puppet to boost the merm's morale, so they fight better for her. Heck, if she doesn't like him enough, she let shim starve to death. Wurt is the true empress behind the new merm order that will take over the constant. We've released a force of nature here, if she ever grows up, we're basically raising a green scaly Gengis Khan. What have you done people?! its all your fault! Can't you see that behind that cute little face, lies a terrible curse upon these lands! I.. I..fine.. I'll go home now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormalPinkerton Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Gameplay and lore are completly separate things because it's pretty much impossible to include all lore in gameplay and make it engaging. Also the merm guards could have been inside the rundown houses and just have never come out because they didn't have a purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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