Szczuku

How do you think Klei will portray Them?

What will They be presented as?  

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  1. 1. What will They be presented as?

    • Simply as bad guys- All they want is to cause pain and destroy
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    • As eldritch gods- They (and other gods) have created the Constant and are simply angry that you're changing it
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    • Beings corrupted by shadow magic- ancient mages that tried to become gods
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Terra_Zina    5,080

Or give us some vague hints for a longer period of time leading to something great. Frick me do I love me some hints.

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minespatch    62,021

Another theory is THEM is the throne. It's why Pugna is focused on it but the throne can never be destroyed, only toppled for a moment.

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Lammarr    1,293
3 minutes ago, Szczuku said:

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As far as we know only Crawling Horrors And Terrorbeaks are Ancients. The rest of shadow creatures are probably Them/Servants of Them

But the Ancient Fuelweaver controls these in his insanity stun-lock attack,no?

 

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reverentsatyr    2,477

Whenever I think of Them, I imagine that they're the biggest and most ancient nightmare creatures, who are the puppet masters of just about everything evil in the constant. I don't think they've shown their full power yet, and that they see the Constant and it's inhabitants as simple playthings. I'm still a little confused with their relation to the moon, though. I know they link together somehow.

Whatever lore they have, I still desperately want Them to be a boss fight.

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Zeklo    17,456
8 minutes ago, Averagewx78main said:

In the lore Shadow creatures are referred to as "them"

Le sigh.

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Seero    788
Just now, Zeklo said:

Le sigh.

Atleast I'm sure they are? I remember watching your video on DS lore and you explained the correlation between "them" and "terrorbeaks"

I think it was a letter maxwell had written and described his first encounter with a terrorbeak, right?

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Zeklo    17,456
1 minute ago, Averagewx78main said:

Atleast I'm sure they are? I remember watching your video on DS lore and you explained the correlation between "them" and "terrorbeaks"

I think it was a letter maxwell had written and described his first encounter with a terrorbeak, right?

There's no confirmation, so this is of course just speculation. The best way I can put it is this:

"They are coming. It cannot be stopped." And "Return of Them"

In other words, "They" are not here yet, while shadow creatures are. My videos (tried) to outline how the Ancients are the Shadow Creatures and how Shadow Creatures are a product of Them but not Them itself.

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Seero    788
Just now, Zeklo said:

There's no confirmation, so this is of course just speculation. The best way I can put it is this:

"They are coming. It cannot be stopped." And "Return of Them"

In other words, "They" are not here yet, while shadow creatures are. My videos (tried) to outline how the Ancients are the Shadow Creatures and how Shadow Creatures are a product of Them but not Them itself.

So "Them" are a new antagonist in the lore, relating to the whole return of them theme. Got it. So since shadow creatures are a product, these "Them" things must be shadow related or maybe charlie herself? I know charlie must have played a part in the rise of these new lunar islands.

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Zeklo    17,456
1 minute ago, Averagewx78main said:

So "Them" are a new antagonist in the lore, relating to the whole return of them theme. Got it. So since shadow creatures are a product, these "Them" things must be shadow related or maybe charlie herself? I know charlie must have played a part in the rise of these new lunar islands.

Potentially, again mostly speculation, but there's some decent backing to it.

Charlie isn't Them though, as confirmed by the Fuelweaver on death: "Who are you? Release me, shade! You are not Them..."

"They" are essentially a "god-like" being—something I would equate to the "Moon" (which falls into a similar category). A celestial body turned out to in fact being a living entity—in comparison to a human it's power and influence is unfathomable.

I presume "They" are represented by an eye (as shown earlier) for a number of reasons, but especially because:

The Fuelweaver mentions "Their" return—while guarding the gateway, the way the ancient murals played out, and most importantly how the initial teaser for Return of Them was a leaking gateway.

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sinisterrkid    506

Just eyes. Eyes everywhere. So many eyes you can't get enough. www.eyes.com/eyes-for-everyone, come get your eyes. It's eyes 24/7 baby, you can't miss it

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minespatch    62,021
1 minute ago, Lammarr said:

I want Them in a epic basketball match against the survivors,they must be very tall.

Klei, can we have Bill Murray as a survivor?:wilson_sneaky:

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Squidlicious    454
3 hours ago, Lammarr said:

I want Them in a epic basketball match against the survivors,they must be very tall.

 

Ya know speaking of that, what's the reason why some people in the, lets just say "Humanity/Normal World" where the human survivors came from, are tall while some are short? Is height some sort of status in the normal world?

Like it's pretty clear that Maxwell is a tall guy, along with Charlie, but when we see other humans such as Winona and her coworkers being similar height, or Willow compared to her old caretakers at the orphanage. Is being tall looked at as being better or higher power? 

I could be just overthinking it and it can be a design reason why characters are tall and some are short. I've just got Invader zim on my head thanks to Crystal Kourosh! 

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