Keith Smithee Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Please be aware that I am translating from Japanese. 日本語から翻訳しています。 Split steam turbine system delete the steam. 分割型蒸気タービンが蒸気を削除する現象が確認できました。 Perhaps after Banhi's Automation Innovation Pack update, the way the drains are installed seems to delete steam. Observe the condition after loading the save data. おそらくBanhi's Automation Innovation Packアップデート以降、排水口の設置方法により蒸気が削除されるようです。 セーブデータをロードしたあと状態を観察してみてください。 As it goes on, almost "20kg/tile" and "30kg/tile" of steam in each room will almost disappear. 稼働していくとそれぞれの部屋に約20kg/tileと約30kg/tileあった蒸気がほとんど消失します。 I don't know the exact reason, but it gives the impression that steam turbine return water is discharged to hot "non-water liquid". Until now, it was immersed in a liquid other than water to ensure drainage, but another approach may be needed. (If this is not a bug and is not fixed!) 詳しい理由はわかりませんが蒸気タービンの戻り水を高温の"水以外の液体"上に排出すると発生するような印象を受けます。 今までは確実に排水するため水以外の液体に浸していましたが、別のアプローチが必要なのかもしれません。 (これがバグでなく修正されなければ) see : bug tracker my post. https://forums.kleientertainment.com/klei-bug-tracker/oni/turbine-drainage-is-deleted-r24153/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMule Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 That's no bug. Vents now are automated. Old designs need to be modified accordinly. In the past you could run automation wires behind liquid and gas vents (and reservoirs...) since the Automation update you have to be careful. Just move the automation wire that's behind the right vent away from it. Well. You don't need shutoffs now, so you might want to redesing the automation a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Smithee Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Please be aware that I am translating from Japanese. 日本語から翻訳しています。 1 hour ago, TheMule said: That's no bug. Vents now are automated. Old designs need to be modified accordinly. In the past you could run automation wires behind liquid and gas vents (and reservoirs...) since the Automation update you have to be careful. Just move the automation wire that's behind the right vent away from it. Well. You don't need shutoffs now, so you might want to redesing the automation a bit. >That's no bug. >In the past you could run automation wires behind liquid and gas vents (and reservoirs...) since the Automation update you have to be careful. With this update, the liquid shutoff is no longer needed, so the piping has been reworked that way. 今回のアップデートにより液体遮断器が不要になったのでそのように配管は作り変えています。 Please play the saved data that I attached. (Steam global achievements will not be canceled just in case.) In my environment, no matter how many attempts I made, the steam on the right side disappeared in almost 1 cycle. 私がアップロードしたセーブデータを再生してみてください。 (念の為にsteam実績は解除されないようにしています。) 私の環境では何度試してもほぼ1サイクルで右側の部屋から蒸気が消失しています。 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMule Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 13 minutes ago, Keith Smithee said: Please be aware that I am translating from Japanese. 日本語から翻訳しています。 >That's no bug. >In the past you could run automation wires behind liquid and gas vents (and reservoirs...) since the Automation update you have to be careful. With this update, the liquid shutoff is no longer needed, so the piping has been reworked that way. 今回のアップデートにより液体遮断器が不要になったのでそのように配管は作り変えています。 Please play the saved data that I attached. (Steam global achievements will not be canceled just in case.) In my environment, no matter how many attempts I made, the steam on the right side disappeared in almost 1 cycle. 私がアップロードしたセーブデータを再生してみてください。 (念の為にsteam実績は解除されないようにしています。) 私の環境では何度試してもほぼ1サイクルで右側の部屋から蒸気が消失しています。 Then I apologize. I couldn't try your savefile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMule Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Keith Smithee said: Please be aware that I am translating from Japanese. 日本語から翻訳しています。 >That's no bug. >In the past you could run automation wires behind liquid and gas vents (and reservoirs...) since the Automation update you have to be careful. With this update, the liquid shutoff is no longer needed, so the piping has been reworked that way. 今回のアップデートにより液体遮断器が不要になったのでそのように配管は作り変えています。 Please play the saved data that I attached. (Steam global achievements will not be canceled just in case.) In my environment, no matter how many attempts I made, the steam on the right side disappeared in almost 1 cycle. 私がアップロードしたセーブデータを再生してみてください。 (念の為にsteam実績は解除されないようにしています。) 私の環境では何度試してもほぼ1サイクルで右側の部屋から蒸気が消失しています。 Then I apologize. I couldn't try your savefile. Edit: I finally managed to try it. Cycle 1737 everything seems fine: https://imgur.com/a/yl4K1gt What does happen is that sometimes a tile of water appears where the right vent is. Something like 100Kg water or more at 102C degree. When that happens, steam pressure can be very low, I've seen 2500g. But when the poxygen vent erupts again, that water is turned into steam, and there's usually 20kg / 30kg or 24kg/26 kg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Smithee Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 22 hours ago, TheMule said: Then I apologize. I couldn't try your savefile. Edit: I finally managed to try it. Cycle 1737 everything seems fine: https://imgur.com/a/yl4K1gt What does happen is that sometimes a tile of water appears where the right vent is. Something like 100Kg water or more at 102C degree. When that happens, steam pressure can be very low, I've seen 2500g. But when the poxygen vent erupts again, that water is turned into steam, and there's usually 20kg / 30kg or 24kg/26 kg. This is a translation from Japanese, so please forgive me for any minor mistakes. 日本語からの翻訳なので、細かいミスは許してください。 First of all, thank you for confirming the save data. In my environment, it always occurs after loading, so I made a video and attached it to the bugtracker. まず最初にセーブデータの確認ありがとうございます。 自分の環境ではロード後に必ず発生するため動画にして掲示板に添付しました。 https://forums.kleientertainment.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=262045 Once the vent on the right side is closed, the steam chamber sensor on the left side from then on somehow does not become 20kg, resulting in the loss of steam. 一度右側の排出口が閉じると、それ以降左側の蒸気室センサーが何故か20kgにならず、結果的に蒸気が消失します。 The difference in the environment will be a concern, but it may be that your PC spec is probably low because of the different FPS. 環境の違いで気になる事となりますが、FPSが違うので自分のPC性能がおそらく低い事も考えられるかもしれません。 This is a rough spec. OS Windows 10 Pro CPU Core i3-4170 RAM 8GB GPU Radeon RX 470 1280x720 window mode Chrome is always running. I'm currently playing in this state. 現在はこの状態でプレイしています。 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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