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dst100    4

I hate ppl who did shady things and still trying to act innocent to the public. I like the fact that demon can provide concrete clues to prove who is the true liar. This is not the first time I have heard “stories” about him. I would be no surprised about this time too

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Biscuitbite    21
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57 minutes ago, dst100 said:

This is not the first time I have heard “stories” about him. I would be no surprised about this time too

That makes me curious, could you provide a link to the stories you read about him? I hope he isn't that bad, i just want to read them out of curiosity.

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JackJohnsn    139
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And how does any of that prove that I had anything to do with it? :D

Trying so hard to prove it but you still can't. I can post a hundred screenshots all modified and reflecting the wrong information. As if it's too hard to alter a static day counter on top of screen. Who said you can't hammer chests place rod and then rebuild them? You even have a hammer equipped and more than 30 logs.

Just noticed that people upvoting your post are mostly from your friend list ( if not all ).

We all are eager to learn how can you set someone else's boat on fire from 2 screens away by lightning when you also have a lightning rod. Please enlighten us.

If you think it's a bug, you should have raised a bug alert at first place, and posted a thread on bug tracker.

Chat log also confirms everything I said. e.g. I was far from your boat. Even if I "was" nearby, then I never touched your boat.

The worst part is, I used to like you a lot, until you got mixed up with the wrong people and became one of them, which its results we can see here.

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JackJohnsn    139
2 minutes ago, GetNerfedOn said:

i dont even know either of you and this is getting entertaining all the same

And here's the funny part: I wasn't even looking for an argument ( you can see I didn't mention any name ). I just found it funny, posted it, and bunch of readers got a laugh out of it. But someone got an ego to protect, that requires a wall of shame to be built and an formal investigation to go on :D

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Canis    9,066

You're both in the wrong.

Accusing someone of hacking because of something unorthodox is dumb.

Accusing someone of being a lying crybaby - even after they prove that they're not lying - is dumb.

 

Im leaning towards OP's side of the argument here mainly because @JackJohnsn is giving off a pseudo-toxic personality in this chat, and the fact that they're taking uncalled for personal jabs.

6 hours ago, JackJohnsn said:

The worst part is, I used to like you a lot, until you got mixed up with the wrong people and became one of them, which its results we can see here.

 

Still a big mystery to me how the boat caught fire. Of course, this evidence might be edited for all we know. Innocent until proven guilty.

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JackJohnsn    139
1 minute ago, Canis said:

You're both in the wrong.

Call me toxic while your "this evidence might be edited for all we know" contradicts your earlier "Accusing someone of being a lying crybaby - even after they prove that they're not lying".

I rather be toxic to someone who makes wall of shame rather than anonymously just tell their story.

PS: If you wanna know what toxic looks like, play some Overwatch.

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Canis    9,066
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6 minutes ago, JackJohnsn said:

Call me toxic while your "this evidence might be edited for all we know" contradicts your earlier "Accusing someone of being a lying crybaby - even after they prove that they're not lying".

I rather be toxic to someone who makes wall of shame rather than anonymously just tell their story.

PS: If you wanna know what toxic looks like, play some Overwatch.

They gave evidence, you gave a text story. While yes, when you made your initial post you had no intention of making drama, well, now it is.

Also, have you ever played Brawlhalla?

Edit: I'll give you the fact that you left their name out of it at first, but I don't blame them for recognizing the story and shed more light on it.

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JackJohnsn    139
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6 minutes ago, Canis said:

They gave evidence, you gave a text story. While yes, when you made your initial post you had no intention of making drama, well, now it is.

Also, have you ever played Brawlhalla?

What evidence? A series of screenshots which I can make the exact opposite of it right now? Either:

  1. Have a screenshot of me griefing ( still can be faked )
  2. Have a video of the occurrence ( still can be faked, but harder )
  3. Have access to server log and trace the records there to see what happened

Until then, if someone can't explain how their boat caught on fire "if" they had a lightning rod on it, they shouldn't be complaining. As far as I can see even the OP mentioned that I didn't touch that boat.

It's not a drama, I'm waiting for OP to answer him one more time for old time's sake, then ignore this thread like any other thread that leads to nothing. They can feel free to post forever.

No I haven't played Brawlhalla but the level of toxicity in Overwatch went so high that the legal department of Riot Games had to interfere ( that's what I read on rockpapershotgun )

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Canis    9,066
1 minute ago, JackJohnsn said:

What evidence? A series of screenshots which I can make the exact opposite of it right now? Either:

  1. Have a screenshot of me griefing ( still can be faked )
  2. Have a video of the occurrence ( still can be faked, but harder )
  3. Have access to server log and trace the records there to see what happened

Until then, if someone can't explain how their boat caught on fire "if" they had a lightning rod on it, they shouldn't be complaining.

No I haven't played Brawlhalla but the level of toxicity in Overwatch went so high that the legal department of Riot Games had to interfere ( that's what I read on rockpapershotgun )

Im saying that OP gave *something* that supports his side while you haven't. I'm being unbiased here because frankly I don't know either of you, I just like drama.

Im not accusing you of being the griefer here, Im saying that, from the looks of it, you had the more toxic behavior out of both of you. 

As for the lightning mystery, @Demonblink, throw that in the bug tracker as that sounds like a bug. Note if you were using the Salty Dog beta branch or the live branch.

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JackJohnsn    139
2 minutes ago, Canis said:

Im saying that OP gave *something* that supports his side while you haven't. I'm being unbiased here because frankly I don't know either of you, I just like drama.

So you like drama? Sorry, can't help with that. I didn't post any evidence since I wasn't looking for it or caring to prove. The chat log that OP posted it enough for me.

3 minutes ago, Canis said:

Im not accusing you of being the griefer here, Im saying that, from the looks of it, you had the more toxic behavior out of both of you.

Ya maybe because OP only posted once while I posted a dozen.

3 minutes ago, Canis said:

As for the lightning mystery, @Demonblink, throw that in the bug tracker as that sounds like a bug. Note if you were using the Salty Dog beta branch or the live branch.

And that's what I said RIGHT after it happened. It's mentioned that it happened on Klei server ( spooders and such ), so no beta.

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Canis    9,066
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10 minutes ago, JackJohnsn said:

Ya maybe because OP only posted once while I posted a dozen.

Im talking about the chat log.

Your posts are bolded, OP's posts are underlined.

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[04:22:35]: [Join Announcement] edanogame
[04:22:53]: [Say] (KU_vaebMrhq) edanogame: hi

[04:22:56]: [Say] (KU_n4gDzUgA) JackE: charge me senpai!
[04:23:03]: [Say] (KU_n4gDzUgA) JackE: yo man

[04:23:38]: [Say] (KU_hlyjkB0L) Demonblink: can we rollback please?
[04:23:40]: [Say] (KU_ewRZxB4F) soma: any pig skins?
[04:23:52]: [Say] (KU_ewRZxB4F) soma: what happen

[04:23:58]: [Say] (KU_hlyjkB0L) Demonblink: my ship has burned
[04:24:08]: [Say] (KU_axSdrRE3) Captain Hotdog:  (Health: 76/150) I'm bleeding...
[04:24:11]: [Join Announcement] DangerousDan
[04:24:19]: [Say] (KU_axSdrRE3) Captain Hotdog: spring is a load of ****
[04:24:44]: [Say] (KU_hlyjkB0L) Demonblink: when JackE was near :D
[04:24:52]: [Say] (KU_n4gDzUgA) JackE: definitely my fault
[04:24:58]: [Say] (KU_n4gDzUgA) JackE: that ligthning hit it

[04:25:13]: [Say] (KU_hlyjkB0L) Demonblink: I had a Lightning Rod
[04:25:23]: [Say] (KU_n4gDzUgA) JackE: no you didnt
[04:25:31]: [Say] (KU_hlyjkB0L) Demonblink:  We need more lightning rod.
[04:25:36]: [Say] (KU_hlyjkB0L) Demonblink: yup, I had

[04:25:49]: [Say] (KU_n4gDzUgA) JackE: probably invisible to naked eyes then
[04:26:07]: [Vote Announcement] rollback passed
[04:26:10]: [Say] (KU_axSdrRE3) Captain Hotdog:  (Health: 0/150) Guess this is the end, old friend...

[04:26:53]: [Say] (KU_hlyjkB0L) Demonblink: yup, I do have it
[04:26:57]: [Say] (KU_hlyjkB0L) Demonblink: thank you, btw
[04:27:04]: [Say] (KU_hlyjkB0L) Demonblink: for rollback

[04:27:20]: [Whisper] (KU_n4gDzUgA) JackE: liar liar pants on fire
[04:27:28]: [Say] (KU_9ZDxI6Em) nickxy: griefing in 2019 lol
[04:27:29]: [Whisper] (KU_n4gDzUgA) JackE: come let's make an umbrella
[04:28:03]: [Say] (KU_hlyjkB0L) Demonblink: btw, JackE, why so much hate?
[04:28:10]: [Say] (KU_hlyjkB0L) Demonblink: did I do something wrong?

[04:28:11]: [Say] (KU_n4gDzUgA) JackE: can't tolerate lies sry
[04:28:28]: [Say] (KU_axSdrRE3) Captain Hotdog:  I have a butter with 100% freshness.
[04:28:29]: [Say] (KU_n4gDzUgA) JackE: im passing by 10 miles away and lightning hits u without rod, catches on fire
[04:28:31]: [Say] (KU_n4gDzUgA) JackE: then it's my fault

[04:28:57]: [Say] (KU_hlyjkB0L) Demonblink: yeah
[04:29:01]: [Say] (KU_hlyjkB0L) Demonblink: sure

[04:29:10]: [Whisper] (KU_axSdrRE3) Captain Hotdog: woodman chop the big trees ya dingus
[04:29:13]: [Say] (KU_n4gDzUgA) JackE: explain to us how it caught on fire then?
[04:29:56]: [Say] (KU_hlyjkB0L) Demonblink: sorry, I don't want to say this globally
[04:30:01]: [Leave Announcement] DangerousDan
[04:30:05]: [Say] (KU_n4gDzUgA) JackE: say it to my face
[04:30:15]: [Join Announcement] Nix
[04:30:23]: [Leave Announcement] Nix

[04:30:28]: [Say] (KU_hlyjkB0L) Demonblink: you know what I mean, you should understand how hacks work in this game
[04:30:33]: [Say] (KU_n4gDzUgA) JackE: xddd
[04:30:38]: [Say] (KU_n4gDzUgA) JackE: ok man.
[04:31:16]: [Say] (KU_n4gDzUgA) JackE: post on klei bug tracker if you think i hacked or it was a bug

[04:31:27]: [Say] (KU_hlyjkB0L) Demonblink: lol, I don't blame you
[04:31:30]: [Say] (KU_hlyjkB0L) Demonblink: first of all

[04:31:37]: [Whisper] (KU_n4gDzUgA) JackE: these ppl
[04:31:40]: [Say] (KU_hlyjkB0L) Demonblink: I only've stated that I had a rod
[04:31:47]: [Whisper] (KU_n4gDzUgA) JackE: you just wanna kill yourself
[04:32:30]: [Say] (KU_hlyjkB0L) Demonblink: and the fact that you were nearby and not "miles away"
[04:32:47]: [Say] (KU_n4gDzUgA) JackE: i had eyebrella, lightning can't hit me anyway
[04:32:55]: [Say] (KU_axSdrRE3) Captain Hotdog: it can
[04:33:00]: [Say] (KU_axSdrRE3) Captain Hotdog: you just dont take dmg

[04:33:01]: [Say] (KU_n4gDzUgA) JackE: it doesnt affect u
[04:33:14]: [Say] (KU_n4gDzUgA) JackE: and your char says that you are protected

[04:37:15]: [Say] (KU_9ZDxI6Em) nickxy: how old are you JackE?

Edit: Your laugh react isn't helping.

 

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GetNerfedOn    3,172

maybe it's because masts are taller than lightningrods and have special coding that overrides lightningrod lightning attraction once every blue moon?

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Demonblink    10
14 hours ago, JackJohnsn said:

The worst part is, I used to like you a lot, until you got mixed up with the wrong people and became one of them, which its results we can see here.

I also did like to play with you, @JackJohnsn, a lot and I still want to believe that you are a good person. As I've already mentioned in my previous reply on your topic you are a really good player who has always seemed to be friendly. Maybe you do have some little hang-ups but, after all, who doesn't?

For example, I also have a little hang-up: I'm not a very socially active person and prefer to play alone by making own bases no matter with whom do I play with. This is my play pattern which has never changed since the beginning. If people join my base why should I chase them away?

I've no clue why do you even have so much hatred towards me or impression that I've somehow changed. I've never even done something bad to anyone and the worst thing you can tell about me is that I don't disclose the main base location to the newcomer when he/she asks. I even try my best to be as respectful as possible to avoid any potential flame at any cost.

But judging a person not by his actions but by people whom he plays with from time to time is not a mature way of thinking and is simply wrong. Many of those people will confirm that I'm always a loner with a quirk of making his small bases.

7 hours ago, Canis said:

Accusing someone of hacking because of something unorthodox is dumb.

Yes, @Canis, I fully agree! This is the main reason why I didn't mention that part in the first post (except mentioning it once in the chat log). I completely understand that I don't have any evidence to prove my point. Moreover, I've intentionally avoided the word "evidence" at any cost in the first place (the only exception is the "Not My First Rodeo" part).

The reason behind I did mention the "hacks" part was because when the so-called "lightning" hit the boat, I wasn't standing near the boat, as @JackJohnsn has mentioned in his post, but on the boat. I believe this is an important detail that should be taken into consideration as the first "lightning" struck the chest on the boat exactly where I was standing. The second "lightning" struck the Sapling under my feet while I was asking for the rollback and later the third one right before the rollback. All these cases had one thing in common: the entity exactly where I was standing has caught on fire meanwhile if the lightning did hit me I would have been already dead (you can even see my health in the first screenshot right after the rollback). Furthermore, I knew that it wasn't the client/server mismatch issue when the Lightning Rod existed only on the client-side as I've already been reconnecting to the server a couple of times before the incident and the Lightning Rod was there.

This gave me the impression that someone was using the remote action calls batch that did include the equip/unequip Fire Staff calls in combination with the auto-target entity where the nearest player was standing.

But, once again, don't take my words seriously as without evidence they are useless. Even if I fully reconstruct the code that does the similar thing this won't prove anything so I just decided to avoid this topic in the first place.

The only reason why I'm describing this now is to provide at least some data to the developers if they decide to investigate this "potential bug".

7 hours ago, JackJohnsn said:

I rather be toxic to someone who makes wall of shame rather than anonymously just tell their story.

Yes, @JackJohnsn, I completely understand that posting my story not anonymously was immature from my side and I do still believe that you should always avoid such controversial topics. However, my story was intended to be a reply to yours so I simply didn't see any other option. I do apologize for that.

7 hours ago, JackJohnsn said:

Until then, if someone can't explain how their boat caught on fire "if" they had a lightning rod on it, they shouldn't be complaining. As far as I can see even the OP mentioned that I didn't touch that boat.

True, @JackJohnsn. I've never mentioned that you have griefed my boat in the chat and only have said: "when JackE was near :D". Originally, I just wanted you to confirm as you have seen the incident. Now I understand that my words choice wasn't the best and could have been interpreted as an accusation. That wasn't the brightest move from my side.

However, a little part of me is even grateful that I didn't choose a better wording because as soon you have started claiming that my boat didn't have a Lightning Rod I did start to ask myself questions and look at the details.

Maybe it was a bug and you really didn't see a Lightning Rod on your screen. Without any concrete evidence, this doesn't even matter so I just wanted to provide data that contradicts your original statement of me not having a Lightning Rod.

7 hours ago, JackJohnsn said:

Ya maybe because OP only posted once while I posted a dozen.

I do realize that I don't have enough posts or reputation on this forum. I didn't even know how the @mention feature works here until this moment. I didn't even plan to post this story, to begin with until I saw how "aggressively" you were stating that I didn't have a Lightning Rod so I've just decided to post my perspective in an attempt to prove that I did have it.

Besides, having another perspective on the same story is never a bad thing.

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Booklover    42
On 02/10/2019 at 12:22 AM, JackJohnsn said:

The worst part is, I used to like you a lot, until you got mixed up with the wrong people and became one of them, which its results we can see here.

This sentence makes me suspect that you are indeed a griefer. You basically gave yourself enough rope to suicide. What is "the results we can see here"? So Demonblink made friends with people you didn't like and now... he gets 3 lightning strikes precisely at where he stood? The aerial view mod also contradicted you. It means you have vision over Demonblink and thus can do whatever it is you do to him.

This sounds suspiciously like petty revenge. Demonblink was friends with people you didn't like and you immediately assumed that his personality was changed. You then decide to grief him with lightning strikes that oppose game mechanics. After that, he said something that, since you griefed him, made you think he was accusing you. You proceed to start belittling him and trying to lie to everyone. Like you said, it was easy to fake the evidence but it was easier to lie since no one was there. No proof. So now you decided to upload this text story onto DST Stories so "bunch of readers got a laugh out of it".

Isn't that trying to get amusement and happiness at someone's expense?

Btw, Demonblink might not have changed, but you certainly did. He said you were a nice person and complimented you. However, in the chat log and in this thread you were toxic and salty. What changed?

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maradyne    4,522

you know from everyone's posts on the matter it sounds like a Wicker read a book to charge WX and the boat was just close enough to get hit

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